"Janet O'Leary" wrote in message
...
Hello again; women haters, know it alls, never owned but
full of advice, and then there are the nuts/bolts/screws.. all loose..

And of course,, The Hubbard ... question; how many Hubbards are there?

This is your assignment ::

You have been given a Sabre 28. Model year 1976..

The boat is in ok shape... Hull sound, deck sound .. basic equipment ..

You have xxxx to spend.. think?? at least $15,000 ..

What equipment will you replace, add, get, .. etc ??

My list so far :: and remember, this comes from a Barnes and Noble book
..

Replace the standing and running rigging .. add two self tailing winches
.. upgrade the
anchor and anchor equipment .. sails .. furling for jib.. [ maybe, the
book says the
furling systems don't work the sail very well and a second smaller jib
will sail the boat better ]

What stuff would you EXPERTS get ..

The windvane steerer? Or electric stuff ?

what about engine upgrades ?/ batteries? solar/wind power ?



Nobody gives Wilbur Hubbard an "assignment." However, if you're smart
you'll listen to the best advice you're going to get in this forum.

Don't buy anything until you NEED to buy something. Rid yourself of your
female shop until you drop mentality.

Here's what you need to do.

1) Give the boat a good cleaning inside and out. Inspect everything real
good while you clean and polish.
2) Move aboard and attempt to stow all the unnecessary crap that most women
feel they can't live without.
3) Put the remaining 90% that won't fit into storage.
4) Stock up on food and make sure your stove has plenty of fuel.
5) Then learn how to sail the boat.
6) Start a list of things that are broken, don't work well enough to suit
your needs, are worn to a dangerous or unserviceable point, etc. Buy all the
Coast Guard required safety things like life jackets, flares etc.
7) Replace things as needed depending upon how and where you cruise and
anchor.
8) If you don't have a nice little rowing dinghy you need to buy one. For
you a Walker Bay 8 would probably be just the ticket. Avoid inflatables as
they tend to get a flat tire at the worst of times and you can't row the
dammed things in anything but a flat calm even when they don't have a flat.
9) Make sure you have no fewer than three serviceable anchors and rodes.
Learn how to use them properly.
10) Buy a new GPS if the boat doesn't already have one. Get the kind that
displays a chart.

In other words don't go out and spend 15 grand just for the sake of spending
fifteen grand. Wait until you learn enough to spend it on things you really
need. And to discover what you really need you must first use the boats as
you intend to use it.

Oh, and don't listen to the others who responded. They can't see the forest
through the trees. Few, if any, are long term, liveaboard cruisers like me.

Wilbur Hubbard

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

Don't buy anything until you NEED to buy something. Rid yourself of your
female shop until you drop mentality.

Here's what you need to do.

1) Give the boat a good cleaning inside and out. Inspect everything real
good while you clean and polish.
2) Move aboard and attempt to stow all the unnecessary crap that most
women feel they can't live without.
3) Put the remaining 90% that won't fit into storage.
4) Stock up on food and make sure your stove has plenty of fuel.
5) Then learn how to sail the boat.
6) Start a list of things that are broken, don't work well enough to suit
your needs, are worn to a dangerous or unserviceable point, etc. Buy all
the Coast Guard required safety things like life jackets, flares etc.
7) Replace things as needed depending upon how and where you cruise and
anchor.
8) If you don't have a nice little rowing dinghy you need to buy one. For
you a Walker Bay 8 would probably be just the ticket. Avoid inflatables as
they tend to get a flat tire at the worst of times and you can't row the
dammed things in anything but a flat calm even when they don't have a
flat.
9) Make sure you have no fewer than three serviceable anchors and rodes.
Learn how to use them properly.
10) Buy a new GPS if the boat doesn't already have one. Get the kind that
displays a chart.

In other words don't go out and spend 15 grand just for the sake of
spending fifteen grand. Wait until you learn enough to spend it on things
you really need. And to discover what you really need you must first use
the boats as you intend to use it.

Oh, and don't listen to the others who responded. They can't see the
forest through the trees. Few, if any, are long term, liveaboard cruisers
like me.

Wilbur Hubbard



I would second most of Wilbur's advice, though you might have trouble
fitting a Walker Bay 8 on deck. Towing a dink is okay in protected waters,
but for any real passage-making, it should be properly stored on deck,
upside down where it can't hold water. You may, or may not, have the
available space on that boat where it will both fit and not hinder crew
movement. And, of course, I would have to dismiss the advice not to listen
to advice from other posters. And finally, what Wilbur considers
"unnecessary crap that women feel (we) can't do without" is more necessary
than he comprehends. We do have to remain women, after all.

KLC Lewis wrote:


I would second most of Wilbur's advice, though you might have trouble
fitting a Walker Bay 8 on deck. Towing a dink is okay in protected waters,
but for any real passage-making, it should be properly stored on deck,
upside down where it can't hold water. You may, or may not, have the
available space on that boat where it will both fit and not hinder crew
movement. And, of course, I would have to dismiss the advice not to listen
to advice from other posters. And finally, what Wilbur considers
"unnecessary crap that women feel (we) can't do without" is more necessary
than he comprehends. We do have to remain women, after all.




And bless you for it!

Richard wrote:
KLC Lewis wrote:



I would second most of Wilbur's advice, though you might have trouble
fitting a Walker Bay 8 on deck. Towing a dink is okay in protected
waters, but for any real passage-making, it should be properly stored
on deck, upside down where it can't hold water. You may, or may not,
have the available space on that boat where it will both fit and not
hinder crew movement. And, of course, I would have to dismiss the
advice not to listen to advice from other posters. And finally, what
Wilbur considers "unnecessary crap that women feel (we) can't do
without" is more necessary than he comprehends. We do have to remain
women, after all.



And bless you for it!
Over the last three seasons, I've been towing a dinghy in everything
from a flat calm to a force eight all over the English Channel and the
southern North Sea. On our 26' mid 60's yacht, there is nowhere to stow
even a tiny hard tender on deck so its tow, deflate and pack or do
without. Towing a hard tender is problematic as if it flips, you will
almost certainly have to cut it adrift (if the bow didn't pull off the
moment it swamped) Also you cannot bring it alongside to bail it in
rough water.

We tow a 10' hard bottommed Avon inflatable. I have a 100' floating
towline, (I usually use 5' to 15' but in bad weather off the wind you
have to give it a lot of slack or you'll get the tender on top of you in
the cockpit) with a drogue just in front of the tender that fills if the
tender is overtaking us, and a three part bridle with a swivel to attach
the tow line to which keeps the tender more or less streight under tow
and prevents tangles. There is minimum gear in the tender and what
there is is strapped in place.

Ive had to get into the tender underway to bail it two or three times
and had to hove to once to recover it when it flipped. Any of those
occasions would have probably been the loss of a hard tender. I fully
expect to loose this tender sooner or later.

For an inflatable it rows quite well. You wouldn't do so for sport, but
a mile or so to get to the pub and back is no problem as it has good
quality two part oars and decent rowlocks unlike most inflatables.

If I was off on a passage of over 24 hours I would consider stowing it,
and if going blue water I'd definately stow it but towing a well chosen
dink is a lot less hassle than many people will tell you.