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tml trying to deliver much needed medical supplies to Gaza through the Israeli Blockade.....IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS.....nothing new for the Zionists: http://www.gtr5.com/ Accident my ass...... |
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On Dec 31, 3:22 pm, Larry wrote:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...08123012141266... tml trying to deliver much needed medical supplies to Gaza through the Israeli Blockade.....IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS.....nothing new for the Zionists: http://www.gtr5.com/ Accident my ass...... had to be an accident, Cynthia McKinney lived through it. Seriously, who would care to deliver supplies to people who just legalized crucifixion. It's like Gaza has become a stupid magnet. |
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On Dec 31, 4:43 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Dec 31, 3:22 pm, Larry wrote: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...08123012141266... tml trying to deliver much needed medical supplies to Gaza through the Israeli Blockade.....IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS.....nothing new for the Zionists: http://www.gtr5.com/ Accident my ass...... had to be an accident, Cynthia McKinney lived through it. Seriously, who would care to deliver supplies to people who just legalized crucifixion. It's like Gaza has become a stupid magnet. Not to worry, there's no intelligent life in Gaza, now a Hamas rep says on NPR that they have not been firing rockets into Israel, it has all been done by Israeli collaborators |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Dec 31, 4:43 pm, Frogwatch wrote: On Dec 31, 3:22 pm, Larry wrote: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...08123012141266... tml trying to deliver much needed medical supplies to Gaza through the Israeli Blockade.....IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS.....nothing new for the Zionists: http://www.gtr5.com/ Accident my ass...... had to be an accident, Cynthia McKinney lived through it. Seriously, who would care to deliver supplies to people who just legalized crucifixion. It's like Gaza has become a stupid magnet. Not to worry, there's no intelligent life in Gaza, now a Hamas rep says on NPR that they have not been firing rockets into Israel, it has all been done by Israeli collaborators Amazing isn't it? Moron keeps poking elephant with knitting needle, elephant says "stop it, or I'll hurt you." Moron pokes some more elephant picks up a tree and wallops moron; moron comes to, and two weeks later, while still in a body cast starts poking elephant again..... Cheers Martin |
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"Marty" wrote in message
... Frogwatch wrote: On Dec 31, 4:43 pm, Frogwatch wrote: On Dec 31, 3:22 pm, Larry wrote: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...08123012141266... tml trying to deliver much needed medical supplies to Gaza through the Israeli Blockade.....IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS.....nothing new for the Zionists: http://www.gtr5.com/ Accident my ass...... had to be an accident, Cynthia McKinney lived through it. Seriously, who would care to deliver supplies to people who just legalized crucifixion. It's like Gaza has become a stupid magnet. Not to worry, there's no intelligent life in Gaza, now a Hamas rep says on NPR that they have not been firing rockets into Israel, it has all been done by Israeli collaborators Amazing isn't it? Moron keeps poking elephant with knitting needle, elephant says "stop it, or I'll hurt you." Moron pokes some more elephant picks up a tree and wallops moron; moron comes to, and two weeks later, while still in a body cast starts poking elephant again..... Cheers Martin I feel sorry for the Palestinians. Their leaders seemed to be unable to make progress in the peace talks with the Israelis, so the elected Hamas. Instead of making good on their promise to feed/clothe/protect their people, they launch a stupid war against Israel rather than at least attempting to negotiate a peace treaty. That group has declared over and over that Israel should be destroyed. They need to dump Hamas. I feel sorry for the Israelis who live in constant fear from random rocket landings. How anyone can live in this situation is beyond me. While they have a right to protect themselves and end the rocket attacks, they can't slaughter relative innocents in the process. I don't believe they're doing that, but that's the perception that's being generated by the Arab run news agencies based in countries where the governments usually don't believe Israel has a right to exist. The Israelies should, as we should in other places, put a greater emphasis on human intelligence to solve this criminal problem. Most of the people of Gaza and most of the people in Israel just want peace and coexistence. I feel sorry for Larry, who is caught up in the conspiracy theory, anti-Zionist, anti-Israeli, anti-Jewish mentality. I'm sure this didn't start with him with 9/11. In any case, it's disgusting to watch, and he should consider taking a break from his continual ranting about it. He's not making his case. Have a great, safe New Year celebration! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in
easolutions: I feel sorry for Larry, who is caught up in the conspiracy theory, anti-Zionist, anti-Israeli, anti-Jewish mentality. I'm sure this didn't start with him with 9/11. In any case, it's disgusting to watch, and he should consider taking a break from his continual ranting about it. He's not making his case. Someone need to point out the obvious, before AIPAC makes slaves out of your grandchildren. |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in easolutions: I feel sorry for Larry, who is caught up in the conspiracy theory, anti-Zionist, anti-Israeli, anti-Jewish mentality. I'm sure this didn't start with him with 9/11. In any case, it's disgusting to watch, and he should consider taking a break from his continual ranting about it. He's not making his case. Someone need to point out the obvious, before AIPAC makes slaves out of your grandchildren. I have no living descendants. When I am dead, any responsibility I may have had for this planet will have ended. I will be able to stop hitting my head against a brick wall, and the world will be able to go to hell in its own way. Call me selfish, but a body can only take so much of this crap. |
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In article lutions, Capt. JG wrote:
[big snip] that's the perception that's being generated by the Arab run news agencies based in countries where the governments usually don't believe Israel has a right to exist. I don't think you'll find it's the *existence* of Israel that is the problem, it's *where* it exists that is the cause of the trouble. For example, if the Jews had, let's say, Rhode Island, I'm sure the Palestinians and Jordanians would be quite happy but would you? Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea. |
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"Larry" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote in easolutions: I feel sorry for Larry, who is caught up in the conspiracy theory, anti-Zionist, anti-Israeli, anti-Jewish mentality. I'm sure this didn't start with him with 9/11. In any case, it's disgusting to watch, and he should consider taking a break from his continual ranting about it. He's not making his case. Someone need to point out the obvious, before AIPAC makes slaves out of your grandchildren. You're delusional. There's no Zionist conspiracy except in your mind. In any case, have a lovely holiday! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Justin C" wrote in message ... In article lutions, Capt. JG wrote: [big snip] that's the perception that's being generated by the Arab run news agencies based in countries where the governments usually don't believe Israel has a right to exist. I don't think you'll find it's the *existence* of Israel that is the problem, it's *where* it exists that is the cause of the trouble. For example, if the Jews had, let's say, Rhode Island, I'm sure the Palestinians and Jordanians would be quite happy but would you? Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea. I have proposed many times that we should give New Jersey as a new homeland for the Jewish People. It's roughly the same size as Israel, with a much better climate. And we already stole it fair and square from the Indians, who are unlikely to start fighting over it again. Anyone else who complains about it would just be proving themselves to be anti-Semitic. |
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KLC Lewis wrote:
"Justin C" wrote in message ... In article lutions, Capt. JG wrote: [big snip] that's the perception that's being generated by the Arab run news agencies based in countries where the governments usually don't believe Israel has a right to exist. I don't think you'll find it's the *existence* of Israel that is the problem, it's *where* it exists that is the cause of the trouble. For example, if the Jews had, let's say, Rhode Island, I'm sure the Palestinians and Jordanians would be quite happy but would you? Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea. I have proposed many times that we should give New Jersey as a new homeland for the Jewish People. It's roughly the same size as Israel, with a much better climate. And we already stole it fair and square from the Indians, who are unlikely to start fighting over it again. Anyone else who complains about it would just be proving themselves to be anti-Semitic. I grew up in New Jersey and I approve of this message. |
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KLC Lewis wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in easolutions: I feel sorry for Larry, who is caught up in the conspiracy theory, anti-Zionist, anti-Israeli, anti-Jewish mentality. I'm sure this didn't start with him with 9/11. In any case, it's disgusting to watch, and he should consider taking a break from his continual ranting about it. He's not making his case. Someone need to point out the obvious, before AIPAC makes slaves out of your grandchildren. I have no living descendants. When I am dead, any responsibility I may have had for this planet will have ended. I will be able to stop hitting my head against a brick wall, and the world will be able to go to hell in its own way. Call me selfish, but a body can only take so much of this crap. The world is getting better and better as time goes by. Morality, altruism, technology and quality of life, transportation, freedom, and just about any other good thing you can name is worlds better than it was, say a thousand years ago, and will be the same worlds better in the future. With any luck we will also soon solve the problem of death and be able to go into this marvelous future ourselves, nevermind our ancestors. Stephen |
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Justin C wrote:
In article lutions, Capt. JG wrote: [big snip] that's the perception that's being generated by the Arab run news agencies based in countries where the governments usually don't believe Israel has a right to exist. I don't think you'll find it's the *existence* of Israel that is the problem, it's *where* it exists that is the cause of the trouble. For example, if the Jews had, let's say, Rhode Island, I'm sure the Palestinians and Jordanians would be quite happy but would you? Err, Muslim extremists have shown with great clarity that even the other side of the world is not far enough away for them to live in peace with democratic societies. They have said over and over that their goal is to wipe our kind off the face of the earth, unless we convert to Islam and give up this crazy idea of freedom and democracy. Well, it's them who will be wiped from the face of the earth. Stephen |
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On Dec 31, 9:56 pm, Stephen Trapani wrote:
Justin C wrote: In article lutions, Capt. JG wrote: [big snip] that's the perception that's being generated by the Arab run news agencies based in countries where the governments usually don't believe Israel has a right to exist. I don't think you'll find it's the *existence* of Israel that is the problem, it's *where* it exists that is the cause of the trouble. For example, if the Jews had, let's say, Rhode Island, I'm sure the Palestinians and Jordanians would be quite happy but would you? Err, Muslim extremists have shown with great clarity that even the other side of the world is not far enough away for them to live in peace with democratic societies. They have said over and over that their goal is to wipe our kind off the face of the earth, unless we convert to Islam and give up this crazy idea of freedom and democracy. Well, it's them who will be wiped from the face of the earth. Stephen In the 1820s, the Brits suppressed the Thuggee cult because of the violence they caused. At the end of WW2, the USA suppressed the cult of the emperor. We will have to do the same for Islam because it has become a danger to the entire world. How many muslims have you seen who have unconditionally denounced the murder and torture of children at Beslan in Chenya by muslims? It is always the same, they say "Well, somebody was bad to us 500 yrs ago so we have a right to committ atrocities now". I am really surprised that the Russians did not do something extreme to Islam after Beslan. |
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:01:22 -0500, Marty wrote:
Frogwatch wrote: On Dec 31, 4:43 pm, Frogwatch wrote: On Dec 31, 3:22 pm, Larry wrote: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...08123012141266... tml trying to deliver much needed medical supplies to Gaza through the Israeli Blockade.....IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS.....nothing new for the Zionists: http://www.gtr5.com/ Accident my ass...... had to be an accident, Cynthia McKinney lived through it. Seriously, who would care to deliver supplies to people who just legalized crucifixion. It's like Gaza has become a stupid magnet. Not to worry, there's no intelligent life in Gaza, now a Hamas rep says on NPR that they have not been firing rockets into Israel, it has all been done by Israeli collaborators Amazing isn't it? Moron keeps poking elephant with knitting needle, elephant says "stop it, or I'll hurt you." Moron pokes some more elephant picks up a tree and wallops moron; moron comes to, and two weeks later, while still in a body cast starts poking elephant again..... Cheers Martin Especially as the elephant has stomped the 'lads' three times in a row. Damn, if somebody punched my lights out every time I bothered him I'd quit bothering, move to Saudi and get a job. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 01:16:27 -0000, Justin C
wrote: In article lutions, Capt. JG wrote: [big snip] that's the perception that's being generated by the Arab run news agencies based in countries where the governments usually don't believe Israel has a right to exist. I don't think you'll find it's the *existence* of Israel that is the problem, it's *where* it exists that is the cause of the trouble. For example, if the Jews had, let's say, Rhode Island, I'm sure the Palestinians and Jordanians would be quite happy but would you? Justin. Certainly, who cares about Rhode Island? Better yet, give 'em Miami as it is much the Jewish homeland as Palestine.. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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"Justin C" wrote in message
... In article lutions, Capt. JG wrote: [big snip] that's the perception that's being generated by the Arab run news agencies based in countries where the governments usually don't believe Israel has a right to exist. I don't think you'll find it's the *existence* of Israel that is the problem, it's *where* it exists that is the cause of the trouble. For example, if the Jews had, let's say, Rhode Island, I'm sure the Palestinians and Jordanians would be quite happy but would you? Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea. I have no problem if they want Rhode Island. I've been to Rhode Island. LOL -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Dec 31, 9:56 pm, Stephen Trapani wrote: Justin C wrote: In article lutions, Capt. JG wrote: [big snip] that's the perception that's being generated by the Arab run news agencies based in countries where the governments usually don't believe Israel has a right to exist. I don't think you'll find it's the *existence* of Israel that is the problem, it's *where* it exists that is the cause of the trouble. For example, if the Jews had, let's say, Rhode Island, I'm sure the Palestinians and Jordanians would be quite happy but would you? Err, Muslim extremists have shown with great clarity that even the other side of the world is not far enough away for them to live in peace with democratic societies. They have said over and over that their goal is to wipe our kind off the face of the earth, unless we convert to Islam and give up this crazy idea of freedom and democracy. Well, it's them who will be wiped from the face of the earth. Stephen In the 1820s, the Brits suppressed the Thuggee cult because of the violence they caused. At the end of WW2, the USA suppressed the cult of the emperor. We will have to do the same for Islam because it has become a danger to the entire world. How many muslims have you seen who have unconditionally denounced the murder and torture of children at Beslan in Chenya by muslims? It is always the same, they say "Well, somebody was bad to us 500 yrs ago so we have a right to committ atrocities now". I am really surprised that the Russians did not do something extreme to Islam after Beslan. These rockets are not being manufactured in someone's backyard. There has to be a production facility somewhere, and it's up to the Israelis to find out where and destroy that facility, rather than try to hit the launch sites or the command/control sites, killing hundreds of innocent civilians. Allied bombing raids on the fixed and moveable V2 launch sites proved futile in WW2 until the raid(s) on Peenemunde, which was a development site, not a manufacturing facility. The raids set back the V2 program by about 3-4 months, otherwise the V2 would have preceded the flying bomb, or V1, and caused many more deaths than the 5475 official figures resulting from the 6725 launches. If the V2's had not been built by slave labour from the death camps, the costs of production would have brought Germany to it's knees. The costs of production of the Hamas rockets are probably been financed out of oil revenues, so every gallon you put in your tank is helping to kill innocent Israelis. If the Israelis do succeed in finding and destroying the production sites, there will no doubt be the usual outcry from our liberal do-gooders condemning them for killing "innocent" civilians. You can't win these days! DP |
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In article , Stephen Trapani wrote:
Well, it's them who will be wiped from the face of the earth. Thus spake Adolf Hitler. Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea. |
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On Dec 31 2008, 3:22*pm, Larry wrote:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...08123012141266... tml trying to deliver much needed medical supplies to Gaza through the Israeli Blockade.....IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS.....nothing new for the Zionists: http://www.gtr5.com/ Accident my ass...... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ It is very sad that Cynthia McKinney lived through it! This crazy bigot is so desperate for attention she conjures up stunts to illegally enter a public war zone and insert herself, again, into the news cycle. It is sad that we all have to bear her insensitivity and insecurity during an emotional conflict. When military authorities tell you to bear off - do you really expect them to have no reaction to illegal entry? |
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Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:01:22 -0500, Marty wrote: Especially as the elephant has stomped the 'lads' three times in a row. Damn, if somebody punched my lights out every time I bothered him I'd quit bothering, move to Saudi and get a job. Does not work that way. The more Israel attacks the Palestinians the more easily outfits like Hamas can recruit. When Israeli rockets kill 5 little girls who are sisters, those girls act as poster children to motivate the next wave of suicide bombers. Hamas isn't be hurt here. It's being helped. |
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"Dennis Pogson" wrote in message
... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Dec 31, 9:56 pm, Stephen Trapani wrote: Justin C wrote: In article lutions, Capt. JG wrote: [big snip] that's the perception that's being generated by the Arab run news agencies based in countries where the governments usually don't believe Israel has a right to exist. I don't think you'll find it's the *existence* of Israel that is the problem, it's *where* it exists that is the cause of the trouble. For example, if the Jews had, let's say, Rhode Island, I'm sure the Palestinians and Jordanians would be quite happy but would you? Err, Muslim extremists have shown with great clarity that even the other side of the world is not far enough away for them to live in peace with democratic societies. They have said over and over that their goal is to wipe our kind off the face of the earth, unless we convert to Islam and give up this crazy idea of freedom and democracy. Well, it's them who will be wiped from the face of the earth. Stephen In the 1820s, the Brits suppressed the Thuggee cult because of the violence they caused. At the end of WW2, the USA suppressed the cult of the emperor. We will have to do the same for Islam because it has become a danger to the entire world. How many muslims have you seen who have unconditionally denounced the murder and torture of children at Beslan in Chenya by muslims? It is always the same, they say "Well, somebody was bad to us 500 yrs ago so we have a right to committ atrocities now". I am really surprised that the Russians did not do something extreme to Islam after Beslan. These rockets are not being manufactured in someone's backyard. There has to be a production facility somewhere, and it's up to the Israelis to find out where and destroy that facility, rather than try to hit the launch sites or the command/control sites, killing hundreds of innocent civilians. Allied bombing raids on the fixed and moveable V2 launch sites proved futile in WW2 until the raid(s) on Peenemunde, which was a development site, not a manufacturing facility. The raids set back the V2 program by about 3-4 months, otherwise the V2 would have preceded the flying bomb, or V1, and caused many more deaths than the 5475 official figures resulting from the 6725 launches. If the V2's had not been built by slave labour from the death camps, the costs of production would have brought Germany to it's knees. The costs of production of the Hamas rockets are probably been financed out of oil revenues, so every gallon you put in your tank is helping to kill innocent Israelis. If the Israelis do succeed in finding and destroying the production sites, there will no doubt be the usual outcry from our liberal do-gooders condemning them for killing "innocent" civilians. You can't win these days! DP I'm a liberal do-gooder and I'm not condemning them. My understanding is that the rockets are manufactured in small batches and those places are targeted. I hope they succeed in destroying them. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
... On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 01:16:27 -0000, Justin C wrote: In article lutions, Capt. JG wrote: [big snip] that's the perception that's being generated by the Arab run news agencies based in countries where the governments usually don't believe Israel has a right to exist. I don't think you'll find it's the *existence* of Israel that is the problem, it's *where* it exists that is the cause of the trouble. For example, if the Jews had, let's say, Rhode Island, I'm sure the Palestinians and Jordanians would be quite happy but would you? Justin. Certainly, who cares about Rhode Island? Better yet, give 'em Miami as it is much the Jewish homeland as Palestine.. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) I vote for Los Angeles! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"slide" wrote in message ... Bruce In Bangkok wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:01:22 -0500, Marty wrote: Especially as the elephant has stomped the 'lads' three times in a row. Damn, if somebody punched my lights out every time I bothered him I'd quit bothering, move to Saudi and get a job. Does not work that way. The more Israel attacks the Palestinians the more easily outfits like Hamas can recruit. When Israeli rockets kill 5 little girls who are sisters, those girls act as poster children to motivate the next wave of suicide bombers. Hamas isn't be hurt here. It's being helped. "We will stop raping you when you stop resisting us." |
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Justin C wrote:
In article , Stephen Trapani wrote: Well, it's them who will be wiped from the face of the earth. Thus spake Adolf Hitler. And thus spake those who wiped Hitler from the face of the earth. Stephen |
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In article ,
"Dennis Pogson" wrote: Allied bombing raids on the fixed and moveable V2 launch sites proved futile in WW2 until the raid(s) on Peenemunde, which was a development site, not a manufacturing facility. The raids set back the V2 program by about 3-4 months, otherwise the V2 would have preceded the flying bomb, or V1, and caused many more deaths than the 5475 official figures resulting from the 6725 launches. Bzzzt Wrong, there were no V2's in production, BEFORE Peenemunde was bombed, as the V2 was still in the early prototype Stage at that time. Maybe your thinking of the V1, "Buzz Bomb" which was just starting into Military Production, elsewhere, after being designed, and Flight Tested, at Peenemunde. |
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:22:17 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "Justin C" wrote in message ... In article lutions, Capt. JG wrote: [big snip] that's the perception that's being generated by the Arab run news agencies based in countries where the governments usually don't believe Israel has a right to exist. I don't think you'll find it's the *existence* of Israel that is the problem, it's *where* it exists that is the cause of the trouble. For example, if the Jews had, let's say, Rhode Island, I'm sure the Palestinians and Jordanians would be quite happy but would you? Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea. I have no problem if they want Rhode Island. I've been to Rhode Island. LOL Yeah but then you have to find a new home for the mafia. |
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On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 10:30:40 -0700, slide wrote:
Does not work that way. The more Israel attacks the Palestinians the more easily outfits like Hamas can recruit. When Israeli rockets kill 5 little girls who are sisters, those girls act as poster children to motivate the next wave of suicide bombers. Hamas isn't be hurt here. It's being helped. Israel has been fighting the same war, the same way, for 50 years. Slow learners? |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:44:37 -0600, wrote: Their only alternative - as I see it - is to use a "final solution" remedy on the Palestinians. They won't of course. Allowing full integration will only cause a delayed destruction of Israel, as the Palestinians will multiply like rabbits, and when their numbers are large enough the will have their vengeance. I don't see this ending until either every Palestinian or every Israeli jew is dead. Bleak, but there it is. Israel reminds me of those ancient city-states where every citizen must also be a warrior. The Palestinians were wronged decades ago, as were the Armenians, the Serbs, the Croats, and any number of ethnic groups. There is a blood lust involved that may take centuries to fade. In the meantime, it's business as usual. I don't agree that the Jews are all right here. They demand an ethnically pure state which is the root of this problem. I don't see how Jews here in the US can bleat about how they feel sorry for Mex's sneaking in here and we need multiculturalism while they support pure ethnic identity in Israel. Sure, the Arabs will maybe some day be a large voting block in Israel - tough **** on the Jews. So they need to accommodate non-Jews in their politics. Once the US was pretty much all white & the whites didn't need to take into consideration the needs or desires of non-whites. How many Jews in the US would back a return to those days? So here in the US we probably will survive a black president and damn it, time for the Jews to think that maybe a future PM of Israel will be an Arab. Jews in the US like to boast that they marched for integration in the US. OK, time for a few of those marches in Israel. |
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slide wrote:
Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:44:37 -0600, wrote: Their only alternative - as I see it - is to use a "final solution" remedy on the Palestinians. They won't of course. Allowing full integration will only cause a delayed destruction of Israel, as the Palestinians will multiply like rabbits, and when their numbers are large enough the will have their vengeance. I don't see this ending until either every Palestinian or every Israeli jew is dead. Bleak, but there it is. Israel reminds me of those ancient city-states where every citizen must also be a warrior. The Palestinians were wronged decades ago, as were the Armenians, the Serbs, the Croats, and any number of ethnic groups. There is a blood lust involved that may take centuries to fade. In the meantime, it's business as usual. I don't agree that the Jews are all right here. They demand an ethnically pure state which is the root of this problem. What makes you think that? 20% of legal Israeli citizens are Arab. What problem has their been with them? A huge non-Israeli transient group of mostly Arabs attempt to take advantage of the economic freedom and vibrant economy of Israel. Those have been a problem because the suicide terrorist who target innocent citizens sneak in among them. After many different attempted solutions resulting in the death of many innocents this group has been severely restricted, with good reason. I don't see how Jews here in the US can bleat about how they feel sorry for Mex's sneaking in here and we need multiculturalism while they support pure ethnic identity in Israel. Sure, the Arabs will maybe some day be a large voting block in Israel - tough **** on the Jews. So they need to accommodate non-Jews in their politics. What makes you think they don't? Stephen |
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On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:31:13 -0700, slide
wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:44:37 -0600, wrote: Their only alternative - as I see it - is to use a "final solution" remedy on the Palestinians. They won't of course. Allowing full integration will only cause a delayed destruction of Israel, as the Palestinians will multiply like rabbits, and when their numbers are large enough the will have their vengeance. I don't see this ending until either every Palestinian or every Israeli jew is dead. Bleak, but there it is. Israel reminds me of those ancient city-states where every citizen must also be a warrior. The Palestinians were wronged decades ago, as were the Armenians, the Serbs, the Croats, and any number of ethnic groups. There is a blood lust involved that may take centuries to fade. In the meantime, it's business as usual. I don't agree that the Jews are all right here. They demand an ethnically pure state which is the root of this problem. I don't see how Jews here in the US can bleat about how they feel sorry for Mex's sneaking in here and we need multiculturalism while they support pure ethnic identity in Israel. Sure, the Arabs will maybe some day be a large voting block in Israel - tough **** on the Jews. So they need to accommodate non-Jews in their politics. Once the US was pretty much all white & the whites didn't need to take into consideration the needs or desires of non-whites. How many Jews in the US would back a return to those days? So here in the US we probably will survive a black president and damn it, time for the Jews to think that maybe a future PM of Israel will be an Arab. Jews in the US like to boast that they marched for integration in the US. OK, time for a few of those marches in Israel. Though I can't disagree with anything you've said, I do think the Israeli jews believe they will be slaughtered, or exiled from Israel should they treat Palestinians like we in the U.S. treat Mexicans or blacks. I'm not sure of that, but if were an Israeli I suspect I would take that tack. Though we've been multicultural throughout our history, there is plenty of opposition here in the U.S. to letting the language aspect of multiculturalism bleed into everyday life. I get a bit ****ed every time I'm asked to choose 1 or 2 on the phone. Wouldn't think of moving to Mexico and conducting business on the phone without speaking Spanish. So I'm sure we agree on some things. My support for the Palestinians dried up when Israel finally withdrew from the occupied territories and I saw the result. Not a damned thing changed. Blood lust. Not too different than the other radical Muslims. Except when I feel the lust myself - and I have - I take no sides. These are just off the cuff remarks, and I may be wrong about much of it, and since nobody pays for my opinions, that's what they're worth. Nothing. But I do like to write them down now and then. And hear others' opinions. --Vic |
M/V "Dignity" RAMMED by Israeli Navy gunboat.
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... On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:22:17 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Justin C" wrote in message .. . In article lutions, Capt. JG wrote: [big snip] that's the perception that's being generated by the Arab run news agencies based in countries where the governments usually don't believe Israel has a right to exist. I don't think you'll find it's the *existence* of Israel that is the problem, it's *where* it exists that is the cause of the trouble. For example, if the Jews had, let's say, Rhode Island, I'm sure the Palestinians and Jordanians would be quite happy but would you? Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea. I have no problem if they want Rhode Island. I've been to Rhode Island. LOL Yeah but then you have to find a new home for the mafia. I guess I should stop watching reruns of the Soranos. :) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
M/V "Dignity" RAMMED by Israeli Navy gunboat.
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... Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:44:37 -0600, wrote: Their only alternative - as I see it - is to use a "final solution" remedy on the Palestinians. They won't of course. Allowing full integration will only cause a delayed destruction of Israel, as the Palestinians will multiply like rabbits, and when their numbers are large enough the will have their vengeance. I don't see this ending until either every Palestinian or every Israeli jew is dead. Bleak, but there it is. Israel reminds me of those ancient city-states where every citizen must also be a warrior. The Palestinians were wronged decades ago, as were the Armenians, the Serbs, the Croats, and any number of ethnic groups. There is a blood lust involved that may take centuries to fade. In the meantime, it's business as usual. I don't agree that the Jews are all right here. They demand an ethnically pure state which is the root of this problem. I don't see how Jews here in the US can bleat about how they feel sorry for Mex's sneaking in here and we need multiculturalism while they support pure ethnic identity in Israel. Sure, the Arabs will maybe some day be a large voting block in Israel - tough **** on the Jews. So they need to accommodate non-Jews in their politics. Ethnically pure? Ummm.... I don't think so. There are many non-Jews who are Israeli citizens. They may not have as much of an impact as do the ethnical Jews, but they are part of the politics. They've also assimilated Ethiopians and other ethnic minorities. Once the US was pretty much all white & the whites didn't need to take into consideration the needs or desires of non-whites. How many Jews in the US would back a return to those days? So here in the US we probably will survive a black president and damn it, time for the Jews to think that maybe a future PM of Israel will be an Arab. You're right. We'll survive Obama just fine. Do I detect a hint of prejudice? Nah.... Jews in the US like to boast that they marched for integration in the US. OK, time for a few of those marches in Israel. That's already happening and has happened for years. I think you're under the impression that it's monolithic culture. It isn't. Remember who assassinated Rabin? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
M/V "Dignity" RAMMED by Israeli Navy gunboat.
On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 10:30:40 -0700, slide
wrote: Bruce In Bangkok wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:01:22 -0500, Marty wrote: Especially as the elephant has stomped the 'lads' three times in a row. Damn, if somebody punched my lights out every time I bothered him I'd quit bothering, move to Saudi and get a job. Does not work that way. The more Israel attacks the Palestinians the more easily outfits like Hamas can recruit. When Israeli rockets kill 5 little girls who are sisters, those girls act as poster children to motivate the next wave of suicide bombers. Hamas isn't be hurt here. It's being helped. I was really being a bit factious here as of course I realize that the perfect method of recruiting is to have some martyrs to point to. The attacks undoubtedly do cause waves of enlistments in the Hamas ranks. Obviously, I suppose, as they use numbers of them as bombs - must have spares. Unfortunately the Israelis appear to have no other option. I don't follow M. East politics much but didn't the Israelis agree to negotiate some sort of peace scheme with the Palestinians? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
M/V "Dignity" RAMMED by Israeli Navy gunboat.
On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:31:13 -0700, slide
wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:44:37 -0600, wrote: Their only alternative - as I see it - is to use a "final solution" remedy on the Palestinians. They won't of course. Allowing full integration will only cause a delayed destruction of Israel, as the Palestinians will multiply like rabbits, and when their numbers are large enough the will have their vengeance. I don't see this ending until either every Palestinian or every Israeli jew is dead. Bleak, but there it is. Israel reminds me of those ancient city-states where every citizen must also be a warrior. The Palestinians were wronged decades ago, as were the Armenians, the Serbs, the Croats, and any number of ethnic groups. There is a blood lust involved that may take centuries to fade. In the meantime, it's business as usual. I don't agree that the Jews are all right here. They demand an ethnically pure state which is the root of this problem. I don't see how Jews here in the US can bleat about how they feel sorry for Mex's sneaking in here and we need multiculturalism while they support pure ethnic identity in Israel. Sure, the Arabs will maybe some day be a large voting block in Israel - tough **** on the Jews. So they need to accommodate non-Jews in their politics. Once the US was pretty much all white & the whites didn't need to take into consideration the needs or desires of non-whites. How many Jews in the US would back a return to those days? So here in the US we probably will survive a black president and damn it, time for the Jews to think that maybe a future PM of Israel will be an Arab. Jews in the US like to boast that they marched for integration in the US. OK, time for a few of those marches in Israel. But there large numbers of Arabs living and working inside Israel. Wasn't one of the big complaints about the "wall" that it was "hard to get to work"? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
M/V "Dignity" RAMMED by Israeli Navy gunboat.
slide wrote in news:gjjgg2$398$1
@news.motzarella.org: I don't agree that the Jews are all right here. They demand an ethnically pure state which is the root of this problem. I don't see how Jews here in the US can bleat about how they feel sorry for Mex's sneaking in here and we need multiculturalism while they support pure ethnic identity in Israel. Sure, the Arabs will maybe some day be a large voting block in Israel - tough **** on the Jews. So they need to accommodate non-Jews in their politics. Once the US was pretty much all white & the whites didn't need to take into consideration the needs or desires of non-whites. How many Jews in the US would back a return to those days? So here in the US we probably will survive a black president and damn it, time for the Jews to think that maybe a future PM of Israel will be an Arab. Jews in the US like to boast that they marched for integration in the US. OK, time for a few of those marches in Israel. The whole civil rights movement in the USA was started, funded and run, not by blacks like Martin Luther King, but by JEWS, Communist Jews trying to divide and conquer from within American Society. Zionism and Communism have a long paper trail back into Czarist Russia, where Zionist Jews pulled russia apart promoting Communism to bring Russia under their control.....financial control, just like the good ol' USA. There is a very interesting website...once you overcome your Zionist brainwashing you've been propagandized with all your lives...run by the very people Zionism has, so far, tried to silence that exposes, with documented historic facts, not ranting and raving. This will be attacked, as usual, as "conspiracy theory", a Zionist operative used with "anti-semitism" to stifle thought and debate on the subject. http://www.martinlutherking.org/ Click on the Civil Rights and Jews title or just go to: http://www.martinlutherking.org/ma-chapter18.html Ah, now were going to hear about KKK and David Duke from the Zionist watchdogs. But wait! David Duke is much older and wiser and much more subdued than the one you are supposed to have implanted in your mind. He's not the David Duke of 1962. Read Chapter 18 on this webpage of his book, "My Awakening". You're reading it for free so have little to lose. Notice the lack of sheets and burning crosses, now. You can't read this HISTORY in a Zionist-controlled US university, any more. Just take a look and open your mind. King's family and Zionist organizations have gone after this website HARD with some really impressive law firms. IF there were anything that could be used to make the website organization "pay", it would not be here. They have been unsuccessful why? Because it's true? If it's a lie, they'd have been in court to have their lives stripped away, wouldn't they? Why are they STILL on the net? Why hasn't this information been REFUTED or forcibly removed by court order. It seems the answer is obvious.... Well, never mind. Stick your heads back in the sand and let the Zionists kick your stupid asses. You can't live where they live. YOU'RE not good enough. |
M/V "Dignity" RAMMED by Israeli Navy gunboat.
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... slide wrote in news:gjjgg2$398$1 @news.motzarella.org: I don't agree that the Jews are all right here. They demand an ethnically pure state which is the root of this problem. I don't see how Jews here in the US can bleat about how they feel sorry for Mex's sneaking in here and we need multiculturalism while they support pure ethnic identity in Israel. Sure, the Arabs will maybe some day be a large voting block in Israel - tough **** on the Jews. So they need to accommodate non-Jews in their politics. Once the US was pretty much all white & the whites didn't need to take into consideration the needs or desires of non-whites. How many Jews in the US would back a return to those days? So here in the US we probably will survive a black president and damn it, time for the Jews to think that maybe a future PM of Israel will be an Arab. Jews in the US like to boast that they marched for integration in the US. OK, time for a few of those marches in Israel. The whole civil rights movement in the USA was started, funded and run, not by blacks like Martin Luther King, but by JEWS, Communist Jews trying to divide and conquer from within American Society. Zionism and Communism have a long paper trail back into Czarist Russia, where Zionist Jews pulled russia apart promoting Communism to bring Russia under their control.....financial control, just like the good ol' USA. There is a very interesting website...once you overcome your Zionist brainwashing you've been propagandized with all your lives...run by the very people Zionism has, so far, tried to silence that exposes, with documented historic facts, not ranting and raving. This will be attacked, as usual, as "conspiracy theory", a Zionist operative used with "anti-semitism" to stifle thought and debate on the subject. http://www.martinlutherking.org/ Click on the Civil Rights and Jews title or just go to: http://www.martinlutherking.org/ma-chapter18.html Ah, now were going to hear about KKK and David Duke from the Zionist watchdogs. But wait! David Duke is much older and wiser and much more subdued than the one you are supposed to have implanted in your mind. He's not the David Duke of 1962. Read Chapter 18 on this webpage of his book, "My Awakening". You're reading it for free so have little to lose. Notice the lack of sheets and burning crosses, now. You can't read this HISTORY in a Zionist-controlled US university, any more. Just take a look and open your mind. King's family and Zionist organizations have gone after this website HARD with some really impressive law firms. IF there were anything that could be used to make the website organization "pay", it would not be here. They have been unsuccessful why? Because it's true? If it's a lie, they'd have been in court to have their lives stripped away, wouldn't they? Why are they STILL on the net? Why hasn't this information been REFUTED or forcibly removed by court order. It seems the answer is obvious.... Well, never mind. Stick your heads back in the sand and let the Zionists kick your stupid asses. You can't live where they live. YOU'RE not good enough. Would you please take your racist sh*t somewhere else. This has no place on this newsgroup. It's disgusting. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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