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In a previous article, Terry Spragg said:
Paul Tomblin wrote: I very much doubt that there are any canoers or kayakers who've put wood stoves in their boats, so I fail to see why you included rec.boats.paddle.touring in your posting. If charcoal burning hand warmers are not wood heaters, perhaps you'd prefer a New Found Land and Labrador wooden stove? "Gives good heat, can burn for 24 hours, b'y. Replacement stoves, cheap." You can't have your kayak and heat it too. -- Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/ Quality Control, n.: The process of testing one out of every 1,000 units coming off a production line to make sure that at least one out of 100 works. |
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:31:29 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote: In a previous article, Terry Spragg said: Paul Tomblin wrote: I very much doubt that there are any canoers or kayakers who've put wood stoves in their boats, so I fail to see why you included rec.boats.paddle.touring in your posting..... You can't have your kayak and heat it too. Good one! Brian Whatcott Altus, OK |
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Terry Spragg wrote:
As well, pellet stoves can burn small wood efficiently, with forced draught. The best pellets are made from waste from flooring and cabinet scraps. The ash all goes up the pipe. Haven't seen any small pellet stoves, though. Hi Terry, We don't want to be thinking too far ashore about a boat woodstove. Even if a pellet unit of tiny size could be fabbed it would require the complexities of an automated feed auger, electricity-hungry draught blower, increased maintenance, lower overall reliability, and be restriced to a very limited type & sources of fuel. Pellets are also easy to get wet in a marine environment & hard to dry out if they do. BTW a small shoreside stove of uncoated CI will grow rust aboard a boat faster than crabs in a Carribean whorehouse, and must be continually maintained & recoated with stove paint, which is a PITA. Someone with vision & some capital needs to start spec-ing/subbing overseas & selling a tiny porcelain-coated well-fitted cast iron woodstove that is well thought-out for versatility & simplicity at a cheap price. They would sell thousands of them and make a killing, especially if they may be exempted from the ridiculous new US EPA woodstove emission requirements (and their equivalents elsewhere) as the new and inferior copies of the insultingly overpriced Lunenbergs appear to be. Those guys need some serious competition, and many people would want one ashore in small spaces as well. A lot of excellent CI goods are produced cheaply in Taiwan (along with some very crappy iron too), as long as the importer specifies good stuff; my Powermatic tablesaw is Taiwanese CI, and they are still recycling all the ships we've scrapped there. I am willing to jump into this project if anyone has the capital and cajones to do it. |
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I don't know much about wood stoves on boats, other than what I've read about boats in days gone by, but I enjoy looking at the photos, descriptions, and prices of wood stoves in a 1979 edition of the Harrowsmith Sourcebook in my home library. For some reason the stove pipe on a boat is called the "Charlie Noble". There are lots of space heaters in the book under $500. The two principal kinds are closed models and models with glass doors for viewing the fire. They either have cast iron fireboxes or sheet metal lined with fire brick. The commentary says it doesn't make any difference except you can break the fire brick if you aren't carefull putting wood into the stove. The cookstoves tend to be bigger, heavier, and over $1,000 with one under $500. That was in 1979. Selection of a stove for a boat would depend a lot on the space avaiable. The stoves come in different dimensions. Some have the stovepipe coming out the back which would require more space than a stovepipe comming out the top. Some of the samller stoves have long legs putting the center of gravity pretty high for a boat, from the look of them. Personally, I'd favour a squat stove with low centre of gravity on a boat. I think old time stoves on boats tended to burn coal rather than wood. I imagine coal would take up less space on board for the same heat production. (dh@.) writes: Hi, I have a houseboat that I'd like to take out some this winter, and I'd like to have a small wood stove to use in it. All the small wood stoves I've been able to find have been camping related, so I'm asking for advice in camping groups as well as boating groups. Can anyone suggest any stove(s) that they feel are good and affordable, and any suggestions about use etc? Thanks for any help! David PS in case anyone is interested in what I've found so far, or wants proof that I've done some looking on my own as well as asking for people to share what they've learned, here is a list of some related websites: http://www.calarmy.com/tents/ http://www.kni-co.com/ http://tinyurl.com/9pbxv http://www.aaoobfoods.com/shepherdstoves.htm#2%20DX http://davistent.com/davisTent/html/WoodStoves.html http://www.cylinderstoves.com/defram...ovepricing.htm http://www.walltentshop.com/CatStoves.html http://www.fourdog.com/page2.html http://www.army-technology.com/contr...manufacturing/ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ William R Watt National Capital FreeNet Ottawa's free community network homepage: www.ncf.ca/~ag384/top.htm warning: non-FreeNet email must have "notspam" in subject or it's returned |
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I believe that there is also a Force 5 stove that burns solid fuel.
Brian |
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:31:29 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote: In a previous article, Terry Spragg said: Paul Tomblin wrote: I very much doubt that there are any canoers or kayakers who've put wood stoves in their boats, so I fail to see why you included rec.boats.paddle.touring in your posting. If charcoal burning hand warmers are not wood heaters, perhaps you'd prefer a New Found Land and Labrador wooden stove? "Gives good heat, can burn for 24 hours, b'y. Replacement stoves, cheap." You can't have your kayak and heat it too. Thank you. I've always loved that joke. Cyli r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels. Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless. http://www.visi.com/~cyli email: lid (strip the .invalid to email) |
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This is the third time I have tried to say this and if it does not go
through then I'll deep six this site. There is a solid fuel heater NEWPORT by Dickinson. It looks like any other propane or diesel heater bulkhead mounted. I have one and use sterno which works fine. A friend has one and uses selfstarting charcoal to start cannel coal, which is a fireplace coal. We only haul our boats for maintenance and need some BTU's in the winter months. |
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Gogarty wrote:
We eventually settled on a mix of real charcoal (avoid briquettes like the plague -- what's in those things anyway?) and pea size anthracite coal. We had to install a fan on the front of the ash drawer to provide a forced draft to keep the coal burning. Try larger coal - less draught restriction - and always coal that is rounded not broken & flattened in shape (same reason & getting harder to find). Either way it sounds like a dangerous idea; coal gas with the inadequate natural draught from a short boat stack offers deadly possiblitites. |
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