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"Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message ... "Janet O'Leary" wrote in message ... Anyone know the cost (approximately) of having a yard install a bow roller and electric/manual windless to a 38 foot boat? SWAG - $150/hour x 5 ? This whole thing is a troll. Who has ever seen a 38' sailboat without a bow roller? |
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"Edgar" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message ... "Janet O'Leary" wrote in message ... Anyone know the cost (approximately) of having a yard install a bow roller and electric/manual windless to a 38 foot boat? SWAG - $150/hour x 5 ? This whole thing is a troll. Who has ever seen a 38' sailboat without a bow roller? Never. Fool me once.... shame on you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again. LOL -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... Never. Fool me once.... shame on you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again. LOL -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Thank you, Mr. President. :-D |
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wrote in message ... "jlrogers±³©" wrote: Anyone know the cost (approximately) of having a yard install a bow roller and electric/manual windless to a 38 foot boat? There is zero point in installing a manual windlass IMHO. It's just as heavy, just as big a line-snagger & toe-breaker, and will be slow & awkward getting the anchor aboard. It's better than nothing, but just barely. An electric windlass worth getting is going to be $2K plus, so you can figure boat yard installation will be in the neighborhood of 2X and up. I put a windlass in by myself, it's not difficult. Fresh Breezes- Doug King Agreed, especially since a 38' boat may carry a 45# CQR plus a good deal of chain. If there is already a manual windlass installed on an older boat, and it's been used and maintained, replacing it with an electric windlass would be an option/judgment call. But with none onboard already, electric would definitely be the way to go. |
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:54:29 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote: with none onboard already, electric would definitely be the way to go. The ideal solution is electric with a provision for manual backup. Unfortunately windlasses do fail from time to time just like any other piece of electro-mechanical equipment. It is important to have some alternative for getting the anchor up if necessary, especially important if you have a heavy anchor with an all chain rode. On a 50 footer with a properly sized anchor and all chain rode it is virtually impossible to bring up the ground tackle by hand. I carry a come-along rated at 3,000 lbs for that kind of emergency: http://toolmonger.com/wp-content/upl...able_large.jpg They are readily available at Lowes and Home Depot for reasonable prices. |
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:09:19 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:54:29 -0600, "KLC Lewis" wrote: with none onboard already, electric would definitely be the way to go. The ideal solution is electric with a provision for manual backup. Unfortunately windlasses do fail from time to time just like any other piece of electro-mechanical equipment. It is important to have some alternative for getting the anchor up if necessary, especially important if you have a heavy anchor with an all chain rode. On a 50 footer with a properly sized anchor and all chain rode it is virtually impossible to bring up the ground tackle by hand. I carry a come-along rated at 3,000 lbs for that kind of emergency: http://toolmonger.com/wp-content/upl...able_large.jpg They are readily available at Lowes and Home Depot for reasonable prices. Though the come-along shown might be good, be careful about quality. Cheapos are prone to breaking/bending, especially the handles. I'd prefer an "industrial" version. A 40-80 year old heavy sucker found at a flea market or garage sale might be the ticket. --Vic |
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:27:12 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: The ideal solution is electric with a provision for manual backup. Unfortunately windlasses do fail from time to time just like any other piece of electro-mechanical equipment. It is important to have some alternative for getting the anchor up if necessary, especially important if you have a heavy anchor with an all chain rode. On a 50 footer with a properly sized anchor and all chain rode it is virtually impossible to bring up the ground tackle by hand. I carry a come-along rated at 3,000 lbs for that kind of emergency: http://toolmonger.com/wp-content/upl...able_large.jpg They are readily available at Lowes and Home Depot for reasonable prices. Though the come-along shown might be good, be careful about quality. Cheapos are prone to breaking/bending, especially the handles. I'd prefer an "industrial" version. A 40-80 year old heavy sucker found at a flea market or garage sale might be the ticket. I'm sure you are right for heavy duty usage, but for my purposes the cheapo gets used so infrequently that it will probably last forever. |
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Thank you Mr. President (was Adding bow roller and other thoughts)
"KLC Lewis" wrote in message et... "Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... Never. Fool me once.... shame on you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again. LOL -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Thank you, Mr. President. :-D Ha ha, good one, Karin. But . . . "President no more! Haven't you heard? Gaynze got fired... Got his wittle butt kicked right out the door. http://www.sailsea.org/ Be sure to read the whole thing, (it's a riot) be sure to expand (open button) the letters towards the bottom and read them too. Once a netkop always a netkop. Wilbur Hubbard |
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Thank you Mr. President (was Adding bow roller and other thoughts)
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "KLC Lewis" wrote in message et... "Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... Never. Fool me once.... shame on you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again. LOL -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Thank you, Mr. President. :-D Ha ha, good one, Karin. But . . . "President no more! Haven't you heard? Gaynze got fired... Got his wittle butt kicked right out the door. http://www.sailsea.org/ Be sure to read the whole thing, (it's a riot) be sure to expand (open button) the letters towards the bottom and read them too. Once a netkop always a netkop. Wilbur Hubbard Did you see the other recent discussions about the same thing? Somebody else stoled your thunder. Cheers, Gwen Ives |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et... "Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... Never. Fool me once.... shame on you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again. LOL -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Thank you, Mr. President. :-D Har.. I was thinking a combination of Bush and The Who. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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