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Polyester vs Epoxy resin for dinghy/kayak construction?
I am planning to build a hard dodger for my sailboat. I'm fairly mechanically skilled, and accustomed to working with my hands, but have never worked with fiberglass repair/construction. So I'm planning to make a dinghy or kayak before I make the dodger, to gain some experience. So far I like the Foamee Glen-L dinghy, it's a foam and fiberglass construction, which I like because of the fair lines (good for dodger). Search the 'net for links, I'm not promoting it.. Two questions.. What are the relative merits of polyester resin vs epoxy resin? Any recommendations on other dingy plans or kayak plans which have smooth lines instead of the hard corners seen with plywood construction? Thanks, -Koos |
Polyester vs Epoxy resin for dinghy/kayak construction?
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Polyester vs Epoxy resin for dinghy/kayak construction?
On Aug 20, 1:01 pm, Paul Oman wrote:
wrote: I am planning to build a hard dodger for my sailboat. I'm fairly mechanically skilled, and accustomed to working with my hands, but have never worked with fiberglass repair/construction. So I'm planning to make a dinghy or kayak before I make the dodger, to gain some experience. So far I like the Foamee Glen-L dinghy, it's a foam and fiberglass construction, which I like because of the fair lines (good for dodger). Search the 'net for links, I'm not promoting it.. Two questions.. What are the relative merits of polyester resin vs epoxy resin? Any recommendations on other dingy plans or kayak plans which have smooth lines instead of the hard corners seen with plywood construction? Thanks, -Koos Epoxy resins don't dissolve foam but I believe polyester resins do. Your options would seem to be a small boat or a puddle of foam goo. paul oman progressive epoxy polymers Very good! That's helps me with that question. Anyone with suggestions on alternate plans, dinghy or kayak with smooth lines? Thanks, -Koos. |
Polyester vs Epoxy resin for dinghy/kayak construction?
On Aug 20, 1:31 pm, wrote:
On Aug 20, 1:01 pm, Paul Oman wrote: wrote: I am planning to build a hard dodger for my sailboat. I'm fairly mechanically skilled, and accustomed to working with my hands, but have never worked with fiberglass repair/construction. So I'm planning to make a dinghy or kayak before I make the dodger, to gain some experience. So far I like the Foamee Glen-L dinghy, it's a foam and fiberglass construction, which I like because of the fair lines (good for dodger). Search the 'net for links, I'm not promoting it.. Two questions.. What are the relative merits of polyester resin vs epoxy resin? Any recommendations on other dingy plans or kayak plans which have smooth lines instead of the hard corners seen with plywood construction? Thanks, -Koos Epoxy resins don't dissolve foam but I believe polyester resins do. Your options would seem to be a small boat or a puddle of foam goo. paul oman progressive epoxy polymers Very good! That's helps me with that question. Anyone with suggestions on alternate plans, dinghy or kayak with smooth lines? Thanks, -Koos.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I use this site for info on constructions methods for my outrigger canoe project. He has a few plywood kayak designs. http://oneoceankayaks.com/stitchglue/stitchkayaks.htm |
Polyester vs Epoxy resin for dinghy/kayak construction?
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What are the relative merits of polyester resin vs epoxy resin? Trying to compare polyester and woven roving to epoxy and knitted glass is like trying to compare oranges and apples. Both are "fiberglass" laminates, but the similarity ends there. About the best you get is 35%glass/65%resin using woven roving, mat, and polyester. OTOH, it is quite common to get a 50%glass/50%resin using knitted glass and epoxy. This laminate does not require any mat. Bottom line.................... Polyester/roving produces a rather brittle, heavy laminate. Epoxy/knitted glass produces a more ductile, lighter weight laminate. Pound for pound, polyester and woven roving cost less per pound, but you use more pounds, so the cost differences tend to disappear. Epoxy, knitted glass and a 1/2" Airex foam core would produce a very light weight, bullet proof, dinghy or kayak. Just remember three things. 1)You will buy a commercial dinghy for less money than you will spend to build one. 2)You build one because you want to do it. 3)Once you use epoxy and knitted glass, you will never consider polyester again. Lew |
Polyester vs Epoxy resin for dinghy/kayak construction?
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What are the relative merits of polyester resin vs epoxy resin? Trying to compare polyester and woven roving to epoxy and knitted glass is like trying to compare oranges and apples. Both are "fiberglass" laminates, but the similarity ends there. About the best you get is 35%glass/65%resin using woven roving, mat, and polyester. OTOH, it is quite common to get a 50%glass/50%resin using knitted glass and epoxy. This laminate does not require any mat. Bottom line.................... Polyester/roving produces a rather brittle, heavy laminate. Epoxy/knitted glass produces a more ductile, lighter weight laminate. Pound for pound, polyester and woven roving cost less per pound, but you use more pounds, so the cost differences tend to disappear. Epoxy, knitted glass and a 1/2" Airex foam core would produce a very light weight, bullet proof, dinghy or kayak. Just remember three things. 1)You will buy a commercial dinghy for less money than you will spend to build one. 2)You build one because you want to do it. 3)Once you use epoxy and knitted glass, you will never consider polyester again. Lew |
Polyester vs Epoxy resin for dinghy/kayak construction?
Lew Hodgett wrote:
snip 3)Once you use epoxy and knitted glass, you will never consider polyester again. Lew Amen, brudder! |
Polyester vs Epoxy resin for dinghy/kayak construction?
wrote:
What are the relative merits of polyester resin vs epoxy resin? Trying to compare polyester and woven roving to epoxy and knitted glass is like trying to compare oranges and apples. Both are "fiberglass" laminates, but the similarity ends there. About the best you get is 35%glass/65%resin using woven roving, mat, and polyester. OTOH, it is quite common to get a 50%glass/50%resin using knitted glass and epoxy. This laminate does not require any mat. Bottom line.................... Polyester/roving produces a rather brittle, heavy laminate. Epoxy/knitted glass produces a more ductile, lighter weight laminate. Pound for pound, polyester and woven roving cost less per pound, but you use more pounds, so the cost differences tend to disappear. Epoxy, knitted glass and a 1/2" Airex foam core would produce a very light weight, bullet proof, dinghy or kayak. Just remember three things. 1)You will buy a commercial dinghy for less money than you will spend to build one. 2)You build one because you want to do it. 3)Once you use epoxy and knitted glass, you will never consider polyester again. Lew |
Polyester vs Epoxy resin for dinghy/kayak construction?
On Aug 20, 8:18 pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
3)Once you use epoxy and knitted glass, you will never consider polyester again. Lew You got that right!! |
Polyester vs Epoxy resin for dinghy/kayak construction?
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ups.com... Anyone with suggestions on alternate plans, dinghy or kayak with smooth lines? Ian Oughtred's Puffin? See www.customware.nl/boats And that one is entirely glued with epoxy. Meindert |
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