On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 10:09:02 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On 1 Oct, 23:58, OzOne wrote:
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:51:57 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On 1 Oct, 05:56, OzOne wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:22:31 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Here's a link:-

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/220788/
subaru_impreza_wrx_sti_type_uk_versus_mitsubishi_ evo_x_fq300_sst.html

One of many derogatory comments from that link:-
"And what does all this leave you with once you actually settle down
to
driving? A slightly unsatisfying car, I m afraid. "

Guess the guy really wanted his satisfaction when he pulled up at the
ballet and the parking attendant started droolong over the
'Aston'.....

"F" the ballet!!
You would have loved what I did yesterday!!

Steering with the throttle ... hands on my knees...
Speed between 80 and 110 mph (hands on the knees,
not on the wheel)...
It was exactly like sailing without a rudder when you
balance the main versus the genoa. You would have
LOVED it Oz.

Don't tell me that you wouldn't have enjoyed
doing 180 degree turns, 270, 360, and 720 turns
in an Aston.

Regards

Donal

Hmmm, sounds like fun....next time try it in a more nimble car :-)

It was the most fun that I have had in more than 30 years!


Next time it looks like a F360 and AMV8 morning, followed
by rally instruction in the afternoon. Do they qualify as more
nimble?


Regards

Donal

It wouldn't take much to be more nimble that the 'Aston'.....I was
talking substantially more nimble.

Still It sounds like you're exploring your limits which is a good
thing




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

On 5 Oct, 03:22, OzOne wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 10:09:02 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On 1 Oct, 23:58, OzOne wrote:
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:51:57 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On 1 Oct, 05:56, OzOne wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:22:31 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Here's a link:-

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/220788/
subaru_impreza_wrx_sti_type_uk_versus_mitsubishi_ evo_x_fq300_sst.html

One of many derogatory comments from that link:-
"And what does all this leave you with once you actually settle down
to
driving? A slightly unsatisfying car, I m afraid. "

Guess the guy really wanted his satisfaction when he pulled up at the
ballet and the parking attendant started droolong over the
'Aston'.....

"F" the ballet!!
You would have loved what I did yesterday!!

Steering with the throttle ... hands on my knees...
Speed between 80 and 110 mph (hands on the knees,
not on the wheel)...
It was exactly like sailing without a rudder when you
balance the main versus the genoa. You would have
LOVED it Oz.

Don't tell me that you wouldn't have enjoyed
doing 180 degree turns, 270, 360, and 720 turns
in an Aston.

Regards

Donal

Hmmm, sounds like fun....next time try it in a more nimble car :-)

It was the most fun that I have had in more than 30 years!

Next time it looks like a F360 and AMV8 morning, followed
by rally instruction in the afternoon. Do they qualify as more
nimble?

Regards

Donal

It wouldn't take much to be more nimble that the 'Aston'.....I was
talking substantially more nimble.

So... the F360 doesn't make it?

What would you recommend?

I still haven't booked the next outing. A friend and I are going
to do a "Driving Experience" day for our next birthday (51). I am
genuinely open to suggestions!


Still It sounds like you're exploring your limits which is a good
thing

Last Tuesday... limits were not "explored", they were "exploded".


I'm looking forward to learning more about driving.


Regards


Donal
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On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 13:45:36 -0700 (PDT), wrote:



It wouldn't take much to be more nimble that the 'Aston'.....I was
talking substantially more nimble.

So... the F360 doesn't make it?

What would you recommend?

I still haven't booked the next outing. A friend and I are going
to do a "Driving Experience" day for our next birthday (51). I am
genuinely open to suggestions!


Still It sounds like you're exploring your limits which is a good
thing

Last Tuesday... limits were not "explored", they were "exploded".


I'm looking forward to learning more about driving.


Regards


Donal

The F360 is a great, noisy, boy racer toy .... for the highway.
It handles quite badly on the limit...much like a Porsche Carrera
andwould get blown away on a twisty mountain road bay even a
moderately tuned Evo...at a fraction of the price.

Drive one!
Donal, you will be absolutely amazed at the capacity of the
Evo...particularly if you are driving in a closed road or track
environment as it appears you are.
I'm 59 (in Feb) and feel like a 17yo kid when I'm pushing my
evo..seriously, give one a try.




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 13:45:36 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

BTW if you can get into a lowly MX5 on that track...give one of them a
go too.
Not bags of power but balanced like you won't believe and with brakes
that just suck the car down onto the road.




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

It wouldn't take much to be more nimble that the 'Aston'.....I was
talking substantially more nimble.



That's putting it nicely. A DB9 is a road car, not a canyon slicer.
The Evo is so much more fun. But folks like Donal literally see
something more shiny and they expect it must be better. The Aston is
VERY shiny, but it's so far down the rungs of handling that I find it
hard to believe any school course with use one. An M3 would make much
more sense. I actually don't think an Evo would be best to teach
someone like Donal though. The Evo is best for someone who understands
balance and the full benefit of the AYC system. He needs to play with
more basic metal before he can appreciate why the Evo is being stacked
up against supercars.




RB

On 6 Oct, 03:08, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
It wouldn't take much to be more nimble that the 'Aston'.....I was
talking substantially more nimble.

That's putting it nicely. A DB9 is a road car, not a canyon slicer.

You know absolutely *nothing* about driving a DB9. Your posts
make it clear that you have never even been a passenger in a DB9.



The Evo is so much more fun. But folks like Donal literally see
something more shiny and they expect it must be better. The Aston is
VERY shiny, but it's so far down the rungs of handling that I find it
hard to believe any school course with use one. An M3 would make much
more sense. I actually don't think an Evo would be best to teach
someone like Donal though. The Evo is best for someone who understands
balance and the full benefit of the AYC system. He needs to play with
more basic metal before he can appreciate why the Evo is being stacked
up against supercars.

I agree. The Evo is best for people understand balance. The DB9 is
for people who don't need to bother learning about balance. You
can floor it into a sharp corner, and the computer system will
take care of balance. When I mentioned 50mph right angle turns in an
earlier post, the bit that I omitted was that they were done on a
wet skid pan! The car skidded less than 8 feet!!!

Bob, you don't seem to understand the difference between a "Supercar"
and a turbo-charged family saloon. The DB9's handling is not as good
as the Bugati Veyron. But, it is much better than the turbo-charged
Evo.

Now, why don't you tell us where you took that photo of M31? As I
said
earlier, it wasn't taken within 50 miles of New York.


Pawn to K5. Check.


Regards

Donal
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wrote:

Bob, you don't seem to understand the difference between a "Supercar"
and a turbo-charged family saloon. The DB9's handling is not as good
as the Bugati Veyron. But, it is much better than the turbo-charged
Evo.

Now, why don't you tell us where you took that photo of M31? As I
said
earlier, it wasn't taken within 50 miles of New York.


Pawn to K5. Check.

Black resigns.

Cheers
Martin

You
can floor it into a sharp corner, and the computer system will
take care of balance.



It will? How? Using the traction control to the rear diff or the
stability control?

Donal, no one thinks a DB9 handles better than a Evo. That's probably
because it wasn't designed to. To put it in perspective a tuned Evo
will be more nimble than a new GT-R.


With time you may learn about cars and driving. A LOT of time.



RB

Now, why don't you tell us where you took that photo of M31? As I
said
earlier, it wasn't taken within 50 miles of New York.





I'm guessing that you mean 50 miles from Manhattan or even the
boroughs.
I know you're pretty ignorant, but you might want to check maximum
elevation and distance of Kent Cliffs. The photo was taken from my
deck as stated.

You checkmated yourself a while back with this one.



RB

On 7 Oct, 01:00, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Now, why don't you tell us where you took that photo of M31? As I
said
earlier, it wasn't taken within 50 miles of New York.

I'm guessing that you mean 50 miles from Manhattan or even the
boroughs.
I know you're pretty ignorant, but you might want to check maximum
elevation and distance of Kent Cliffs. The photo was taken from my
deck as stated.

You checkmated yourself a while back with this one.

OK Kent Cliffs is *60* miles north of NYC.
My statement was that it taken more than 50 miles
from NY.
Far from checkmating myself, I have shown you
what can be gleaned from even a poor quality image.

Regards


Donal
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