Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:44:37 -0600, wrote:

Their only alternative - as I see it - is to use a "final solution"
remedy on the Palestinians. They won't of course.
Allowing full integration will only cause a delayed destruction of
Israel, as the Palestinians will multiply like rabbits, and when their
numbers are large enough the will have their vengeance.
I don't see this ending until either every Palestinian or every
Israeli jew is dead.
Bleak, but there it is. Israel reminds me of those ancient
city-states where every citizen must also be a warrior.
The Palestinians were wronged decades ago, as were the Armenians,
the Serbs, the Croats, and any number of ethnic groups.
There is a blood lust involved that may take centuries to fade.
In the meantime, it's business as usual.


I don't agree that the Jews are all right here. They demand an
ethnically pure state which is the root of this problem. I don't see how
Jews here in the US can bleat about how they feel sorry for Mex's
sneaking in here and we need multiculturalism while they support pure
ethnic identity in Israel. Sure, the Arabs will maybe some day be a
large voting block in Israel - tough **** on the Jews. So they need to
accommodate non-Jews in their politics.

Once the US was pretty much all white & the whites didn't need to take
into consideration the needs or desires of non-whites. How many Jews in
the US would back a return to those days? So here in the US we probably
will survive a black president and damn it, time for the Jews to think
that maybe a future PM of Israel will be an Arab.

Jews in the US like to boast that they marched for integration in the
US. OK, time for a few of those marches in Israel.

slide wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:44:37 -0600, wrote:

Their only alternative - as I see it - is to use a "final solution"
remedy on the Palestinians. They won't of course.
Allowing full integration will only cause a delayed destruction of
Israel, as the Palestinians will multiply like rabbits, and when their
numbers are large enough the will have their vengeance.
I don't see this ending until either every Palestinian or every
Israeli jew is dead.
Bleak, but there it is. Israel reminds me of those ancient
city-states where every citizen must also be a warrior.
The Palestinians were wronged decades ago, as were the Armenians,
the Serbs, the Croats, and any number of ethnic groups.
There is a blood lust involved that may take centuries to fade.
In the meantime, it's business as usual.


I don't agree that the Jews are all right here. They demand an
ethnically pure state which is the root of this problem.

What makes you think that? 20% of legal Israeli citizens are Arab. What
problem has their been with them? A huge non-Israeli transient group of
mostly Arabs attempt to take advantage of the economic freedom and
vibrant economy of Israel. Those have been a problem because the suicide
terrorist who target innocent citizens sneak in among them. After many
different attempted solutions resulting in the death of many innocents
this group has been severely restricted, with good reason.

I don't see how
Jews here in the US can bleat about how they feel sorry for Mex's
sneaking in here and we need multiculturalism while they support pure
ethnic identity in Israel. Sure, the Arabs will maybe some day be a
large voting block in Israel - tough **** on the Jews. So they need to
accommodate non-Jews in their politics.

What makes you think they don't?

Stephen

On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:31:13 -0700, slide
wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:44:37 -0600, wrote:

Their only alternative - as I see it - is to use a "final solution"
remedy on the Palestinians. They won't of course.
Allowing full integration will only cause a delayed destruction of
Israel, as the Palestinians will multiply like rabbits, and when their
numbers are large enough the will have their vengeance.
I don't see this ending until either every Palestinian or every
Israeli jew is dead.
Bleak, but there it is. Israel reminds me of those ancient
city-states where every citizen must also be a warrior.
The Palestinians were wronged decades ago, as were the Armenians,
the Serbs, the Croats, and any number of ethnic groups.
There is a blood lust involved that may take centuries to fade.
In the meantime, it's business as usual.


I don't agree that the Jews are all right here. They demand an
ethnically pure state which is the root of this problem. I don't see how
Jews here in the US can bleat about how they feel sorry for Mex's
sneaking in here and we need multiculturalism while they support pure
ethnic identity in Israel. Sure, the Arabs will maybe some day be a
large voting block in Israel - tough **** on the Jews. So they need to
accommodate non-Jews in their politics.

Once the US was pretty much all white & the whites didn't need to take
into consideration the needs or desires of non-whites. How many Jews in
the US would back a return to those days? So here in the US we probably
will survive a black president and damn it, time for the Jews to think
that maybe a future PM of Israel will be an Arab.

Jews in the US like to boast that they marched for integration in the
US. OK, time for a few of those marches in Israel.

Though I can't disagree with anything you've said, I do think the
Israeli jews believe they will be slaughtered, or exiled from Israel
should they treat Palestinians like we in the U.S. treat Mexicans or
blacks. I'm not sure of that, but if were an Israeli I suspect I
would take that tack. Though we've been multicultural throughout our
history, there is plenty of opposition here in the U.S. to letting the
language aspect of multiculturalism bleed into everyday life. I get a
bit ****ed every time I'm asked to choose 1 or 2 on the phone.
Wouldn't think of moving to Mexico and conducting business on the
phone without speaking Spanish.
So I'm sure we agree on some things.
My support for the Palestinians dried up when Israel finally withdrew
from the occupied territories and I saw the result.
Not a damned thing changed.
Blood lust. Not too different than the other radical Muslims.
Except when I feel the lust myself - and I have - I take no sides.
These are just off the cuff remarks, and I may be wrong about much of
it, and since nobody pays for my opinions, that's what they're worth.
Nothing. But I do like to write them down now and then.
And hear others' opinions.

--Vic

wrote in message
news
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:22:17 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Justin C" wrote in message
.. .
In article lutions,
Capt. JG wrote:

[big snip]

that's the perception that's being generated by the Arab run news
agencies based in countries where the governments usually don't believe
Israel has a right to exist.

I don't think you'll find it's the *existence* of Israel that is the
problem, it's *where* it exists that is the cause of the trouble. For
example, if the Jews had, let's say, Rhode Island, I'm sure the
Palestinians and Jordanians would be quite happy but would you?

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.


I have no problem if they want Rhode Island. I've been to Rhode Island.
LOL

Yeah but then you have to find a new home for the mafia.



I guess I should stop watching reruns of the Soranos.


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"slide" wrote in message
...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:44:37 -0600, wrote:

Their only alternative - as I see it - is to use a "final solution"
remedy on the Palestinians. They won't of course.
Allowing full integration will only cause a delayed destruction of
Israel, as the Palestinians will multiply like rabbits, and when their
numbers are large enough the will have their vengeance.
I don't see this ending until either every Palestinian or every
Israeli jew is dead.
Bleak, but there it is. Israel reminds me of those ancient
city-states where every citizen must also be a warrior.
The Palestinians were wronged decades ago, as were the Armenians,
the Serbs, the Croats, and any number of ethnic groups.
There is a blood lust involved that may take centuries to fade.
In the meantime, it's business as usual.


I don't agree that the Jews are all right here. They demand an ethnically
pure state which is the root of this problem. I don't see how Jews here in
the US can bleat about how they feel sorry for Mex's sneaking in here and
we need multiculturalism while they support pure ethnic identity in
Israel. Sure, the Arabs will maybe some day be a large voting block in
Israel - tough **** on the Jews. So they need to accommodate non-Jews in
their politics.

Ethnically pure? Ummm.... I don't think so. There are many non-Jews who are
Israeli citizens. They may not have as much of an impact as do the ethnical
Jews, but they are part of the politics. They've also assimilated Ethiopians
and other ethnic minorities.

Once the US was pretty much all white & the whites didn't need to take
into consideration the needs or desires of non-whites. How many Jews in
the US would back a return to those days? So here in the US we probably
will survive a black president and damn it, time for the Jews to think
that maybe a future PM of Israel will be an Arab.

You're right. We'll survive Obama just fine. Do I detect a hint of
prejudice? Nah....

Jews in the US like to boast that they marched for integration in the US.
OK, time for a few of those marches in Israel.

That's already happening and has happened for years. I think you're under
the impression that it's monolithic culture. It isn't. Remember who
assassinated Rabin?

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On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 10:30:40 -0700, slide
wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:01:22 -0500, Marty wrote:


Especially as the elephant has stomped the 'lads' three times in a
row. Damn, if somebody punched my lights out every time I bothered him
I'd quit bothering, move to Saudi and get a job.


Does not work that way. The more Israel attacks the Palestinians the
more easily outfits like Hamas can recruit. When Israeli rockets kill 5
little girls who are sisters, those girls act as poster children to
motivate the next wave of suicide bombers.

Hamas isn't be hurt here. It's being helped.


I was really being a bit factious here as of course I realize that the
perfect method of recruiting is to have some martyrs to point to. The
attacks undoubtedly do cause waves of enlistments in the Hamas ranks.
Obviously, I suppose, as they use numbers of them as bombs - must have
spares.

Unfortunately the Israelis appear to have no other option. I don't
follow M. East politics much but didn't the Israelis agree to
negotiate some sort of peace scheme with the Palestinians?

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:31:13 -0700, slide
wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:44:37 -0600, wrote:

Their only alternative - as I see it - is to use a "final solution"
remedy on the Palestinians. They won't of course.
Allowing full integration will only cause a delayed destruction of
Israel, as the Palestinians will multiply like rabbits, and when their
numbers are large enough the will have their vengeance.
I don't see this ending until either every Palestinian or every
Israeli jew is dead.
Bleak, but there it is. Israel reminds me of those ancient
city-states where every citizen must also be a warrior.
The Palestinians were wronged decades ago, as were the Armenians,
the Serbs, the Croats, and any number of ethnic groups.
There is a blood lust involved that may take centuries to fade.
In the meantime, it's business as usual.


I don't agree that the Jews are all right here. They demand an
ethnically pure state which is the root of this problem. I don't see how
Jews here in the US can bleat about how they feel sorry for Mex's
sneaking in here and we need multiculturalism while they support pure
ethnic identity in Israel. Sure, the Arabs will maybe some day be a
large voting block in Israel - tough **** on the Jews. So they need to
accommodate non-Jews in their politics.

Once the US was pretty much all white & the whites didn't need to take
into consideration the needs or desires of non-whites. How many Jews in
the US would back a return to those days? So here in the US we probably
will survive a black president and damn it, time for the Jews to think
that maybe a future PM of Israel will be an Arab.

Jews in the US like to boast that they marched for integration in the
US. OK, time for a few of those marches in Israel.

But there large numbers of Arabs living and working inside Israel.
Wasn't one of the big complaints about the "wall" that it was "hard to
get to work"?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 22:25:51 GMT, Steve wrote:


On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:44:37 -0600, wrote:

On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 10:30:40 -0700, slide wrote:


Does not work that way. The more Israel attacks the Palestinians the
more easily outfits like Hamas can recruit. When Israeli rockets kill 5
little girls who are sisters, those girls act as poster children to
motivate the next wave of suicide bombers.

Hamas isn't be hurt here. It's being helped.

Israel has been fighting the same war, the same way, for 50 years. Slow
learners?

Israel's goal is to survive. All of their neighbors either are now or
have been in the recent past dedicated to Israel's destruction. Israel
is still around. So whatever they're doing is working and they should
keep doing it.

They're not doing anything worse than anyone else would do in their
situation. In fact, they've been showing great restraint compared to
what most would do in their situation.

I wonder what the US would do if Cuba started lauching hundreds of
missiles at Florida. Or what Russia would do to simply control
Chechnya even without armed provocation? Wait, we know that answer.

Steve

I was in the Air force when it appeared that Cuba might launch a
missile and I can tell you what the plan was. Eradicate them.

Whether Kennedy would have blinked or not no one knows but I was on a
SAC base and the B-52's were loaded and parked at the end of the
runway, with the crews aboard, and the Tankers were right behind them.
Flight crews restricted to the Base and the rest of us working 12/12.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

slide wrote in news:gjjgg2$398$1
@news.motzarella.org:

I don't agree that the Jews are all right here. They demand an
ethnically pure state which is the root of this problem. I don't see
how
Jews here in the US can bleat about how they feel sorry for Mex's
sneaking in here and we need multiculturalism while they support pure
ethnic identity in Israel. Sure, the Arabs will maybe some day be a
large voting block in Israel - tough **** on the Jews. So they need to
accommodate non-Jews in their politics.

Once the US was pretty much all white & the whites didn't need to take
into consideration the needs or desires of non-whites. How many Jews
in
the US would back a return to those days? So here in the US we
probably
will survive a black president and damn it, time for the Jews to think
that maybe a future PM of Israel will be an Arab.

Jews in the US like to boast that they marched for integration in the
US. OK, time for a few of those marches in Israel.



The whole civil rights movement in the USA was started, funded and run,
not by blacks like Martin Luther King, but by JEWS, Communist Jews
trying to divide and conquer from within American Society. Zionism and
Communism have a long paper trail back into Czarist Russia, where
Zionist Jews pulled russia apart promoting Communism to bring Russia
under their control.....financial control, just like the good ol' USA.

There is a very interesting website...once you overcome your Zionist
brainwashing you've been propagandized with all your lives...run by the
very people Zionism has, so far, tried to silence that exposes, with
documented historic facts, not ranting and raving. This will be
attacked, as usual, as "conspiracy theory", a Zionist operative used
with "anti-semitism" to stifle thought and debate on the subject.

http://www.martinlutherking.org/

Click on the Civil Rights and Jews title or just go to:
http://www.martinlutherking.org/ma-chapter18.html
Ah, now were going to hear about KKK and David Duke from the Zionist
watchdogs. But wait! David Duke is much older and wiser and much more
subdued than the one you are supposed to have implanted in your mind.
He's not the David Duke of 1962. Read Chapter 18 on this webpage of his
book, "My Awakening". You're reading it for free so have little to
lose. Notice the lack of sheets and burning crosses, now. You can't
read this HISTORY in a Zionist-controlled US university, any more. Just
take a look and open your mind.

King's family and Zionist organizations have gone after this website
HARD with some really impressive law firms. IF there were anything that
could be used to make the website organization "pay", it would not be
here. They have been unsuccessful why? Because it's true? If it's a
lie, they'd have been in court to have their lives stripped away,
wouldn't they? Why are they STILL on the net? Why hasn't this
information been REFUTED or forcibly removed by court order. It seems
the answer is obvious....

Well, never mind. Stick your heads back in the sand and let the
Zionists kick your stupid asses. You can't live where they live.
YOU'RE not good enough.

"Larry" wrote in message
...
slide wrote in news:gjjgg2$398$1
@news.motzarella.org:

I don't agree that the Jews are all right here. They demand an
ethnically pure state which is the root of this problem. I don't see
how
Jews here in the US can bleat about how they feel sorry for Mex's
sneaking in here and we need multiculturalism while they support pure
ethnic identity in Israel. Sure, the Arabs will maybe some day be a
large voting block in Israel - tough **** on the Jews. So they need to
accommodate non-Jews in their politics.

Once the US was pretty much all white & the whites didn't need to take
into consideration the needs or desires of non-whites. How many Jews
in
the US would back a return to those days? So here in the US we
probably
will survive a black president and damn it, time for the Jews to think
that maybe a future PM of Israel will be an Arab.

Jews in the US like to boast that they marched for integration in the
US. OK, time for a few of those marches in Israel.



The whole civil rights movement in the USA was started, funded and run,
not by blacks like Martin Luther King, but by JEWS, Communist Jews
trying to divide and conquer from within American Society. Zionism and
Communism have a long paper trail back into Czarist Russia, where
Zionist Jews pulled russia apart promoting Communism to bring Russia
under their control.....financial control, just like the good ol' USA.

There is a very interesting website...once you overcome your Zionist
brainwashing you've been propagandized with all your lives...run by the
very people Zionism has, so far, tried to silence that exposes, with
documented historic facts, not ranting and raving. This will be
attacked, as usual, as "conspiracy theory", a Zionist operative used
with "anti-semitism" to stifle thought and debate on the subject.

http://www.martinlutherking.org/

Click on the Civil Rights and Jews title or just go to:
http://www.martinlutherking.org/ma-chapter18.html
Ah, now were going to hear about KKK and David Duke from the Zionist
watchdogs. But wait! David Duke is much older and wiser and much more
subdued than the one you are supposed to have implanted in your mind.
He's not the David Duke of 1962. Read Chapter 18 on this webpage of his
book, "My Awakening". You're reading it for free so have little to
lose. Notice the lack of sheets and burning crosses, now. You can't
read this HISTORY in a Zionist-controlled US university, any more. Just
take a look and open your mind.

King's family and Zionist organizations have gone after this website
HARD with some really impressive law firms. IF there were anything that
could be used to make the website organization "pay", it would not be
here. They have been unsuccessful why? Because it's true? If it's a
lie, they'd have been in court to have their lives stripped away,
wouldn't they? Why are they STILL on the net? Why hasn't this
information been REFUTED or forcibly removed by court order. It seems
the answer is obvious....

Well, never mind. Stick your heads back in the sand and let the
Zionists kick your stupid asses. You can't live where they live.
YOU'RE not good enough.



Would you please take your racist sh*t somewhere else. This has no place on
this newsgroup. It's disgusting.


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