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Good method.
Ideally you should fiberglass the hull outside for extra protection. While you are at it, fiberglass the inside too, it will increase strength tremendously. If you use biaxial glass, it will become a true sandwich. Note that you don't really need to start with wood, you could us foam strips, that would be even better. Oops, we just got ourself a real nice composite boat . . . -- Jacques http://www.bateau.com "Scott Downey" wrote in message ... http://www.azom.com/details.asp?ArticleID=1116 Glued Carvel Plank edges may be shaped and glued with a thickened epoxy mix or alternatively the seams of dry fitted planks may be routed later to a constant width and fitted with wooden splines which are glued into place. This latter method is the usual treatment when a traditionally built carvel craft is reconstructed using epoxy adhesives as part of a full restoration program. Sometimes a thickened epoxy mix is introduced into the seams as an alternative to wooden splines and this seems to be just as effective in fastening the plank edges together. The planking is also glued to the spine and framework, which on new boats is built of laminated hardwood, glued and coated with epoxy. |
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Jacques says:
Oops, we just got ourself a real nice composite boat . . . Sarcasm ill becomes you, Jacques.... ;-) |
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However, if the planking cannot be fully encapsulated, meaning kept DRY, then
i'd hesitate to fill seams with something firm like splines or epoxy putty. If the planking gets wet and tries to expand, something has to give. It might be frames or fastenings. Only if the planking is of a species that doesn't swell much, might you get away with this. Jacques Mertens wrote: Good method. Ideally you should fiberglass the hull outside for extra protection. While you are at it, fiberglass the inside too, it will increase strength tremendously. If you use biaxial glass, it will become a true sandwich. Note that you don't really need to start with wood, you could us foam strips, that would be even better. Oops, we just got ourself a real nice composite boat . . . -- Jacques http://www.bateau.com "Scott Downey" wrote in message ... http://www.azom.com/details.asp?ArticleID=1116 Glued Carvel Plank edges may be shaped and glued with a thickened epoxy mix or alternatively the seams of dry fitted planks may be routed later to a constant width and fitted with wooden splines which are glued into place. This latter method is the usual treatment when a traditionally built carvel craft is reconstructed using epoxy adhesives as part of a full restoration program. Sometimes a thickened epoxy mix is introduced into the seams as an alternative to wooden splines and this seems to be just as effective in fastening the plank edges together. The planking is also glued to the spine and framework, which on new boats is built of laminated hardwood, glued and coated with epoxy. |
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Correct: hybrid solutions could cause problems.
I share your doubts about glued seams. There are some epoxies that are sufficiently flexible but why take a chance? Either build her as wooden boat or as a composite (fiberglassed boat). -- Jacques http://www.bateau.com "Jim Conlin" wrote in message ... However, if the planking cannot be fully encapsulated, meaning kept DRY, then i'd hesitate to fill seams with something firm like splines or epoxy putty. If the planking gets wet and tries to expand, something has to give. It might be frames or fastenings. Only if the planking is of a species that doesn't swell much, might you get away with this. |
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I heard that some Scandinavian builders built carvel boats with no gap
at all, just perfect seams, no glue, no caulking. Don't know details, it's been a while since I looked into it. I believe they were sailing vessels, 35' and more, they were built thus to provide more hull stiffness, amoung other things, and they didn't seap/leak at all. Sorry, can't recall how/where I found the info. But it means there's more than one way to skin a cat... Here's an interesting post I found while doing a quick search to see if I could find any more info: http://www.rtpnet.org/robroy/baidark.../Nov/0020.html Search "no caulking" on this page: http://www.mastmate.com/a-f.html Another mention: http://personal.riverusers.com/~emkay/building2.html Well, I haven't found the references I wanted, but that's it for now. Rufus Jacques Mertens wrote: Correct: hybrid solutions could cause problems. I share your doubts about glued seams. There are some epoxies that are sufficiently flexible but why take a chance? Either build her as wooden boat or as a composite (fiberglassed boat). -- Jacques http://www.bateau.com "Jim Conlin" wrote in message ... However, if the planking cannot be fully encapsulated, meaning kept DRY, then i'd hesitate to fill seams with something firm like splines or epoxy putty. If the planking gets wet and tries to expand, something has to give. It might be frames or fastenings. Only if the planking is of a species that doesn't swell much, might you get away with this. |
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Hi
"Rufus" skrev i en meddelelse news:ehJHb.158921$8y1.474281@attbi_s52... I heard that some Scandinavian builders built carvel boats with no gap at all, just perfect seams, no glue, no caulking. Don't know details, it's been a while since I looked into it. I believe they were sailing vessels, 35' and more, they were built thus to provide more hull stiffness, amoung other things, and they didn't seap/leak at all. Snip Sure you need no caulking if you don't want any, ------ this was common knowleage and there are a number of tricks to make sure the seam work tight without caulking ; Hammer down a long rod along the plank edge and plane away untill you reach the bottom of the grove made by deforming the plank edge. Then when soaked the compressed wood will swell. Place the planking forgetting about the seam ,as long as the seam is not wider than a router bit, when you are sure the wood stabilised router away along the seam and glue in a wood spline. Still these old tricks work for true wooden boats ,Im'e not sure it's worth the efford with any ply boat, even if a routered in wood spline along a tortured seam is there from the start within the plans ,it's proberly a very good idea but I wonder if any box boat plans ask this, ------ case so I would like to se the naval architect recomend from his own hands-on experience. P.C. http://www.designcommunity.com/scrap...mages/2985.jpg |
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