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This unit appears to be some sort of ejector (jet) type pump, where the
momentum of high velocity steam is transferred to the water, raising the mass
of the entire stream so that the thrust is produced at lower exit velocity and
therefore lower energy flow.

Not only is the thermodynamics of heating and cooling questionable from an
energy conservation standpoint, ejector pump (NOT jets found currently in
marine use) efficiency is usually quite low, even when fluids for jet and
reaction are the same density. Do I see another "Magnetohydrodynamic drive"
scam in the works?

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From: "malcolm"
Date: 7/26/03 7:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time
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the principle is similar to the WW2 V1 Pulse Jet Engine.
instead of flap valves they use pressure and cavity shape from what I can
gather.
and steam instead of burning kerosine, and of course water as the reaction
medium.
if the system is expensive when it comes out that will be a shame,
but should be easy (maybe) to DIY a system for a small boat.
I am sure somebody will do some plans and work it out.
regards malcolm

"Patrick" wrote in message
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Sounds a wee bit like those little flash steam model boats we used to make
as kids.
A U shaped bit of copper tubing would project from the stern of the boat
just on the water line. And would run slightly down for about 3" to a

meths
burner.
After heating up, the boat would be put into the pond or whatever, a

little
water would enter the pipe and run down to the hot part where it would be
vapourised causing a jet of steam to come out of the pipe, propelling the
boat along with a series of Put Put Puts
Good fun, I think I might go and make one now for the Kids!
Patrick

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you might find this interesting.
http://www.pursuitdynamics.com/default.asp
radical new form of water pulse Jet for Boats.
regards malcolm







Barry Palmer, for A
HREF="http://members.aol.com/sevtec/sev/skmr.html"Sevtec/A
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pulse jet engine

"Barry Palmer" wrote in message
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This unit appears to be some sort of ejector (jet) type pump, where the
momentum of high velocity steam is transferred to the water, raising the

mass
of the entire stream so that the thrust is produced at lower exit velocity

and
therefore lower energy flow.

Not only is the thermodynamics of heating and cooling questionable from

an
energy conservation standpoint, ejector pump (NOT jets found currently in
marine use) efficiency is usually quite low, even when fluids for jet and
reaction are the same density. Do I see another "Magnetohydrodynamic

drive"
scam in the works?

Subject: fun new engine
From: "malcolm"
Date: 7/26/03 7:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

the principle is similar to the WW2 V1 Pulse Jet Engine.
instead of flap valves they use pressure and cavity shape from what I can
gather.
and steam instead of burning kerosine, and of course water as the

reaction
medium.
if the system is expensive when it comes out that will be a shame,
but should be easy (maybe) to DIY a system for a small boat.
I am sure somebody will do some plans and work it out.
regards malcolm

"Patrick" wrote in message
...
Sounds a wee bit like those little flash steam model boats we used to

make
as kids.
A U shaped bit of copper tubing would project from the stern of the

boat
just on the water line. And would run slightly down for about 3" to a

meths
burner.
After heating up, the boat would be put into the pond or whatever, a

little
water would enter the pipe and run down to the hot part where it would

be
vapourised causing a jet of steam to come out of the pipe, propelling

the
boat along with a series of Put Put Puts
Good fun, I think I might go and make one now for the Kids!
Patrick

----------
In article , "malcolm"
wrote:


you might find this interesting.
http://www.pursuitdynamics.com/default.asp
radical new form of water pulse Jet for Boats.
regards malcolm







Barry Palmer, for A
HREF="http://members.aol.com/sevtec/sev/skmr.html"Sevtec/A



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the Germans in WW2 dropped an alwful lot of V1s on London and Antwerp etc
using this method


"Barry Palmer" wrote in message
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This unit appears to be some sort of ejector (jet) type pump, where the
momentum of high velocity steam is transferred to the water, raising the

mass
of the entire stream so that the thrust is produced at lower exit velocity

and
therefore lower energy flow.

Not only is the thermodynamics of heating and cooling questionable from

an
energy conservation standpoint, ejector pump (NOT jets found currently in
marine use) efficiency is usually quite low, even when fluids for jet and
reaction are the same density. Do I see another "Magnetohydrodynamic

drive"
scam in the works?



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I see another "Magnetohydrodynamic drive"
scam in the works?


Aha!! one of our number is beginning to see the King is "nekked" ). Even
with a working steam generator, the thrust will be very questionable, IMO, and
the scaling.corrosion problems will be enormous. As a former supplier of high
purity water to the Navy for steam turbines in carriers & nuke subs, I can tell
you it takes a bunch of water that's about 6,000 times more pure than distilled
and some very sophisticated corrosion treatments to keep it running under ideal
conditions. Notice the "investment opportunity" pitch ).
Greg Sefton
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Bray says "6000 times more pure than distilled". Hummmm. Isn't
distilled as pure as you can get.

Ron



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