On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:35:01 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:37:15 -0600, said:

Gaza is a prison in which women, children, and other innocent civilians
are forced to live.

That certainly qualifies as the stupidest statement of the year to date.

What's stupid? That there are innocent civilians in Gaza, or that it is
a prison? It seems to fit this definition:

1. A place where persons are confined, or restrained of
personal liberty; hence, a place or state o? confinement,
restraint, or safe custody.
[1913 Webster]

On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:00:33 -0600, wrote:

On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:35:01 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:37:15 -0600, said:

Gaza is a prison in which women, children, and other innocent civilians
are forced to live.

That certainly qualifies as the stupidest statement of the year to date.

What's stupid? That there are innocent civilians in Gaza, or that it is
a prison? It seems to fit this definition:

1. A place where persons are confined, or restrained of
personal liberty; hence, a place or state o? confinement,
restraint, or safe custody.
[1913 Webster]

Your use of that definition to apply to Gaza also means that the Earth
is a prison. After all, only a very few priveledged folks are allowed
to leave if they want to. The rest of us are confined to the Earth,
just like Gaza.

Steve

On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:00:33 -0600, wrote:

On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:35:01 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:37:15 -0600, said:

Gaza is a prison in which women, children, and other innocent civilians
are forced to live.

That certainly qualifies as the stupidest statement of the year to date.

What's stupid? That there are innocent civilians in Gaza, or that it is
a prison? It seems to fit this definition:

1. A place where persons are confined, or restrained of
personal liberty; hence, a place or state o? confinement,
restraint, or safe custody.
[1913 Webster]


Are they innocent? they elected Hamus an openly terrorist organization
who advocate the forcible eradication of Israel.

Is that really innocent?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:12:22 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:


Are they innocent? they elected Hamus an openly terrorist organization
who advocate the forcible eradication of Israel.

Is that really innocent?
Cheers,

The children did that?

On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 05:08:48 -0600, wrote:

On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:12:22 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:


Are they innocent? they elected Hamus an openly terrorist organization
who advocate the forcible eradication of Israel.

Is that really innocent?
Cheers,

The children did that?

Nope, the voters did that but as the "children" throw stones at
Israeli soldiers and otherwise do their best to incite the situation
how innocent can one consider them?

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 05:08:48 -0600, wrote:

On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:12:22 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:


Are they innocent? they elected Hamus an openly terrorist organization
who advocate the forcible eradication of Israel.

Is that really innocent?
Cheers,

The children did that?

Nope, the voters did that but as the "children" throw stones at
Israeli soldiers and otherwise do their best to incite the situation
how innocent can one consider them?

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


I consider the children mostly innocent. They do what most children do...
follow their role models' lead. I understand why the adults voted in Hamas;
Israel should have, could have, and should do more for the cause of peace,
but that does not excuse the indescriminate firing of rockets and the calls
for the descruction of Israel by the Hamas leadership. Both need to end.


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On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:44:17 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 05:08:48 -0600, wrote:

On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:12:22 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:


Are they innocent? they elected Hamus an openly terrorist organization
who advocate the forcible eradication of Israel.

Is that really innocent?
Cheers,

The children did that?

Nope, the voters did that but as the "children" throw stones at
Israeli soldiers and otherwise do their best to incite the situation
how innocent can one consider them?

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


I consider the children mostly innocent. They do what most children do...
follow their role models' lead. I understand why the adults voted in Hamas;
Israel should have, could have, and should do more for the cause of peace,
but that does not excuse the indescriminate firing of rockets and the calls
for the descruction of Israel by the Hamas leadership. Both need to end.

I wonder whether you would find the "child" who carried a bomb into
the restaurant where it exploded killing your wife/child/loved one so
innocent as you feel at the moment sitting safely at home watching the
T.V.

As far as the "cause of peace" it is somewhat difficult to have a
peace with folks who hate you, who's religion (and don't think that
the Palestinians aren't true believers) teaches them that outsiders,
infidels, have no rights and should be eradicated if they don't
convert.

To get an impression of Islamic beliefs understand that it is 1430 in
the Islamic calendar. Review Christian history for the mid 1400's A.D.
and it will give you a fairly accurate picture.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
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As far as the "cause of peace" it is somewhat difficult to have a
peace with folks who hate you, who's religion (and don't think that
the Palestinians aren't true believers) teaches them that outsiders,
infidels, have no rights and should be eradicated if they don't
convert.



It's not just Islam, it's ALL OF THEM! Every relgion on the planet has a
long history of genocide, proving beyond any shadow of a doubt there is no
"god" and certainly no "saviour" who's gonna swoop down and save...er,
ah....which group of religious murderers??

This superstitious phenomenon of the upper life forms may be the reason
life cycles through a few million years then suddenly commits suicide for
no apparent reason. There may a limit to how much "intelligence" life can
withstand before that "intelligence" becomes its own death sentence,
committing itself to self-destruction through the very death machines that
big brain has superstitiously invented to terminate its species.

5,500+ humans die each day over religion. How utterly stupid!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkGpO1lQrLY

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:44:17 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 05:08:48 -0600, wrote:

On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:12:22 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:


Are they innocent? they elected Hamus an openly terrorist organization
who advocate the forcible eradication of Israel.

Is that really innocent?
Cheers,

The children did that?

Nope, the voters did that but as the "children" throw stones at
Israeli soldiers and otherwise do their best to incite the situation
how innocent can one consider them?

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


I consider the children mostly innocent. They do what most children do...
follow their role models' lead. I understand why the adults voted in
Hamas;
Israel should have, could have, and should do more for the cause of peace,
but that does not excuse the indescriminate firing of rockets and the
calls
for the descruction of Israel by the Hamas leadership. Both need to end.

I wonder whether you would find the "child" who carried a bomb into
the restaurant where it exploded killing your wife/child/loved one so
innocent as you feel at the moment sitting safely at home watching the
T.V.

As far as the "cause of peace" it is somewhat difficult to have a
peace with folks who hate you, who's religion (and don't think that
the Palestinians aren't true believers) teaches them that outsiders,
infidels, have no rights and should be eradicated if they don't
convert.

To get an impression of Islamic beliefs understand that it is 1430 in
the Islamic calendar. Review Christian history for the mid 1400's A.D.
and it will give you a fairly accurate picture.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


I probably wouldn't but the child would be innocent and would have been used
by an adult. Children's brains are not sufficiently developed to guarantee
knowing right from wrong. That's why we don't as a rule execute kids.

It is difficult, as you say, but it's not impossible. I also believe that
most people, without regard to religion, would prefer peace and coexistence
to war and death. Islam is not a "violent" religion, any more than
Christianity or Judism.


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On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:12:22 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:


Are they innocent? they elected Hamus an openly terrorist organization
who advocate the forcible eradication of Israel.

Is that really innocent?
Cheers,

The children did that?


Yes. and those United States tanks and jets and helicopters are going to
kill a lot of them, now that the invasion of the Gaza Concentration Camp
has begun....

.....America now have even more innocent blood on its Zionist hands.