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Polyester vs Epoxy resin for dinghy/kayak construction?
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message ... wrote: What are the relative merits of polyester resin vs epoxy resin? Trying to compare polyester and woven roving to epoxy and knitted glass is like trying to compare oranges and apples. Both are "fiberglass" laminates, but the similarity ends there. About the best you get is 35%glass/65%resin using woven roving, mat, and polyester. OTOH, it is quite common to get a 50%glass/50%resin using knitted glass and epoxy. This laminate does not require any mat. Bottom line.................... Polyester/roving produces a rather brittle, heavy laminate. Epoxy/knitted glass produces a more ductile, lighter weight laminate. Pound for pound, polyester and woven roving cost less per pound, but you use more pounds, so the cost differences tend to disappear. Epoxy, knitted glass and a 1/2" Airex foam core would produce a very light weight, bullet proof, dinghy or kayak. Just remember three things. 1)You will buy a commercial dinghy for less money than you will spend to build one. 2)You build one because you want to do it. 3)Once you use epoxy and knitted glass, you will never consider polyester again. I have never actually built anything with fg, but have done numerous repairs. I have always used woven cloth with epoxy, and haven't heard the term "knitted" before. A google search showed it was the same as unidirection fabric. Is that correct, or is knitted something else? |
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Polyester vs Epoxy resin for dinghy/kayak construction?
"Toller" wrote: I have never actually built anything with fg, but have done numerous repairs. I have always used woven cloth with epoxy, and haven't heard the term "knitted" before. A google search showed it was the same as unidirection fabric. Is that correct, or is knitted something else? Woven fabric looks like a burlap bag, a very coarse weave. Knitted fabric looks like suit fabric, very fine, tightly knitted fabric. Do a Google for Knytex, then DB170. That will get you to a double bias (+/-45), 17 oz/sq yard material. It is about all I use these days. There are also what are known as "Uni" fabrics which have the fiber oriented either 0 or 90 degrees to the run of the roll. Lew |
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Polyester vs Epoxy resin for dinghy/kayak construction?
Knitted glass consists of two or more layers of unidirectional glass which
are knitted together. It's available with the glass at 0 and 90 degrees and with the glass at +-45 degrees. It is less expensive per pound than glasss fabric. Because the fibers are not crimped by weaving, it's stronger and, for a given glass content, thinner and therefore it needs less epoxy to fill. So, for structural purposes, it's superior to mat & roving and to cloth. It often does not finish as smooth as cloth, so a top laminate of cloth is a good way to finish . "Toller" wrote in message ... "Lew Hodgett" wrote in message ... wrote: What are the relative merits of polyester resin vs epoxy resin? Trying to compare polyester and woven roving to epoxy and knitted glass is like trying to compare oranges and apples. Both are "fiberglass" laminates, but the similarity ends there. About the best you get is 35%glass/65%resin using woven roving, mat, and polyester. OTOH, it is quite common to get a 50%glass/50%resin using knitted glass and epoxy. This laminate does not require any mat. Bottom line.................... Polyester/roving produces a rather brittle, heavy laminate. Epoxy/knitted glass produces a more ductile, lighter weight laminate. Pound for pound, polyester and woven roving cost less per pound, but you use more pounds, so the cost differences tend to disappear. Epoxy, knitted glass and a 1/2" Airex foam core would produce a very light weight, bullet proof, dinghy or kayak. Just remember three things. 1)You will buy a commercial dinghy for less money than you will spend to build one. 2)You build one because you want to do it. 3)Once you use epoxy and knitted glass, you will never consider polyester again. I have never actually built anything with fg, but have done numerous repairs. I have always used woven cloth with epoxy, and haven't heard the term "knitted" before. A google search showed it was the same as unidirection fabric. Is that correct, or is knitted something else? |
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