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Default Replace? Add? Fix? Want? .. the Put On's

Ah yes, more fun'n games. This is what the internet is for, isn't it?

"Janet O'Leary" wrote
This is your assignment ::


You have been given a Sabre 28. *Model year 1976..


The boat is in ok shape... Hull sound, deck sound .. basic equipment ..



"Basic equipment" like what? Boats are not like cars in having
"standard equipmet" packages.
If you mean that the boat is more or less as it came from the factory,
then it will need a pretty long list of stuff before it's suitable for
coastal cruising.


You have xxxx to spend.. *think?? * at least $15,000 ..
What equipment will you replace, add, get, .. *etc ??
My list so far :: *and remember, this comes from a Barnes and Noble book


My first suggestion would be to go to a sailing club or marina and
walk the docks, talk to some real sailors.

Replace the standing and running rigging ..


You could probably spend the whole $15k just on that alone. I'd
suggest not replacing the standing rigging unless you have a good
reason to, and that's one of the survey items that will come off the
top of the purchase price. Running rigging does need periodic
replacement, and it's also not a "standard" list either. How you
intend to use the boat, and to some extent your own style of sailing,
will dictate the best choice of which rigging to replace and what to
replace it with.

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...-RightLine.htm

Or

skip down to Part 4 "The Right Rope for the Job"
http://www.setsail.com/_storefiles/72.pdf


.....*add two self tailing winches
.. upgrade the
anchor and anchor equipment .. *sails .. *furling for jib.. [ maybe, the
book says the
furling systems don't work the sail very well and a second smaller jib
will sail the boat better ]


Again, that depends. Furling systems work just fine, people sail
around the world with them without trouble. OTOH there is certainly a
functional range for any given sail & furler.

Generally, people who don't like furlers tend to be curmudgeonly types
who formed their opinions 30+ years ago and have no experience with
modern furlers.

The windvane steerer? *


Unless you're going on long offshore passages, I would not bother with
a windvane.

what about engine upgrades ?/ *batteries? *solar/wind power ?


Electrical systems are a whole 'nother can o' worms.

If you're going to on opinions presented in books, go for a good one.
Get Nigel Calder's 'Cruising Handbook' and/or 'Boatowner's Mechanical
& Electrical Guide' very thorough references with good explanations.

"mmc" wrote:
Ha! Liked the start of your post! Pretty accurate.
From what I understand the hypothetical situation to be is "Sailor-person"
has a 1973 28' Sabre AND 15 "boat bucks"?
What I think "Sailor-person" should do is, through talking to some decent
middle of the road type (meaning somewhere between the crested blazer
wearing jerks and the bar clinging drunks) sailors, is find a reputable
surveyor and spend about 1/2 a boat buck for a solid evaluation of that
vessel and it's systems.


Ah, but this "sailor-person" has (apparently) already rejected that
good advice.

Once the ""Sailor-person" has the list of good and
bad things, that person should evalute the list and prioritize things to fix
and budget the repairs. The surveyor will probably help with a quick eval of
the worst or unsafe items needing immediate attention.
Could be I would vote for changing the rigging because mine needs new
rigging and not worrying about the engine because my engine has no problems.
Having never seen the boat and knowing nothing about it, my input on what to
fix/replace first is worth just what it would cost. Nada.


But you might have some good ideas about what to prioritize, in a
general way.

I would not blow my boat budget on recommendations from the books author
(there are a lot of furling system owners out there that would argue his
opinion) nor opinions of "screw loose, women hating Hubbards" on an NG.


I dunno if Wilbur H really "hates women" as much as he's just
unfamiliar with them and intimidated by them (the real thing, I mean).
And he's probably annoyed that he can't impersonate them more
successfully on the Internet. But hatred doesn't seem like his style.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King