BoatBanter.com

BoatBanter.com (https://www.boatbanter.com/)
-   Cruising (https://www.boatbanter.com/cruising/)
-   -   40W oil causing wear problems over 30w? (https://www.boatbanter.com/cruising/10197-40w-oil-causing-wear-problems-over-30w.html)

JAXAshby June 29th 04 03:35 AM

40W oil causing wear problems over 30w?
 
So which is easier on my engine, short period at high speed and load, or


---------long period at low load and speed ------------?


Capt. jeff




JAXAshby June 29th 04 03:42 AM

Jax
 
I was mentioned quite in passing and without any intention of pointing any
individuals -- ex-strippers or not -- that I didn't envy hookers for the
veriety of their sexual contacts because hookers only get to have sex with men
no other women want.

That was years, and years, and years, and years ago.

It seems opal holds a grudge a long time on a statement not intentionally aimed
at her.

I still don't envy hookers. They do a crummy job, their eyes closed, the
lights off, the shades pulled.

Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam June 29th 04 03:58 AM

Jax
 
On 29 Jun 2004 02:42:16 GMT, something compelled
(JAXAshby), to say:

I still don't envy hookers. They do a crummy job, their eyes closed, the
lights off, the shades pulled.


Spoken like a man with experience.

JAXAshby June 29th 04 04:01 AM

Jax
 
I don't know how a man of experience would speak. Shall we assume you do?

From: "Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam"
Date: 6/28/2004 10:58 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

On 29 Jun 2004 02:42:16 GMT, something compelled

(JAXAshby), to say:

I still don't envy hookers. They do a crummy job, their eyes closed, the
lights off, the shades pulled.


Spoken like a man with experience.









Remco Moedt June 29th 04 10:33 AM

Jax
 
On 29 Jun 2004 03:01:02 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

I don't know how a man of experience would speak.



Isn't it ironic... :-)


Cheers!
Remco




OpalCat June 29th 04 10:48 AM

Jax
 
This has nothing to do with why I "hold a grudge" against you. I don't
remember you saying anything about hookers nor do I care. I dislike
you because you trolled *for months* on the message board I posted to.
You were an ass to everyone about everything and we all hated you.
Sort of like on these boating newsgroups you post to. As for the lies
you keep spouting about me, I've addressed them he
http://tinyurl.com/3cm2g for anyone interested (doubt that's many
people, but there you have it.)

I now return you to your previously scheduled boating discussion,
already in progress.

(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
It seems opal holds a grudge a long time on a statement not intentionally aimed
at her.


^,,^ OpalCat

http://www.opalcat.com

Remco Moedt June 29th 04 11:38 AM

Jax
 
On 29 Jun 2004 02:48:28 -0700, (OpalCat) wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/3cm2g for anyone interested (doubt that's many
people, but there you have it.)


Hehe, you certainly look better than Jax!

Cheers!


Remco

PS, I made a mistake, I DID load the picture at work... :-/ Well, it
wasn't as bad when I loaded that porn site with sound :-(



JAXAshby June 29th 04 02:09 PM

Jax
 
why I "hold a grudge" against you

I dislike
you because you trolled *for months* on the message board I posted to.


seven or eight years ago, and you are STILL ****ed.

As I recall you got yourself worked up in snitty lather when I said that as a
young man I had dated two differenct centerfolds (true) and had married a woman
so beautiful the priest interupted the marriage mass to comment on it (also
true).

I stopped posting on that board when one poster sent a letter bomb to another
poster (who turned out to be 15 years old) killing the poster's friend (also 15
years old).

And seven or eight years later you STILL search the net late at night to see
where I might have posted, so you can come in scratching, justifying your
behavior with:

and we all hated you.


anybody else get killed over there? I haven't even opened those boards since
maybe '96 or '97.



Wayne.B June 29th 04 02:11 PM

Jax
 
On 29 Jun 2004 02:48:28 -0700, (OpalCat) wrote:

I now return you to your previously scheduled boating discussion,
already in progress.


==========================

Opal, where is "Bernie the Bunyip" when we need him? Can he/she be
summoned on request?


JAXAshby June 29th 04 02:14 PM

Jax
 
I don't know how a man of experience with hookers would speak.


Isn't it ironic... :-)


if you say so.



Cheers!
Remco




JAXAshby June 29th 04 02:17 PM

Jax
 
where is "Bernie the Bunyip"

bertie crashes and burns to a mental crispy critter when people ignore him.

Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam June 29th 04 02:26 PM

Jax
 
On 29 Jun 2004 13:09:30 GMT, something compelled
(JAXAshby), to say:

As I recall you got yourself worked up in snitty lather when I said that as a
young man I had dated two differenct centerfolds


Isn't that navel staple a bitch?

JAXAshby June 29th 04 02:35 PM

Jax
 
ah, steve? in real life they don't have a staple in their navel.

see, steve, you learned soemthing new today.


As I recall you got yourself worked up in snitty lather when I said that as

a
young man I had dated two differenct centerfolds


Isn't that navel staple a bitch?









Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam June 29th 04 02:36 PM

Jax
 
On 29 Jun 2004 13:09:30 GMT, something compelled
(JAXAshby), to say:

As I recall you got yourself worked up in snitty lather when I said that as a
young man I had dated two differenct centerfolds


Is that when you learned the value of "pre-lube"?

JAXAshby June 29th 04 02:44 PM

Jax
 
stubby daniels tries out a new word he leanred two days ago thusly:

As I recall you got yourself worked up in snitty lather when I said that as

a
young man I had dated two differenct centerfolds


Is that when you learned the value of "pre-lube"?



no, I knew the value of proper engine care while still young enough to think
the women of Playboy as "older women".

Florida Keyz June 29th 04 05:57 PM

Jax
 
if ya wanna know the kind of guys Jax is, go to

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...7ffb.040628165
2.401f1f69%40posting.google.com

Here is my favorite quote from that site:
"Jax, your an arrogant, ingnorant asshole"

Kinda says it all , don't it.

Florida Keyz June 29th 04 05:59 PM

Jax
 
Jax said"
As I recall you got yourself worked up in snitty lather when I said that as
a
young man I had dated two differenct centerfolds

"


That is true, in the Gay Mens Monthly!

Jim Richardson June 29th 04 07:04 PM

Jax
 
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:38:08 GMT,
Remco Moedt wrote:
On 29 Jun 2004 02:48:28 -0700, (OpalCat) wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/3cm2g for anyone interested (doubt that's many
people, but there you have it.)


Hehe, you certainly look better than Jax!

Cheers!


Remco

PS, I made a mistake, I DID load the picture at work... :-/ Well, it
wasn't as bad when I loaded that porn site with sound :-(




Interesting to see that Jax maintains his (poor) credibility other
places than just here.

--
Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
If I want to hear the pitter patter of little feet, I'll
put shoes on my dog.

OpalCat June 29th 04 08:36 PM

Jax
 
(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...

I stopped posting on that board when one poster sent a letter bomb to another
poster (who turned out to be 15 years old) killing the poster's friend (also 15 years old).


Err... that never happened. I don't know what drugs you're on, but
it's not fair to not share with the group.

And seven or eight years later you STILL search the net late at night to see
where I might have posted


Err, no, I didn't search. I was sent a link. Trust me, you don't cross
my mind except when someone emails me to tell me you're at it again.

Matt Colie June 29th 04 09:31 PM

40W oil causing wear problems over 30w?
 
Jeff,

The question you ask is simply to vague to provide a spacific answer.

The considerations come from:
Number of cold starts
Number of thermal cycles
Hours of operation at rated output
Hours of operation at idle only load
Hours of operation at less than rated output

In roughly that order.

A cold start is any time the engine gets cranked to fire. This
contaminates the oil and is the time of worst lubrication.
A thermal cycle is any time that the engine is run long enough to get to
operating temperature. This means that all those part have to push on
each other and side and move and it is how things leak or crack.
Hours of operation at rated load actually cause little damage, but it
should be the most common operating condition. This is when/where
piston rings and valve seats wear.
Hours of idle only load beat the bejesus out of the valve gear, and the
rings and pistons don't really fit because that only happens at rated
load.
Hours of operation at less than rated load, but enough to achieve proper
operating temperature will do the least harm. The question would be why
you are not using the engine as designed? Reserve power is nice, but it
is expensive as a first cost consideration (why most sailboat have just
enough power).

I hope this either gave you an answer that you understand or enough
information to phase another question. In the case of the later, I'm
here a lot - try again.

Matt Colie
See prior sig this date


Tamaroak wrote:

So which is easier on my engine, short period at high speed and load, or
long period at low load and speed?

Capt. jeff



JAXAshby June 30th 04 05:07 AM

Jax
 
yeah, sure, you betcha.

Err, no, I didn't search. I was sent a link. Trust me, you don't cross
my mind except when someone emails me to tell me you're at it again.


uh, huh. you don't have any tatoos, you never showed yourself to weight far
more than twice what your mother weighed, you never posted that you were
off-line for several days because your electricity was turned off, and you were
never ****ed to hear that hookers only get to have sex with men no other woman
wants.

sure.

JAXAshby June 30th 04 05:08 AM

Jax
 
one poster sent a letter bomb to another
poster (who turned out to be 15 years old) killing the poster's friend

(also 15 years old).

Err... that never happened. I don't know what drugs you're on, but
it's not fair to not share with the group.


it made the national newspapers.

JAXAshby June 30th 04 05:09 AM

Jax
 
until this moment I never knew such a magazine existed.

From: (Florida Keyz)
Date: 6/29/2004 12:59 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

Jax said"
As I recall you got yourself worked up in snitty lather when I said that as
a
young man I had dated two differenct centerfolds

"


That is true, in the Gay Mens Monthly!









Jim Richardson June 30th 04 10:04 AM

Jax
 
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On 30 Jun 2004 04:08:54 GMT,
JAXAshby wrote:
one poster sent a letter bomb to another
poster (who turned out to be 15 years old) killing the poster's friend

(also 15 years old).

Err... that never happened. I don't know what drugs you're on, but
it's not fair to not share with the group.


it made the national newspapers.



Then you should have no trouble providing a source, a hyperlink, or a
date/location or perhaps the name and date of a national newspaper that
carried the story?

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFA4n1/d90bcYOAWPYRArihAJ9ECleKwW7S56Rlan2o8gqJsatk8QCeOh zz
W3mCUZeFvOcy1PnAXaZwYoU=
=nLd9
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--
Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
(Whatever is said in Latin sounds profound.)

A-MAze June 30th 04 10:39 AM

Jax
 
snip
his assholery became so legendary that he
made mention on our "in jokes" page he
http://fathom.org/teemingmillions/injokes.html ...From which he ended
up getting his very own page. I keep it up now because it makes me
happy that it ****es him off so much.

/snip

Just what I love so about this stuff... I get to know things about
people I've never seen (apart from photos - nice site Opal), halfway
around the world, who seem to dislike each other a lot, and I can do it
all here at my desk!

Trouble in communities is, of course, if you're in the vicinity, you can
actually meet the trolls. Remind me never to sail over to get close
enough to Jax that this would ever happen. He does seem a bit... you
know.

But do go on, by all means. Newsgroups are always fun watching when
things get hairy. (But don't let it get to you, Opal.)
Victor

JAXAshby June 30th 04 12:51 PM

Jax
 
"victor", eh? and who says he likes oppy's site? who do you suppose "victor"
is? ...

From: A-MAze


----------- lid ------------


Date: 6/30/2004 5:39 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

snip
his assholery became so legendary that he
made mention on our "in jokes" page he
http://fathom.org/teemingmillions/injokes.html ...From which he ended
up getting his very own page. I keep it up now because it makes me
happy that it ****es him off so much.

/snip

Just what I love so about this stuff... I get to know things about
people I've never seen (apart from photos - nice site Opal), halfway
around the world, who seem to dislike each other a lot, and I can do it
all here at my desk!

Trouble in communities is, of course, if you're in the vicinity, you can
actually meet the trolls. Remind me never to sail over to get close
enough to Jax that this would ever happen. He does seem a bit... you
know.

But do go on, by all means. Newsgroups are always fun watching when
things get hairy. (But don't let it get to you, Opal.)
Victor









Florida Keyz June 30th 04 05:25 PM

Jax
 
Gosh jax, you really are consistent in making yourself apear such a stupid
jerk!



OpalCat June 30th 04 05:30 PM

Jax
 
(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
uh, huh. you don't have any tatoos, you never showed yourself to weight far
more than twice what your mother weighed, you never posted that you were
off-line for several days because your electricity was turned off, and you were
never ****ed to hear that hookers only get to have sex with men no other woman
wants.

sure.


I have already said that I did gain weight for a few years following
my pregnancy, but I certainly never weighed "twice what my mother
weighed" and even if I had... that discredits me how? And no, I don't
have any tattoos and never have. I have from time to time considered
getting a Celtic knot on my ankle but I've never done it. Yes, my
electricity was shut off but we got power back the same day. I have no
recollection of having a discussion about hookers with you--I don't
remember any specific threads, actually, I just remember the overall
attitude you displayed which infuriated absolutely everyone. Oh, and I
remember you saying that women referred to you as "all beefcake and a
boat" which amused us all mightily. (Are you sure they said "beefcake"
and not some more specific part of a cow's anatomy?) Frankly, if it
weren't for your apparent expert knowledge of hookers I'd think you
were a virgin, what with all the charm you possess.

^,,^ OpalCat

http://www.opalcat.com

JAXAshby July 1st 04 02:21 PM

Jax
 
oppy shure do take a lot of bandwidth to tell one and all how little she values
my opinion.

hell, if she didn't go to such great effort to put up a website about me and
track me even to a usenet group for cruising boats I would have long ago
forgotten she ever existed. Fat. Tattoo'd. Stripper. Trailor house. None
are part of my social class. Neither is chasing someone who doesn't want them.

I wish she would go away forever. By tomorrow afternoon I will have forgotten
her name, until the next time she shows up in some extremely unlikely place
that her website to me is not obsessive at all.

From: (OpalCat)
Date: 6/30/2004 12:30 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
uh, huh. you don't have any tatoos, you never showed yourself to weight

far
more than twice what your mother weighed, you never posted that you were
off-line for several days because your electricity was turned off, and you

were
never ****ed to hear that hookers only get to have sex with men no other

woman
wants.

sure.


I have already said that I did gain weight for a few years following
my pregnancy, but I certainly never weighed "twice what my mother
weighed" and even if I had... that discredits me how? And no, I don't
have any tattoos and never have. I have from time to time considered
getting a Celtic knot on my ankle but I've never done it. Yes, my
electricity was shut off but we got power back the same day. I have no
recollection of having a discussion about hookers with you--I don't
remember any specific threads, actually, I just remember the overall
attitude you displayed which infuriated absolutely everyone. Oh, and I
remember you saying that women referred to you as "all beefcake and a
boat" which amused us all mightily. (Are you sure they said "beefcake"
and not some more specific part of a cow's anatomy?) Frankly, if it
weren't for your apparent expert knowledge of hookers I'd think you
were a virgin, what with all the charm you possess.

^,,^ OpalCat

http://www.opalcat.com









OpalCat July 1st 04 11:27 PM

Jax
 
Yes, we can see that your social class is your fellow delusional
inmates at whatever loony bin you're incarcerated at. It must be
fascinating to fabricate your own universe and believe in it so fully.
And just so's you know, the "great effort" I go to involves not
deleting a page and one 10 minute session every few years spent typing
a couple of sentences. Between times I pretty much forget both it and
you exist. Might I remind you that YOU are the one who keeps talking
about ME [see numerous quotes I've pasted on your special page]? My
page just speaks for itself, no effort required. I don't track you
down, but every few years someone will send me a note telling me about
you latest ravings and so I'll peek in to watch the monkey flinging
his feces again.

By the way, do your doctors know what compels you to so doggedly
adhere to the completely disproven "fat" "tattoo'd [sic]" "trailor
[sic] house" persona that you invented for me?

(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
hell, if she didn't go to such great effort to put up a website about me and
track me even to a usenet group for cruising boats I would have long ago
forgotten she ever existed. Fat. Tattoo'd. Stripper. Trailor house. None
are part of my social class.


^,,^ OpalCat

http://www.opalcat.com

OpalCat July 1st 04 11:38 PM

Jax
 
Oh, for reference, here is an example of what I mean:
http://tinyurl.com/2bx4u I get mail from people like that once every
few years. You'll see that that is about the frequency with which I
drop by, no?

OpalCat July 1st 04 11:39 PM

Jax
 
Oh, for reference, here is an example of what I mean:
http://tinyurl.com/2bx4u I get mail from people like that once every
few years. You'll see that that is about the frequency with which I
drop by, no?

Florida Keyz July 2nd 04 01:49 AM

Jax
 
Hell, I look beter than Jax, and I can read.

JAXAshby July 2nd 04 04:59 AM

Jax
 
oppy wrote the following:

[snip all her obsessive compulsion with me, but leaving the really useful
stuff]

anybody know if she updated yet today her website paying homage to me?



Florida Keyz July 2nd 04 01:41 PM

Jax
 
that would be a good bet!@

Florida Keyz July 2nd 04 01:42 PM

Jax
 
no homage jax, Homo age..

Jim Richardson July 3rd 04 09:34 AM

Jax
 
On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 08:05:23 -0400,
Gene Kearns wrote:
On 02 Jul 2004 00:49:55 GMT, (Florida Keyz) wrote:

Hell, I look beter than Jax, and I can read.


That, and I'm betting you have a high enough IQ not to post a "me in
my Speedo undies" photo on the Internet....



my eyes! dear god! my eyes!

--
Jim Richardson
http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
" ... a language is just an dialect with an army and a navy."
-- Paul Tomblin, in a.s.r.

LaBomba182 July 6th 04 01:18 AM

40W oil causing wear problems over 30w?
 
Subject: 40W oil causing wear problems over 30w?
From: "spare-me-spam"


Sure you do. Your 90 deg F startup temp is a world of difference from
the 100 -110 deg C operating oil temps, in terms of pumpability.


Perhaps true. But not enough to warrant a change in weights.

Capt. Bill

JAXAshby July 6th 04 04:57 AM

40W oil causing wear problems over 30w?
 
Perhaps true. But not enough to warrant a change in weights.


the SAE thinks otherwise.

spare-me-spam July 7th 04 06:56 PM

Jax
 
Do you remember the early pseudo-interactive programs for PCs in the
80's?
The ones where you would say hello, and it would say, Why do you ask
that?
You would answer, " to be friendly" and it would say" do you feel the
need to be friendly?"
And so forth and so on.

Do you remember the Monty Python routine about argument vs.
contraryism?
Do you remember this post from August 2002?

The world according to SackAshby:

If you say 2+2=4, he'll say 2 ducks and 2 apples don't equal 4 birds.
If you ask why he brings up birds, he'll say it has nothing to do with
math.
You come back to 2+2 IS math, he'll say you heard that from someone 25
years ago.
You say , well 2+2 does equal 4, he'll say you can't add fruit and fowl.

Its an easy game to play, but it is only winnable by longevity, not by
anything that has objective, or even subjective
relevance to the topic. and it's not even novel:

Sack: Now, let's get one thing quite clear... I most definitely told
you!
Person: You did not.
Sack: Yes I did.
Responder: You did not.
Sack: Yes I did.
Responder: Didn't.
Sack: Yes I did.
Responder: Didn't.
Sack: Yes I did!!
Responder: Look this isn't an argument.
Sack: Yes it is.
Responder: No it isn't, it's just contradiction.
Sack: No it isn't.
Responder: Yes it is.
Sack: It is not.
Responder: It is. You just contradicted me.
Sack: No I didn't.
Responder: Ooh, you did!
Sack: No, no, no, no, no.
Responder: You did, just then.
Sack: No, nonsense!
Responder: Oh, look this is futile.
Sack: No it isn't.
Responder: I came here for a good argument.
Sack: No you didn't, you came here for an argument.
Responder: Well, an argument's not the same as contradiction.
Sack: It can be.
Responder: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements
intended to establish a definite proposition.
Sack: No it isn't.
Responder: Yes it is. It isn't just contradiction.
Sack: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
Responder: But it isn't just saying "No it isn't".
Sack: Yes it is.
Responder: No it isn't, an argument is an intellectual process...
contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other
person says.
Sack: No it isn't.
Responder: Yes it is.
Sack: Not at all.
Responder: Now look!
Sack: Thank you, good morning.
Responder: What?
Sack: That's it. Good morning.
Responder: But I was just getting interested.

Sound familiar?

Jax is pathologic. He is damaged and will never be right in his mind.
He is pathetic, in the true sense of the term. That is easily determined
in
moments. So, the real question is......What excuse do the rest of y'all
have for responding to him?


--

"Florida Keyz" wrote in message
...
| Gosh jax, you really are consistent in making yourself apear such a
stupid
| jerk!
|
|




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:32 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com