On Sep 8, 10:05 pm, Marty wrote:
Capt. Rob wrote:
On Sep 8, 5:50 pm, wrote:
On 7 Sep, 17:50, "Capt. Rob" wrote:

Donal, you just go on and on proving that you're into bloated blvd.
cruisers and that's fine with me! It must be really killing you that I
will own such a car purely as a toy.
Noisy? BWAHAHAHAAAHHAHAHAHAHA!
Well, there is a huge difference between the
high pitched whine of a 4 cylinder Evo, and the
low pitched growl of a 12 cylinder of a DB9.

Yup...the 4 is more fun and uses less gas!

Real power actually sounds nice. Cheap power
sounds like a modern Japanese motorbike.

Yeah, too bad those Japanese bikes utterly rule the world of
performance biking,

Bob, one word, .... Ducati........

Cheers
Marty



I dig the Duacti's, Marty. In fact, because I love cars, I pretty much
can appreciate most cars. Guys like Donal have no clue. They read
magazines and dream about silly cars like the AM. He's so pathetic he
thinks there's a pecking order for cars that will elevate his status.
He needs to drive a MazdaSpeed3 and then his AM and tell me which one
is more fun on a twisty road. Of course the Evo X is more fun than
either.
BTW, the leather seats in the Evo have suede finished bottoms to hold
the driver in place during hard cornering. They are very nicely done.
The lavish seats in the AM are...well....lavish. They don't hold a
driver in place very well. Donal is a typical consumer dreaming of
exotic cars and missing the boat yet again.
Soon enough I'll be driving a GT-R. It's a supercar that trounces the
AM in every area, including fit & finish. It's about the handling and
the way a car feels blasting out of a turn, not who's car gets the
spot in front of the Casino. Someday James Donal Bond may learn that,
but it won't happen during any "advanced driving course" of course!

Oh my!


R.

On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 19:50:05 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote:

On Sep 8, 10:05 pm, Marty wrote:
Capt. Rob wrote:
On Sep 8, 5:50 pm, wrote:
On 7 Sep, 17:50, "Capt. Rob" wrote:

Donal, you just go on and on proving that you're into bloated blvd.
cruisers and that's fine with me! It must be really killing you that I
will own such a car purely as a toy.
Noisy? BWAHAHAHAAAHHAHAHAHAHA!
Well, there is a huge difference between the
high pitched whine of a 4 cylinder Evo, and the
low pitched growl of a 12 cylinder of a DB9.

Yup...the 4 is more fun and uses less gas!

Real power actually sounds nice. Cheap power
sounds like a modern Japanese motorbike.

Yeah, too bad those Japanese bikes utterly rule the world of
performance biking,

Bob, one word, .... Ducati........

Cheers
Marty



I dig the Duacti's, Marty. In fact, because I love cars, I pretty much
can appreciate most cars.

Um... Duacti doesn't make cars, Rob. Neither does Ducati.

On Sep 9, 6:28 am, wrote:
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 19:50:05 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"



wrote:
On Sep 8, 10:05 pm, Marty wrote:
Capt. Rob wrote:
On Sep 8, 5:50 pm, wrote:
On 7 Sep, 17:50, "Capt. Rob" wrote:

Donal, you just go on and on proving that you're into bloated blvd.
cruisers and that's fine with me! It must be really killing you that I
will own such a car purely as a toy.
Noisy? BWAHAHAHAAAHHAHAHAHAHA!
Well, there is a huge difference between the
high pitched whine of a 4 cylinder Evo, and the
low pitched growl of a 12 cylinder of a DB9.

Yup...the 4 is more fun and uses less gas!

Real power actually sounds nice. Cheap power
sounds like a modern Japanese motorbike.

Yeah, too bad those Japanese bikes utterly rule the world of
performance biking,

Bob, one word, .... Ducati........

Cheers
Marty

I dig the Duacti's, Marty. In fact, because I love cars, I pretty much
can appreciate most cars.

Um... Duacti doesn't make cars, Rob. Neither does Ducati.



Um....who said they did? I was referring to bikes and how Japanese
models have eclipsed just about everything.
Do let us know how the driving class goes.




R.

On Sep 9, 4:18*am, wrote:
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 04:15:33 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"





wrote:
On Sep 9, 6:28 am, wrote:
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 19:50:05 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"

wrote:
On Sep 8, 10:05 pm, Marty wrote:
Capt. Rob wrote:
On Sep 8, 5:50 pm, wrote:
On 7 Sep, 17:50, "Capt. Rob" wrote:

Donal, you just go on and on proving that you're into bloated blvd.
cruisers and that's fine with me! It must be really killing you that I
will own such a car purely as a toy.
Noisy? BWAHAHAHAAAHHAHAHAHAHA!
Well, there is a huge difference between the
high pitched whine of a 4 cylinder Evo, and the
low pitched growl of a 12 cylinder of a DB9.

Yup...the 4 is more fun and uses less gas!

Real power actually sounds nice. *Cheap power
sounds like a modern Japanese motorbike.

Yeah, too bad those Japanese bikes utterly rule the world of
performance biking,

Bob, one word, *.... Ducati........

Cheers
Marty

I dig the Duacti's, Marty. In fact, because I love cars, I pretty much
can appreciate most cars.

Um... Duacti doesn't make cars, Rob. Neither does Ducati.

Um....who said they did? I was referring to bikes and how Japanese
models have eclipsed just about everything.
Do let us know how the driving class goes.

Um... "I dig the Duacti's, Marty. In fact, because I love cars, I
pretty much can appreciate most cars."- Hide quoted text -

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Here's what I wrote....

Yeah, too bad those Japanese bikes utterly rule the world of
performance biking, but they're not exactly cheap either. Donal,
everything you've said smacks of the 80's. That was when big engines
and Harley/Ducati seemed wonderful. Then the Nissan 300 Twin Turbo
came out....and everything changed in a day.

So we can assume that YOU think I meant that Ducati and Harley were
eclisped by the Twin Turbo!!!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!


R

On Sep 9, 5:52*am, wrote:
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 06:18:14 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"





wrote:
On Sep 9, 4:18*am, wrote:
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 04:15:33 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"

wrote:
On Sep 9, 6:28 am, wrote:
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 19:50:05 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"

wrote:
On Sep 8, 10:05 pm, Marty wrote:
Capt. Rob wrote:
On Sep 8, 5:50 pm, wrote:
On 7 Sep, 17:50, "Capt. Rob" wrote:

Donal, you just go on and on proving that you're into bloated blvd.
cruisers and that's fine with me! It must be really killing you that I
will own such a car purely as a toy.
Noisy? BWAHAHAHAAAHHAHAHAHAHA!
Well, there is a huge difference between the
high pitched whine of a 4 cylinder Evo, and the
low pitched growl of a 12 cylinder of a DB9.

Yup...the 4 is more fun and uses less gas!

Real power actually sounds nice. *Cheap power
sounds like a modern Japanese motorbike.

Yeah, too bad those Japanese bikes utterly rule the world of
performance biking,

Bob, one word, *.... Ducati........

Cheers
Marty

I dig the Duacti's, Marty. In fact, because I love cars, I pretty much
can appreciate most cars.

Um... Duacti doesn't make cars, Rob. Neither does Ducati.

Um....who said they did? I was referring to bikes and how Japanese
models have eclipsed just about everything.
Do let us know how the driving class goes.

Um... "I dig the Duacti's, Marty. In fact, because I love cars, I
pretty much can appreciate most cars."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Here's what I wrote....

"I dig the Duacti's, Marty. In fact, because I love cars, I
pretty much can appreciate most cars."

There you go again!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



Donal thinks Harley Davidson's marketshare was impacted by the Nissan
Twin Turbo of the early nineties. He thinks a DB9 handles like a 911
AWD or Evo X. He's taking driving lessons IN a DB9!
And he has no sailboat. I doubt he has a world class handling car
either, but he's afraid to say.



RB

wrote in message
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Harley occupies a particular niche that is rarely impacted in any
meaningful way by other brands. The exception was the revolution
caused when Honda entered the US market in the early 1960's and
increased overall motorcycle ownership exponentially. Other than that,
people who want a Harley, usually don't want anything else. It has
nothing to do with the relative merits of different brands.



You got that right. Harley sells image to mostly middle aged people who need
one.

On Sep 9, 6:47*am, "redbard" wrote:
wrote in message

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Harley occupies a particular niche that is rarely impacted in any
meaningful way by other brands. The exception was the revolution
caused when Honda entered the US market in the early 1960's and
increased overall motorcycle ownership exponentially. Other than that,
people who want a Harley, usually don't want anything else. It has
nothing to do with the relative merits of different brands.

You got that right. Harley sells image to mostly middle aged people who need
one.



Actually, you're both clueless. By the mid 90's HD was fighting for
it's life due to serious quality control issues. They had lost a huge
share of the market and survived MAINLY due to their parts business.
They fixed their problems and are strong again, but they can't compete
with other builds for quality at all. Cosmetics are gorgeous,
performance is just short of awful.



RB