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UK Supplier of Fiberglass panels
Hello,
I am in the throws of deciding on a sailing cruiser to build and perhaps more importantly which method of construction that I plan to use prior to ordering plans. Currently my preferences are either stitch and glue (as I have done this before) or cedar strip (which looks like an interesting challenge), but recently I have been looking at the http://www.glen-l.com/ website where many of their plans require the craft to be built from Fiberglass planking. So as to consider this method of construction is anyone aware of suppliers of such planking in the UK? Many thanks, Mark |
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That is a coincidence but here is another one: we are working on a foam
sandwich version of the VG23. Already, as designed you could build her that way but I am working on a set of scantlings. -- Jacques http://www.bateau.com "Mark" wrote in message om... Hi Jacques You are right. I meant planks, but got the subject title wrong. Interestingly enough, your Vagabond 23 is my primary interest at the moment, and probably the boat that I will go for. The build will have to wait until after Christmas to allow the weather to warm a little as I will be building primarily outside within a small covered area. My interest was momentarily grabbed by the thought of fiberglass planks, but if there is no supplier in the UK, I will rule this out on cost grounds. Many thanks, Mark "Jacques Mertens" wrote in message .. . Could that be C-Flex? I don't think they use panels. For C-Flex, find a company named Seamann. They have an agent in Holland, don't know about the UK. -- Jacques http://www.bateau.com "Mark" wrote in message m... Hello, I am in the throws of deciding on a sailing cruiser to build and perhaps more importantly which method of construction that I plan to use prior to ordering plans. Currently my preferences are either stitch and glue (as I have done this before) or cedar strip (which looks like an interesting challenge), but recently I have been looking at the http://www.glen-l.com/ website where many of their plans require the craft to be built from Fiberglass planking. So as to consider this method of construction is anyone aware of suppliers of such planking in the UK? Many thanks, Mark |
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Excellent. I've not yet looked into foam sandwich - but it is
something that I would consider. Time for some more research, I think. Many thanks, Mark "Jacques Mertens" wrote in message . .. That is a coincidence but here is another one: we are working on a foam sandwich version of the VG23. Already, as designed you could build her that way but I am working on a set of scantlings. -- Jacques http://www.bateau.com "Mark" wrote in message om... Hi Jacques You are right. I meant planks, but got the subject title wrong. Interestingly enough, your Vagabond 23 is my primary interest at the moment, and probably the boat that I will go for. The build will have to wait until after Christmas to allow the weather to warm a little as I will be building primarily outside within a small covered area. My interest was momentarily grabbed by the thought of fiberglass planks, but if there is no supplier in the UK, I will rule this out on cost grounds. Many thanks, Mark |
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UK Supplier of Fiberglass panels
Mark wrote: Hello, I am in the throws of deciding on a sailing cruiser to build and perhaps more importantly which method of construction that I plan to use prior to ordering plans. Currently my preferences are either stitch and glue (as I have done this before) or cedar strip (which looks like an interesting challenge), but recently I have been looking at the http://www.glen-l.com/ website where many of their plans require the craft to be built from Fiberglass planking. So as to consider this method of construction is anyone aware of suppliers of such planking in the UK? Many thanks, Mark Usually fabricated in situ, I believe, As I recall, a frame kit, some c-flex foam tacked on and some delightful glass-fibre woven material, like fireproof drapes, and catalyzed polyester resin slopped on can easily become a 'fiberglass panel' boat. If you useed planks or cut up pieces of plywood instead, you would have a more traditional wooden boat, no? Or do you expect to buy sheets of cured fiberglass like plywood, to be cut to shape or precut shaped panels, and stuck together, with glue of some sort, like double sided tape or velcro, maybe nails? Screws are such a bother. If, after glassing the outside, you glass the inside too, you would have a foam sandwich construction with floatation core, and would need to incorperate some connection system to bind the 2 layers of glass together, unless you trust it to adhere strongly to the foam while sloughing off 10 tons of lumpy seawater while the loose elephant cargo below makes a break for Freedom and Africa? Dream on. -- Terry K - My email address is MY PROPERTY, and is protected by copyright legislation. Permission to reproduce it is specifically denied for mass mailing and unrequested solicitations. Reproduction or conveyance for any unauthorised purpose is THEFT and PLAGIARISM. Abuse is Invasion of privacy and harassment. Abusers may be prosecuted. -This notice footer released to public domain. Spamspoof salad by spamchock - SofDevCo |
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Terry,
Maybe you could research the product the guy is asking about before you jump in with your useless uninformed (and rather rude) post. For the original poster: A yahoo search came up with a few UK locations that mention the C-Flex fiberglass panels. I didn't search through for specific suppliers but it appears that they are available. It seems some of the Bruce-Roberts boats must use this material so contacting one of the places that deals in their stuff might turn up a source. I have had good results asking questions at Glen-L so maybe an email to them would help find a source. Good luck. Ed Terry Spragg wrote: Mark wrote: Hello, I am in the throws of deciding on a sailing cruiser to build and perhaps more importantly which method of construction that I plan to use prior to ordering plans. Currently my preferences are either stitch and glue (as I have done this before) or cedar strip (which looks like an interesting challenge), but recently I have been looking at the http://www.glen-l.com/ website where many of their plans require the craft to be built from Fiberglass planking. So as to consider this method of construction is anyone aware of suppliers of such planking in the UK? Many thanks, Mark Usually fabricated in situ, I believe, As I recall, a frame kit, some c-flex foam tacked on and some delightful glass-fibre woven material, like fireproof drapes, and catalyzed polyester resin slopped on can easily become a 'fiberglass panel' boat. If you useed planks or cut up pieces of plywood instead, you would have a more traditional wooden boat, no? Or do you expect to buy sheets of cured fiberglass like plywood, to be cut to shape or precut shaped panels, and stuck together, with glue of some sort, like double sided tape or velcro, maybe nails? Screws are such a bother. If, after glassing the outside, you glass the inside too, you would have a foam sandwich construction with floatation core, and would need to incorperate some connection system to bind the 2 layers of glass together, unless you trust it to adhere strongly to the foam while sloughing off 10 tons of lumpy seawater while the loose elephant cargo below makes a break for Freedom and Africa? Dream on. |
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"Terry Spragg" wrote in message ... If, after glassing the outside, you glass the inside too, you would have a foam sandwich construction with floatation core, and would need to incorperate some connection system to bind the 2 layers of glass together, unless you trust it to adhere strongly to the foam while sloughing off 10 tons of lumpy seawater while the loose elephant cargo below makes a break for Freedom and Africa? Dream on. ? New to me . . . I'm glad I didn't sink during those ocean crossings because my boat did not have any of those "connections" between the skins. Maybe we should warn all those yards, builders and designers of foam sandwich hulls. |
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would need to incorperate some connection system to bind the 2 layers of glass together, unless you trust it to adhere strongly to the foam while sloughing off 10 tons of lumpy seawater Interestingly, I've just started working for a company specialising in attaching resins to many substrates including foam. And I _really_ would trust it to adhere to the foam. I could give you a recipe for adhesion to of all unlikely substrates, polysyrene, were it not commerically sensitive. Al |
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Terry Spragg wrote in message ...
Mark wrote: Hello, I am in the throws of deciding on a sailing cruiser to build and perhaps more importantly which method of construction that I plan to use prior to ordering plans. Currently my preferences are either stitch and glue (as I have done this before) or cedar strip (which looks like an interesting challenge), but recently I have been looking at the http://www.glen-l.com/ website where many of their plans require the craft to be built from Fiberglass planking. So as to consider this method of construction is anyone aware of suppliers of such planking in the UK? Many thanks, Mark Usually fabricated in situ, I believe, As I recall, a frame kit, some c-flex foam tacked on and some delightful glass-fibre woven material, like fireproof drapes, and catalyzed polyester resin slopped on can easily become a 'fiberglass panel' boat. If you useed planks or cut up pieces of plywood instead, you would have a more traditional wooden boat, no? Or do you expect to buy sheets of cured fiberglass like plywood, to be cut to shape or precut shaped panels, and stuck together, with glue of some sort, like double sided tape or velcro, maybe nails? Screws are such a bother. If, after glassing the outside, you glass the inside too, you would have a foam sandwich construction with floatation core, and would need to incorperate some connection system to bind the 2 layers of glass together, unless you trust it to adhere strongly to the foam while sloughing off 10 tons of lumpy seawater while the loose elephant cargo below makes a break for Freedom and Africa? Dream on. Sounds to me like you are being sarcastic here, forgive me if I miss. But if you are mocking this type of "dream" building it is being done all the time and for some time now. Of course I don't usually carry elephants around in the bilge, but you never know... maybe pink ones... Scotty |
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Hi Jacques,
Out of interest, do you have a BOM available for the foam sandwiched version? This would help me do a cost comparison between the ply and foam versions. Foam sandwich would be a good way to go for me as I see this boat as being a project to learn new techniques prior to a bigger build. Thanks, Mark "Jacques Mertens" wrote in message . .. That is a coincidence but here is another one: we are working on a foam sandwich version of the VG23. Already, as designed you could build her that way but I am working on a set of scantlings. -- Jacques http://www.bateau.com |
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The plans for that version will have a BOM, like all good plans but it's not
ready now, sorry. We are working on 3 other designs, that job is #4 on the list. -- Jacques http://www.bateau.com "Mark" wrote in message om... Hi Jacques, Out of interest, do you have a BOM available for the foam sandwiched version? This would help me do a cost comparison between the ply and foam versions. Foam sandwich would be a good way to go for me as I see this boat as being a project to learn new techniques prior to a bigger build. Thanks, Mark "Jacques Mertens" wrote in message . .. That is a coincidence but here is another one: we are working on a foam sandwich version of the VG23. Already, as designed you could build her that way but I am working on a set of scantlings. -- Jacques http://www.bateau.com |
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