Dave wrote:
Umm....I don't think so. You seem to be reading in something that's not
there.

OK, sorry.

My posts were about concealing facts, or outright misrepresentation,
to obtain a greater price from a buyer.

.... When I referred to the "psychological profile" I was speaking of the
profile of someone who gets his jollies from haggling, and the from relating
how he got the better of the party on the other side in a bargaining
session. We've occasionally seen the type here.

Why wouldn't we? The "set price" neurosis seems not to exist in most
of the world, whereas in the US many people seem to think it's totally
natural.

DSK

wrote in message
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"Janet O'Leary" wrote:
Rather than tell me I'm stupid .. how about you tell all of us what your
experience is.

Enough that I don't really care what you think.
How many boats have you bought and sold?
A lot... less than a hundred, more than a dozen.
.... When was the last time you bought a boat?
March 2008
Did you have a survey done?
On this particular one, no. On the one before, yes. And on several
efore that, going to about 1970-something
In other words... put up or shut up.
Really? Or else you'll.... what?

You forgot to ask animal, vegetable, or mineral. The methodical
approach is best in these things.

DSK


So,, you tell us you have bought "a lot" of boats.. but you fail to tell
us anything about any of them..

What make? Model? Length? Where do you moor/dock this mystery boat?
You are quick to tell me that you are an expert,, mr knows everything ..
but you don't tell us what the make, model, length,, of your boat is?

Huumm.... I'm doubting you have every owned even one boat. You sound like
a boat owner want a be.. A phoney..

Mr expert ... my ass..

You are a big pile of air..

Prove to us all that you own a boat .. show us the boat.. tell us the make,
model,, where you
dock her..

Come on mr smart guy.

"Janet O'Leary" wrote:

Huumm.... I'm doubting you have every owned even one boat. *

Doubt away. Why should I care? I don't know you, nor want to.
Meanwhile there are several participants in this forum whom I have met
in person, some have sailed on more than one of my boats.

The honest man (or woman) will tend to assume that others are
honest.... maybe there's a reason why you are so quick to assume
others are phoney?

DSK

"Janet O'Leary" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
"Janet O'Leary" wrote:
Rather than tell me I'm stupid .. how about you tell all of us what your
experience is.

Enough that I don't really care what you think.
How many boats have you bought and sold?
A lot... less than a hundred, more than a dozen.
.... When was the last time you bought a boat?
March 2008
Did you have a survey done?
On this particular one, no. On the one before, yes. And on several
efore that, going to about 1970-something
In other words... put up or shut up.
Really? Or else you'll.... what?

You forgot to ask animal, vegetable, or mineral. The methodical
approach is best in these things.

DSK


So,, you tell us you have bought "a lot" of boats.. but you fail to tell
us anything about any of them..

What make? Model? Length? Where do you moor/dock this mystery boat?
You are quick to tell me that you are an expert,, mr knows everything ..
but you don't tell us what the make, model, length,, of your boat is?

Huumm.... I'm doubting you have every owned even one boat. You sound like
a boat owner want a be.. A phoney..

Mr expert ... my ass..

You are a big pile of air..

Prove to us all that you own a boat .. show us the boat.. tell us the
make, model,, where you
dock her..

Come on mr smart guy.


Ouch! A woman scorned . . .

You're wrong on this one Ms. O'Leary. Doug has owned and sailed lots of
boats. He hasn't really learned much of anything in the process but he does
sail. His sailing at the present time is aboard an ugly, pollution spewing
trawler - sailing in the "navigating upon the water" sense, not sailing as
in using sails for propulsion. He's gotten out of the sailboat game. I
think he got too old and lazy to do much of anything but sit in a pilot
house, fiddle with the autopilot, drink beer and make big wakes. (So rude!)

At any rate, he's more of a motor head these days than a sailor. His advice
would be mostly outdated as it's probably been five or six years or more
since he's owned a sailboat. If memory serves, the sailboats he's owned were
on the smallish side and daysailers rather than cruisers. He's even done
some dinghy racing, I think. The winner's circle seems to have evaded him,
however.

Wilbur Hubbard

"Janet O'Leary" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
"Janet O'Leary" wrote:
Rather than tell me I'm stupid .. how about you tell all of us what your
experience is.

Enough that I don't really care what you think.
How many boats have you bought and sold?
A lot... less than a hundred, more than a dozen.
.... When was the last time you bought a boat?
March 2008
Did you have a survey done?
On this particular one, no. On the one before, yes. And on several
efore that, going to about 1970-something
In other words... put up or shut up.
Really? Or else you'll.... what?

You forgot to ask animal, vegetable, or mineral. The methodical
approach is best in these things.

DSK


So,, you tell us you have bought "a lot" of boats.. but you fail to tell
us anything about any of them..

What make? Model? Length? Where do you moor/dock this mystery boat?
You are quick to tell me that you are an expert,, mr knows everything ..
but you don't tell us what the make, model, length,, of your boat is?

Huumm.... I'm doubting you have every owned even one boat. You sound like
a boat owner want a be.. A phoney..

Mr expert ... my ass..

You are a big pile of air..

Prove to us all that you own a boat .. show us the boat.. tell us the
make, model,, where you
dock her..

Come on mr smart guy.



He doesn't have to prove anything. I know Doug and he's the real deal.



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:40:53 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

wrote in message
news
On 24 Nov 2008 16:22:01 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:51:18 GMT, "Janet O'Leary"
said:

I have only been looking for a short time, but every boat I have looked
at,
and the many folks I have asked for help .. have all assured me that
if the seller wants. or has any interest at all in selling his/her
boat,
then
the seller must work with the buyer..

If I priced a boat appraised at $15,000 and obviously sound and in
decent
shape at $10, and told you I wasn't interested in haggling, would you
walk
away?

I'll give you 5



I'll give you $5.50 to not buy it. LOL

Deal!


The check is in the mail. Maybe Dave will try and sell a bridge soon?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Janet O'Leary" wrote in message
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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:40:05 -0500, said:

That is the way it's generally done. However, if I were selling a boat
I'd
tell the buyer at the outset that the agreed price is the price
regardless
of what a survey finds. If he doesn't like the survey he can cancel the
contract, but there will be no renegotiation of the price.

In this market, you'll have that boat until it gets sold as part of
your estate.

Nonsense. There are people who don't have the psychological profile of
the
merchant in a Middle Eastern bazaar. Even in this market.

Dave, although I am not as expert as you ,, what you write is totally
not true, at least in the market we find ourselves in today.

I have only been looking for a short time, but every boat I have looked
at,
and the many folks I have asked for help .. have all assured me that
if the seller wants. or has any interest at all in selling his/her boat,
then
the seller must work with the buyer..

I don't know where you live but here in Florida, there are thousands of
boats for sale and very few buyers.

Florida? Your IP number says you posted from Keene, New Hampshire.

Wilbur Hubbard

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

"Janet O'Leary" wrote in message
...

why thank you wayne, for your advice.. now go ...

you sound like some of the men around here, dumb, fat, and loud.


Janet, please take this in the spirit in which it is offered: Wayne gave
you good advice. So did Wilbur, TMT, JGanz and others who escape my
memory. As I am not a "person of penis," perhaps you will accept my
advice. :-)

The survey is for the buyer's protection. As a buyer, the last thing in
the world that you want is for the seller to have anything whatsoever to
do with that survey. If the seller pays even one penny of the survey
expense, the surveyor is working for two people who have conflicting
interests. The seller wants the surveyor to find nothing wrong with the
boat. The buyer wants to find out every little thing that is going to cost
money to fix or replace.

Good luck with your search,
Karin


Psssssst! Karin, Ms. O'Leary may not be what "she" seems. For one, "she"
claims to be looking at boats in Florida but "her" posts originate from New
Hampshire. Her prose seems to have some testosterone at the core.

Wilbur Hubbard

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
ions...
"Janet O'Leary" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
"Janet O'Leary" wrote:
Rather than tell me I'm stupid .. how about you tell all of us what your
experience is.

Enough that I don't really care what you think.
How many boats have you bought and sold?
A lot... less than a hundred, more than a dozen.
.... When was the last time you bought a boat?
March 2008
Did you have a survey done?
On this particular one, no. On the one before, yes. And on several
efore that, going to about 1970-something
In other words... put up or shut up.
Really? Or else you'll.... what?

You forgot to ask animal, vegetable, or mineral. The methodical
approach is best in these things.

DSK


So,, you tell us you have bought "a lot" of boats.. but you fail to tell
us anything about any of them..

What make? Model? Length? Where do you moor/dock this mystery boat?
You are quick to tell me that you are an expert,, mr knows everything ..
but you don't tell us what the make, model, length,, of your boat is?

Huumm.... I'm doubting you have every owned even one boat. You sound
like
a boat owner want a be.. A phoney..

Mr expert ... my ass..

You are a big pile of air..

Prove to us all that you own a boat .. show us the boat.. tell us the
make, model,, where you
dock her..

Come on mr smart guy.



He doesn't have to prove anything. I know Doug and he's the real deal.
--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



Oh no! I'm disappointed to learn that Doug is gay.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:08:34 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

He doesn't have to prove anything. I know Doug and he's the real deal.


And I'll second that.

I'm beginning to wonder how real our friend Janet is however. "She"
seems a bit too confrontational for a woman seeking advice. Perhaps
things are not what they seem.