price of a 440 pound engine -- without starter motor -- that develops 10 hp
flat out, throttle against the fire wall, motor built in Norway, "rebuilt a
while back"?

You tell us.


Hi,
Anyone have a clue what a Sabb 10hp (with drive) would
be worth in he USA? It has been rebuilt a while back apparently. The owner
wants an offer, but I have no idea what the motor is worth.
Any comments would be appreciated.

thanks,
Neil McC.

Thanks for the benefit of your wisdom.

If I had any idea at all I would never have posted.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
price of a 440 pound engine -- without starter motor -- that develops 10
hp
flat out, throttle against the fire wall, motor built in Norway, "rebuilt
a
while back"?

You tell us.


Hi,
Anyone have a clue what a Sabb 10hp (with drive) would
be worth in he USA? It has been rebuilt a while back apparently. The
owner
wants an offer, but I have no idea what the motor is worth.
Any comments would be appreciated.

thanks,
Neil McC.

Neil,

Don't let JAX scare you off. For the right boat that old SABB is exactly
the right engine. It has a variable (and reversible) pitch prop which is
a fantastic idea. I just don't have the room on my boat to swing that
much prop 8-(

Pirate_Dave
--
In article , Neil wrote:
Thanks for the benefit of your wisdom.

If I had any idea at all I would never have posted.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
price of a 440 pound engine -- without starter motor -- that develops 10
hp
flat out, throttle against the fire wall, motor built in Norway, "rebuilt
a
while back"?

You tell us.


Hi,
Anyone have a clue what a Sabb 10hp (with drive) would
be worth in he USA? It has been rebuilt a while back apparently. The
owner
wants an offer, but I have no idea what the motor is worth.
Any comments would be appreciated.

thanks,
Neil McC.

Dave,
Thanks for your positive comments.
I was thinking of building 'Godzilla'
http://www.devlinboat.com/dcgodzilla.htm
and I favour an old slow revving Sabb - if I can get one.
For reference, and was rebuilt about 18 months ago.

I use a 50 year old Ferguson tractor on my small farm and it's just great. I
wonder how many
Kubotas will be still be going after 50 years.

Neil McC.


"Dave Cannell" wrote in message
.. .
Neil,

Don't let JAX scare you off. For the right boat that old SABB is exactly
the right engine. It has a variable (and reversible) pitch prop which is
a fantastic idea. I just don't have the room on my boat to swing that
much prop 8-(

Pirate_Dave
--
In article , Neil wrote:
Thanks for the benefit of your wisdom.

If I had any idea at all I would never have posted.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
price of a 440 pound engine -- without starter motor -- that develops
10
hp
flat out, throttle against the fire wall, motor built in Norway,
"rebuilt
a
while back"?

You tell us.


Hi,
Anyone have a clue what a Sabb 10hp (with drive) would
be worth in he USA? It has been rebuilt a while back apparently. The
owner
wants an offer, but I have no idea what the motor is worth.
Any comments would be appreciated.

thanks,
Neil McC.

for the right boat, a 2,000# wood-fired steam engine is the right engine, too.

Not many boats are right for that, but at least one with a totally dedicated
owner wanting a character boat there is.

Neil,

Don't let JAX scare you off. For the right boat that old SABB is exactly
the right engine. It has a variable (and reversible) pitch prop which is
a fantastic idea. I just don't have the room on my boat to swing that
much prop 8-(

Pirate_Dave
--
In article , Neil wrote:
Thanks for the benefit of your wisdom.

If I had any idea at all I would never have posted.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
price of a 440 pound engine -- without starter motor -- that develops 10
hp
flat out, throttle against the fire wall, motor built in Norway, "rebuilt
a
while back"?

You tell us.


Hi,
Anyone have a clue what a Sabb 10hp (with drive) would
be worth in he USA? It has been rebuilt a while back apparently. The
owner
wants an offer, but I have no idea what the motor is worth.
Any comments would be appreciated.

thanks,
Neil McC.

you mean you are looking at a grossly heavy, pitifully underpowered engine made
in some garage in Norway, rebuilt "some time ago" ....

..... and THEN ....

..... are asking for definitive advice from rec.boat.highschool on just how much
this thing is worth????

Of course.

Dude, an 9.9 hp outboard would be easier to fix and keep in running shape and
would weigh several hundred pounds less.

In addition, most any single cylinder recent production diesel inboard would
weigh upwards of 250# less and be easy to keep repaired.

For that matter, a Vyre (sp?) 7 hp, 2-cycle gasoline inboard would weigh close
to 350# less (that means the boat would have 350# more load carrying capacity
(use it for fuel if you wish. 350# of gasoline is about 55 gallons EXTRA fuel
onboard, or about 150 *hours* more motoring time than the obese sabb engine.


Thanks for the benefit of your wisdom.

If I had any idea at all I would never have posted.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
price of a 440 pound engine -- without starter motor -- that develops 10
hp
flat out, throttle against the fire wall, motor built in Norway, "rebuilt
a
while back"?

You tell us.


Hi,
Anyone have a clue what a Sabb 10hp (with drive) would
be worth in he USA? It has been rebuilt a while back apparently. The
owner
wants an offer, but I have no idea what the motor is worth.
Any comments would be appreciated.

thanks,
Neil McC.

you mean you are looking at a grossly heavy, pitifully underpowered engine
made
in some garage in Norway

Sabbs are wonderfully suited for what they do best in a displacement hull.
They will run forever with a minimum of care. They are as dependable as it
gets. Sabb makes starter kits for them, but they can always be hand-cranked
and will start at just about any temperature.

Offer the guy $1000.00 bucks and be overjoyed if he takes it. If you are
looking to power a displacment hull and understand the benefits of variable
pitch, then this would be a gift.

Good Luck !

Regards,

Nils Klykken
St. Pete, Florida

The Sabbs are great engines, very reliable and quiet thanks to their super
big flywhell.
They are easy to fix, easy to rebuild and the company as dealers in the US
or will ship parts.
I would pay up to $ 1,000.00 for a running 10 HP especially if it comes with
the var. pitch prop and shaft.
My only reservation is the HP, 10 HP is a little small for that very heavy
Devlin design. Those old engines have great torque at low rpm but still, I
would prefer to see a 20 in there.
Again: it's a great engine.

--
Jacques
http://www.bateau.com

"NKlykken" wrote in message
...
you mean you are looking at a grossly heavy, pitifully underpowered
engine
made
in some garage in Norway

Sabbs are wonderfully suited for what they do best in a displacement hull.
They will run forever with a minimum of care. They are as dependable as
it
gets. Sabb makes starter kits for them, but they can always be
hand-cranked
and will start at just about any temperature.

Offer the guy $1000.00 bucks and be overjoyed if he takes it. If you are
looking to power a displacment hull and understand the benefits of
variable
pitch, then this would be a gift.

Good Luck !

Regards,

Nils Klykken
St. Pete, Florida

I would pay up to $ 1,000.00 for a running 10 HP especially if it comes with
the var. pitch prop and shaft.

It *HAS* to come with the variable pitch prop and shaft. That is the ONLY
transmission made for the engine.

Those old engines have great torque at low rpm

HP = torque times rpm. If it has just 10 hp and it achieves this hp at lower
rpm it MUST have higher torque (otherwise it wouldn't make 10 hp), and this
means it MUST have more cubic inch displacement. There is zero point zero
advantage to "more torque". It is the hp you need to drive the boat. A 90,000
rpm turbine engine, or 12,000 rpm racing 2-cycle, or 9,500 rpm racing 4-cycle,
or a 6,000 production 2-cycle, or 4,500 production 4-cycle, or a 3,000
production diesel, or a 1,500 rpm industrial diesel, or a 500 rpm mule diesel
engine, or a 50 rpm steam engine, or 10 plough horses (actually, about 8 plough
horses as Jimmy Watt kinds fibbed a bit about the strength of plough horses to
help sell his steam engines), are ALL just 10 horsepower, and it *IS* the hp
that drives the boat.

but still, I
would prefer to see a 20 in there.

The 20 hp Sabb engine weights in at 880#, or well more than a 750 hp MoPar
hemi.

You REALLY have to like the _thought_ of a seriously heavy, low output *diesel*
engine to think that the Sabb engines are anything useful.

Think of it: a 880# engine that puts out less hp than a teenage boy's 180 cc
motorcycle.

Again: it's a great engine.

As is a 2,000# 2hp steam engine in the right circumstance, but it gotta be a
character type boat to be the right circumstance.

A huge displacement, high torque, slow turning 10 hp motor puts out no more hp
than a tiny displacement, high reving, low torque 10 hp motor.

I would pay up to $ 1,000.00 for a running 10 HP especially if it comes with
the var. pitch prop and shaft.

It's complete......
Regards,

Nils Klykken
St. Pete, Florida