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the pancake skiff - episode 1
"DougC" wrote in message news On 7/31/2010 8:46 PM, mmc wrote: http://spacecoast.craigslist.org/boa/1874022332.html Some great deals out there.......... The price is right, but the floor isn't flat... -and how well does it row? The engine is an "extra" for me. It'd be nice to have if I needed it, but don't think I'd use it much of the time. I don't want to listen to the noise of an engine all the time I'm moving. ~ Not my boat. Looks like the hull is flat bottomed which would lead to a flat floor. A flat bottom boat isn't going to track well when rowing, better off with a shallow v. |
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the pancake skiff - episode 1
On 8/2/2010 3:29 PM, mmc wrote:
wrote in message news On 7/31/2010 8:46 PM, mmc wrote: http://spacecoast.craigslist.org/boa/1874022332.html Some great deals out there.......... The price is right, but the floor isn't flat... -and how well does it row? The engine is an "extra" for me. It'd be nice to have if I needed it, but don't think I'd use it much of the time. I don't want to listen to the noise of an engine all the time I'm moving. ~ Not my boat. Looks like the hull is flat bottomed which would lead to a flat floor. A flat bottom boat isn't going to track well when rowing, better off with a shallow v. Well okay, let me elaborate: I wand an "open" floor. Boats like that always have seats extending across that (I'd bet) are structural pieces. I think in three days I've had three different ideas about what would be perfect.... :/ ~ |
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the pancake skiff - episode 1
"DougC" wrote in message ... On 8/2/2010 3:29 PM, mmc wrote: wrote in message news On 7/31/2010 8:46 PM, mmc wrote: http://spacecoast.craigslist.org/boa/1874022332.html Some great deals out there.......... The price is right, but the floor isn't flat... -and how well does it row? The engine is an "extra" for me. It'd be nice to have if I needed it, but don't think I'd use it much of the time. I don't want to listen to the noise of an engine all the time I'm moving. ~ Not my boat. Looks like the hull is flat bottomed which would lead to a flat floor. A flat bottom boat isn't going to track well when rowing, better off with a shallow v. Well okay, let me elaborate: I wand an "open" floor. Boats like that always have seats extending across that (I'd bet) are structural pieces. I think in three days I've had three different ideas about what would be perfect.... :/ ~ How will you brace your hull if not ribs or seats? |
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the pancake skiff - episode 1
"DougC" wrote in message ... On 8/2/2010 3:29 PM, mmc wrote: wrote in message news On 7/31/2010 8:46 PM, mmc wrote: http://spacecoast.craigslist.org/boa/1874022332.html Some great deals out there.......... The price is right, but the floor isn't flat... -and how well does it row? The engine is an "extra" for me. It'd be nice to have if I needed it, but don't think I'd use it much of the time. I don't want to listen to the noise of an engine all the time I'm moving. ~ Not my boat. Looks like the hull is flat bottomed which would lead to a flat floor. A flat bottom boat isn't going to track well when rowing, better off with a shallow v. Well okay, let me elaborate: I wand an "open" floor. Boats like that always have seats extending across that (I'd bet) are structural pieces. I think in three days I've had three different ideas about what would be perfect.... :/ ~ Thanks for the Freeship link. Very cool. |
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the pancake skiff - episode 1
On 8/2/2010 7:17 PM, mmc wrote:
wrote in message ... On 8/2/2010 3:29 PM, mmc wrote: wrote in message news On 7/31/2010 8:46 PM, mmc wrote: http://spacecoast.craigslist.org/boa/1874022332.html Some great deals out there.......... The price is right, but the floor isn't flat... -and how well does it row? The engine is an "extra" for me. It'd be nice to have if I needed it, but don't think I'd use it much of the time. I don't want to listen to the noise of an engine all the time I'm moving. ~ Not my boat. Looks like the hull is flat bottomed which would lead to a flat floor. A flat bottom boat isn't going to track well when rowing, better off with a shallow v. Well okay, let me elaborate: I wand an "open" floor. Boats like that always have seats extending across that (I'd bet) are structural pieces. I think in three days I've had three different ideas about what would be perfect.... :/ ~ How will you brace your hull if not ribs or seats? What I like the idea of is covering the hull inside-bottom mostly with a floor that is raised a couple inches above the water level of a typical load. Then you can install drains/plugs in the sides of the boat right at the floor level, and in a bad weather situation (with the plugs removed) the boat becomes self-bailing. ~ |
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the pancake skiff - episode 1
On 8/3/2010 8:58 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ting.com, says... wrote in message news On 7/31/2010 8:46 PM, mmc wrote: http://spacecoast.craigslist.org/boa/1874022332.html Some great deals out there.......... The price is right, but the floor isn't flat... -and how well does it row? The engine is an "extra" for me. It'd be nice to have if I needed it, but don't think I'd use it much of the time. I don't want to listen to the noise of an engine all the time I'm moving. ~ Not my boat. Looks like the hull is flat bottomed which would lead to a flat floor. A flat bottom boat isn't going to track well when rowing, better off with a shallow v. Or a couple of nice skegs... Where I live the lakes tend to have large shallow areas. This boat would need to be able to float in 3 inches of water with a typical load in it (~300 lbs, not including the boat). What I was thinking was to make a bottom that was nearly flat, and then have a removable skeg that hangs off the transom, like a rudder. That would be a lot easier to make than the retractable skegs that sea kayaks have. I wouldn't need the skeg all the time, since you don't need it in three inches of water anyway. -------- I bought a kayak a while back. The kayak is great in some ways, but not-so-much in others. I have no plans to get rid of it, but I am desiring an alternate for certain situations. The reason I considered building a boat at all is because I can't find anything already made that would do what I wanted. ~ |
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the pancake skiff - episode 1
"I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article m, says... "DougC" wrote in message news On 7/31/2010 8:46 PM, mmc wrote: http://spacecoast.craigslist.org/boa/1874022332.html Some great deals out there.......... The price is right, but the floor isn't flat... -and how well does it row? The engine is an "extra" for me. It'd be nice to have if I needed it, but don't think I'd use it much of the time. I don't want to listen to the noise of an engine all the time I'm moving. ~ Not my boat. Looks like the hull is flat bottomed which would lead to a flat floor. A flat bottom boat isn't going to track well when rowing, better off with a shallow v. Or a couple of nice skegs... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! Doug, you talked to Scotty (Tosk)? He's a pro at this stuff! |
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the pancake skiff - episode 1
Looking at your drawing my guess is tha the flat bottom will create a
lot of bow steer and the transom will create a lot of drag. Curve the bottom so that the stem is above the WL and the transom is right at the DWL and I think you have a winner. |
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the pancake skiff - episode 1
What I like the idea of is covering the hull inside-bottom mostly with
a floor that is raised a couple inches above the water level of a typical load. Then you can install drains/plugs in the sides of the boat right at the floor level, and in a bad weather situation (with the plugs removed) the boat becomes self-bailing. Sort of like a Water-Letter-Outer? If it was self bailing why would you have the plugs in the first place? |
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