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epxoides can be diluted with acid before they set. you can clean your
hands and tools with lemon juice or vinegar. all oaks contain tannin (tannic acid) which dilutes epoxy and makes the bond weaker. white oaks (english and burr) are lower in tannin than red oaks. you can sometimes eat the acorns from white oaks without boiling off (leaching out) the acid, hence the common name of sweet oak. you will have less dilution with white oak. boatbuilders usually recommend roughing up the surface of oak before bonding with epoxy resin. you should be able to brush on something like a soda solution to netralize the acid although I've never heard of boatbuildiers doing it. "Mike Brannon" ) writes: Greetings group, I was wondering if anyone has had any trouble with epoxy glue and white oak. I'm building several laminations here of thin white oak to form frames, sheer clamps, stem etc. and I recently ran across something in print that warned of glueing up oak in such a manner. So far it has been trouble free for me but it seemed appropriate to ask the knowledge base at this forum of their experiences before proceeding at full speed. best regards, Mike Brannon, 24 foot gardner designed power dory in progress. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ William R Watt National Capital FreeNet Ottawa's free community network homepage: www.ncf.ca/~ag384/top.htm warning: non-FreeNet email must have "notspam" in subject or it's returned |
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Just a technical point. Acids don't "dilute" epoxy, they neutralize it
and prevent it from curing. That's why oak can be a problem. I prefer to use polyurethane glue for bonding oak. Acetone, lacquer thinner and denatured alcohol (among other things) can be used to dilute (thin) epoxy and will not adversely affect the cure. However, they can cause a reduction in strength if too much solvent is used, as the amount of solids in the bond is reduced. William R. Watt wrote: epxoides can be diluted with acid before they set. you can clean your hands and tools with lemon juice or vinegar. all oaks contain tannin (tannic acid) which dilutes epoxy and makes the bond weaker. white oaks (english and burr) are lower in tannin than red oaks. you can sometimes eat the acorns from white oaks without boiling off (leaching out) the acid, hence the common name of sweet oak. you will have less dilution with white oak. |
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