Actually, I redid the galley in this boat and total outlay of time was about
60 hours, total cost about $500. I like to think in terms of simplicity and
frugality. Most of the woodwork I got by scrounging around the used wood
recycling depot here in town. It's not Hinckley quality, but it serves the
purpose just fine. My standards are set extremely low. Have a look here if
you like:

http://www.members.shaw.ca/dbasement...ics/index.html

I don't particularly want something polished. Comfy is fine. I just don't
have any ideas for the redo.

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
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Bob S. wrote:

Perhaps I should clarify.

Mostly I'm looking for ideas. Models or pictures of boat interiors that
work. Places to start. I know most of the structure, what I can remove
and what I can't.

For instance: The dinette is this monstrous 6 seater that takes up about
50% of the salon. Big, stuffy, moldy cushions that fold down into a bed.
I've thought about tearing it out and replacing it with a couple of comfy
chairs that would fold out to a bed. I'll never see more than 2, maybe 4
people on the boat and this huge, ugly mass has to go. Problem is, I
need some ideas on what it could look like.

"Bob S." wrote in message
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I have a 1972 Fraser fibreglass sailboat. The interior is huge and has
potential, the mechanics all work, but the interior is from 1972 also.
The layout is just so wrong. I have hit a wall. I know I want to gut
the interior, I just don't know where to start or where to go from here.
I don't want to spend a great deal of money, so would rather not hire a
shipwright.

Please any ideas could help me.



Have you done much boat building before, Bob?
If so, you'd know how much time, effort, and money are involved in a
project like this.

If you do, and are really just looking for ideas, head down to Half
Price Books and see what you can find in the transportation section.

Richard
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Now just why the HELL do I have to press 1 for English?
John Wayne

wrote:
A good place to start would be the library / book store. Consider
'Fiberglass Boats' by Hugo Du Plessis or 'Upgrading the Cruising
Sailboat' by Dan Spurr.

If you're truly going to 'gut' the interior, and you don't want to
spend a lot of time, stop. No point in proceeding. If you've got 6
months of 8 hour days, it's likely a matter of removing all of the
interior fittings, plumbing, joinery (cabinetry), tanks, electrical
wiring and devices, etc. It's unlikely you'll be able to reposition
the engine, but this would be a good time to consider re-powering
(especially if the engine is from '72) which may also mean
reconfiguring the engine bed (motor mounts),

With all of this removed, you'll likely be down to full (structural)
and partial bulkheads - probably plywood - which have been 'tabbed'
onto the hull with a layer or two of fiberglass strips. If done
properly, the bulkheads actually rest on a foam /balsa beveled spacer
(see Du Plessis) that prevents the bulkhead from forming a 'hard spot'
where it contacts the hull.

Now comes the fun part. With a large grinder equipped with a sanding
pad and 24 grit paper and you wearing eye, ear and lung protection,
grind away at the junction of the bulkhead and hull-side (carefully)
to cut away the tabbing, thus freeing the bulkhead for removal.

If it's a structural bulkhead (one that is attached to all points of
the hull and cabin / house) consider adding temporary bracing fore and
aft of this bulkhead prior to its removal.

If the hull is cored above the W/L, it's likely balsa (...'72) which
should be inspected for water ingress / rot.

Good Luck.

Mike Worrall
Los angeles

Having just gutted a galley down to the bare hull, can I suggest using
a cut off wheel in the grinder to cut through the tabbing into the
plywood? Lasts a lot longer than a 24 grit disc. After removing the
bulkhead and as much tabbing as possible (polyester tabbing peels
easily with a chisel, THEN you go at it with the 24 grit disc to
smooth out the hull.

But Bob, it sounds like it's just the dinette that is troubling right
now. Looking at it, it seems like the galley opposite is the limiting
factor; you aren't going to have a 2 seat armchair arrangement AND
somewhere to eat by converting that dinette AND leaving the galley
alone. The galley should be left alone (no need to redo good work) -
but you're really stuck with a relatively small amount of room in to
work with in the dinette area.

Maybe getting rid of the mouldy cushions and replacing them with new
ones that have some leg support (fuller at the knee) and angle to the
back cushions would make it a lot more comfortable. It would be tough
to sell a 42' boat down the road with 2 convertible chairs and dinner
seating for only 4.

Maybe start with Beneteau's interiors on their web site (though most
will be beamier than your boat). Lots of different size boats, maybe
you'll get inspired there. Hit the library for a bunch of books on
yacht interiors. Dan Spurr's book on boat interiors, Bob Perry's
collected Sailing magazine reviews... I think in your case, pictures
may help more than interior plan layouts.

Evan Gatehouse