A recent posting by Rosalie B. solidified my opinion that women and sailing
just don't mix. It's a crying shame that some sailormen are burdened with
women that they will never be able to please but have to carry as a burden.

This is what I am referring to. Rosalie B. wrote: "I would have said a
smaller boat myself - either a CSY 33 or 37. But that's not what Bob
wanted, and the love of a specific boat isn't rational."

So, right away it seems that the poor man is viewed as irrational for
wanting the boat he wanted, not what she wanted. Right off the bat, a
source of contention?

And then she wrote this: "I find both sailing and fishing a little bit
boring. I go with Bob because I think he wants me to go, and I think he
needs me to go. I would be just as happy at home. BUT - if I go sailing, I
want a boat that is comfortable to live on, not just someplace to camp out
on the water."

Again the poor man's sailing is ruled by a spouse who doesn't even like
sailing. She finds it 'boring.' She only tags along because she thinks
she's wanted. She'd rather be at home but in lieu of home she wants a
floating home. While her loyalty is admirable, being a man myself, I think I
would quickly come to understand that she wasn't really too keen on sailing
and that she was doing it only because she thought I needed her. This would
do little to bolster my self-esteem and it would make me feel like I had to
carry the entire burden when sailing. How could I really enjoy sailing when
I knew my mate didn't enjoy it? How could I enjoy sailing when I had to sail
a floating home with a new problem to address every day just to make her
happy? Sort of ruins the experience for a man, doesn't it?

And she continues: "It's not that fixed a schedule - it is only that if we
don't go to a marina, one of us has to cook, and that's not going to be me.
So I try to plan so that we can go somewhere that Bob doesn't mind going and
I would like to see and where we can pull in and go to a restaurant for
dinner. A plan is not the same as a schedule."

A woman who doesn't cook? What's up with that? What good is a woman who
doesn't cook aboard a boat? The poor man! He must be a saint to put up with
what he puts up with. Even to the extent that he has to sail the boat to
places just because she wants to see them or to eat at a particular
restaurant. I couldn't live like that, could you?

Then there's this gem: "I don't like outboards (we have two), and I've never
claimed to be a sailor - pure or any other kind."

Imagine how the poor husband feels. He has a wife who proudly proclaims
she's no sailor. In other words the entire burden is his. Not only that, but
along with his woman comes a lot of baggage, so much so that one cannot see
overtaking vessels because of the large and high pile of stuff abaft the
helm that can't be seen over. Not only is this dangerous but it's
unnecessary if only the woman was a sailor. A sailor would not abide
dangerous conditions such as that, would they?

My intent is NOT to pick on Rosalie because, in many ways, she's a loyal and
remarkable woman. But, my intent is to simply point out how women and
sailing don't mix. It really is too bad that this is so often the case. Is
it any wonder that real men are so often found plying the oceans of the
world lone handing?

Wilbur Hubbard

"Gregory Hall" wrote in message
...
A recent posting by Rosalie B. solidified my opinion that women and sailing
just don't mix. It's a crying shame that some sailormen are burdened with
women that they will never be able to please but have to carry as a burden.

This is what I am referring to. Rosalie B. wrote: "I would have said a
smaller boat myself - either a CSY 33 or 37. But that's not what Bob
wanted, and the love of a specific boat isn't rational."

So, right away it seems that the poor man is viewed as irrational for
wanting the boat he wanted, not what she wanted. Right off the bat, a
source of contention?

And then she wrote this: "I find both sailing and fishing a little bit
boring. I go with Bob because I think he wants me to go, and I think he
needs me to go. I would be just as happy at home. BUT - if I go sailing,
I want a boat that is comfortable to live on, not just someplace to camp
out on the water."

Again the poor man's sailing is ruled by a spouse who doesn't even like
sailing. She finds it 'boring.' She only tags along because she thinks
she's wanted. She'd rather be at home but in lieu of home she wants a
floating home. While her loyalty is admirable, being a man myself, I think
I would quickly come to understand that she wasn't really too keen on
sailing and that she was doing it only because she thought I needed her.
This would do little to bolster my self-esteem and it would make me feel
like I had to carry the entire burden when sailing. How could I really
enjoy sailing when I knew my mate didn't enjoy it? How could I enjoy
sailing when I had to sail a floating home with a new problem to address
every day just to make her happy? Sort of ruins the experience for a man,
doesn't it?

And she continues: "It's not that fixed a schedule - it is only that if we
don't go to a marina, one of us has to cook, and that's not going to be
me. So I try to plan so that we can go somewhere that Bob doesn't mind
going and I would like to see and where we can pull in and go to a
restaurant for dinner. A plan is not the same as a schedule."

A woman who doesn't cook? What's up with that? What good is a woman who
doesn't cook aboard a boat? The poor man! He must be a saint to put up
with what he puts up with. Even to the extent that he has to sail the boat
to places just because she wants to see them or to eat at a particular
restaurant. I couldn't live like that, could you?

Then there's this gem: "I don't like outboards (we have two), and I've
never claimed to be a sailor - pure or any other kind."

Imagine how the poor husband feels. He has a wife who proudly proclaims
she's no sailor. In other words the entire burden is his. Not only that,
but along with his woman comes a lot of baggage, so much so that one
cannot see overtaking vessels because of the large and high pile of stuff
abaft the helm that can't be seen over. Not only is this dangerous but
it's unnecessary if only the woman was a sailor. A sailor would not abide
dangerous conditions such as that, would they?

My intent is NOT to pick on Rosalie because, in many ways, she's a loyal
and remarkable woman. But, my intent is to simply point out how women and
sailing don't mix. It really is too bad that this is so often the case. Is
it any wonder that real men are so often found plying the oceans of the
world lone handing?

Wilbur Hubbard


I wish you'd stop trying to impersonate me, Greg. You're just trying to get
Rosalie B. to hate me. But I think she already does hate me anyway. She was
pretty short with me in that post you got the quotes out of.

Wilbur Hubbard
(the real Wilbur Hubbard aka Gilligan, Simple Simon, Bluto, Olive Oyle and
oh so many more)

On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:34:46 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
wrote:

A recent posting by Rosalie B.
.... real men are so often found plying the oceans of the
world lone handing?

Wilbur Hubbard

Oh my word! He cannot even keep his sock-puppets
signed off appropriately.

Brian W

"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:34:46 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
wrote:

A recent posting by Rosalie B.
.... real men are so often found plying the oceans of the
world lone handing?

Wilbur Hubbard

Oh my word! He cannot even keep his sock-puppets
signed off appropriately.

Brian W


Naw, that's just Greg fooling around. He's been doing it for quite a while
now. For some reason he thinks it bothers me signing my name to his posts.
Kinda dumb when his name appears in the From: line, duh! Check out his
headers. He posts from alt. net. I use Octanews. Two completely different
news servers.

Even though I, Wilbur Hubbard, am a multi-millionaire, I didn't get that way
wasting money on two of anything when one will do. That's why I recently
sold my Swan 68. I turned a tidy profit on her as well . . .

I hope this helps.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:34:46 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
wrote:

A recent posting by Rosalie B. solidified my opinion that women and sailing
just don't mix. It's a crying shame that some sailormen are burdened with
women that they will never be able to please but have to carry as a burden.

This is what I am referring to. Rosalie B. wrote: "I would have said a
smaller boat myself - either a CSY 33 or 37. But that's not what Bob
wanted, and the love of a specific boat isn't rational."

So, right away it seems that the poor man is viewed as irrational for
wanting the boat he wanted, not what she wanted. Right off the bat, a
source of contention?

And then she wrote this: "I find both sailing and fishing a little bit
boring. I go with Bob because I think he wants me to go, and I think he
needs me to go. I would be just as happy at home. BUT - if I go sailing, I
want a boat that is comfortable to live on, not just someplace to camp out
on the water."

Again the poor man's sailing is ruled by a spouse who doesn't even like
sailing. She finds it 'boring.' She only tags along because she thinks
she's wanted. She'd rather be at home but in lieu of home she wants a
floating home. While her loyalty is admirable, being a man myself, I think I
would quickly come to understand that she wasn't really too keen on sailing
and that she was doing it only because she thought I needed her. This would
do little to bolster my self-esteem and it would make me feel like I had to
carry the entire burden when sailing. How could I really enjoy sailing when
I knew my mate didn't enjoy it? How could I enjoy sailing when I had to sail
a floating home with a new problem to address every day just to make her
happy? Sort of ruins the experience for a man, doesn't it?

And she continues: "It's not that fixed a schedule - it is only that if we
don't go to a marina, one of us has to cook, and that's not going to be me.
So I try to plan so that we can go somewhere that Bob doesn't mind going and
I would like to see and where we can pull in and go to a restaurant for
dinner. A plan is not the same as a schedule."

A woman who doesn't cook? What's up with that? What good is a woman who
doesn't cook aboard a boat? The poor man! He must be a saint to put up with
what he puts up with. Even to the extent that he has to sail the boat to
places just because she wants to see them or to eat at a particular
restaurant. I couldn't live like that, could you?

Then there's this gem: "I don't like outboards (we have two), and I've never
claimed to be a sailor - pure or any other kind."

Imagine how the poor husband feels. He has a wife who proudly proclaims
she's no sailor. In other words the entire burden is his. Not only that, but
along with his woman comes a lot of baggage, so much so that one cannot see
overtaking vessels because of the large and high pile of stuff abaft the
helm that can't be seen over. Not only is this dangerous but it's
unnecessary if only the woman was a sailor. A sailor would not abide
dangerous conditions such as that, would they?

My intent is NOT to pick on Rosalie because, in many ways, she's a loyal and
remarkable woman. But, my intent is to simply point out how women and
sailing don't mix. It really is too bad that this is so often the case. Is
it any wonder that real men are so often found plying the oceans of the
world lone handing?

Wilbur Hubbard

Hey Dumbo!

If you are going to post as Gregory Hall try to remember to change
your signature block to Gregory otherwise you have just identified old
Greg as another of your sock puppets and now you'll have to go to the
bother of making a new one.

Seems kind of sick to me; Wilie-boy extolling the merits of his
alter-ego Capt. Neil and supported by his host of alternative
personalities. Multiple Personality Syndrome.



Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:39:13 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


"Gregory Hall" wrote in message
...
A recent posting by Rosalie B. solidified my opinion that women and sailing
just don't mix. It's a crying shame that some sailormen are burdened with
women that they will never be able to please but have to carry as a burden.

This is what I am referring to. Rosalie B. wrote: "I would have said a
smaller boat myself - either a CSY 33 or 37. But that's not what Bob
wanted, and the love of a specific boat isn't rational."

So, right away it seems that the poor man is viewed as irrational for
wanting the boat he wanted, not what she wanted. Right off the bat, a
source of contention?

And then she wrote this: "I find both sailing and fishing a little bit
boring. I go with Bob because I think he wants me to go, and I think he
needs me to go. I would be just as happy at home. BUT - if I go sailing,
I want a boat that is comfortable to live on, not just someplace to camp
out on the water."

Again the poor man's sailing is ruled by a spouse who doesn't even like
sailing. She finds it 'boring.' She only tags along because she thinks
she's wanted. She'd rather be at home but in lieu of home she wants a
floating home. While her loyalty is admirable, being a man myself, I think
I would quickly come to understand that she wasn't really too keen on
sailing and that she was doing it only because she thought I needed her.
This would do little to bolster my self-esteem and it would make me feel
like I had to carry the entire burden when sailing. How could I really
enjoy sailing when I knew my mate didn't enjoy it? How could I enjoy
sailing when I had to sail a floating home with a new problem to address
every day just to make her happy? Sort of ruins the experience for a man,
doesn't it?

And she continues: "It's not that fixed a schedule - it is only that if we
don't go to a marina, one of us has to cook, and that's not going to be
me. So I try to plan so that we can go somewhere that Bob doesn't mind
going and I would like to see and where we can pull in and go to a
restaurant for dinner. A plan is not the same as a schedule."

A woman who doesn't cook? What's up with that? What good is a woman who
doesn't cook aboard a boat? The poor man! He must be a saint to put up
with what he puts up with. Even to the extent that he has to sail the boat
to places just because she wants to see them or to eat at a particular
restaurant. I couldn't live like that, could you?

Then there's this gem: "I don't like outboards (we have two), and I've
never claimed to be a sailor - pure or any other kind."

Imagine how the poor husband feels. He has a wife who proudly proclaims
she's no sailor. In other words the entire burden is his. Not only that,
but along with his woman comes a lot of baggage, so much so that one
cannot see overtaking vessels because of the large and high pile of stuff
abaft the helm that can't be seen over. Not only is this dangerous but
it's unnecessary if only the woman was a sailor. A sailor would not abide
dangerous conditions such as that, would they?

My intent is NOT to pick on Rosalie because, in many ways, she's a loyal
and remarkable woman. But, my intent is to simply point out how women and
sailing don't mix. It really is too bad that this is so often the case. Is
it any wonder that real men are so often found plying the oceans of the
world lone handing?

Wilbur Hubbard


I wish you'd stop trying to impersonate me, Greg. You're just trying to get
Rosalie B. to hate me. But I think she already does hate me anyway. She was
pretty short with me in that post you got the quotes out of.

Wilbur Hubbard
(the real Wilbur Hubbard aka Gilligan, Simple Simon, Bluto, Olive Oyle and
oh so many more)


Also known as "The Sage of the Internet", or alternately Dumbass.....
Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
news big snip

Also known as "The Sage of the Internet", or alternately Dumbass.....
Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)


I thought that big typhoon wiped you out.

Maybe it was mis-reported. Just your dock that got it? Ha ha!

Wilbur Hubbard

"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
...
snipped some

Hey Dumbo!

If you are going to post as Gregory Hall try to remember to change
your signature block to Gregory otherwise you have just identified old
Greg as another of your sock puppets and now you'll have to go to the
bother of making a new one.

Huh? It was Gregory posting as ME. He does that - been doing it off and on
for some time now. He thinks it ****es me off but it doesn't. Unless he
forges the headers and changes Gregory Hall to Wilbur Hubbard in the From:
line it's pretty obvious that it's him not me.

Seems kind of sick to me; Wilie-boy extolling the merits of his
alter-ego Capt. Neil and supported by his host of alternative
personalities. Multiple Personality Syndrome.

Not! Just a host of devoted fans!


Wilbur Hubbard

On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:28:48 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
.. .
snipped some

Hey Dumbo!

If you are going to post as Gregory Hall try to remember to change
your signature block to Gregory otherwise you have just identified old
Greg as another of your sock puppets and now you'll have to go to the
bother of making a new one.

Huh? It was Gregory posting as ME. He does that - been doing it off and on
for some time now. He thinks it ****es me off but it doesn't. Unless he
forges the headers and changes Gregory Hall to Wilbur Hubbard in the From:
line it's pretty obvious that it's him not me.

Seems kind of sick to me; Wilie-boy extolling the merits of his
alter-ego Capt. Neil and supported by his host of alternative
personalities. Multiple Personality Syndrome.

Not! Just a host of devoted fans!


Wilbur Hubbard


Wliile-boy, didn't your mama teach you that it was a sin to tell a
lie?

O.K., you screwed up and forgot to change your signature and you got
caught. Stop making excuses, just say you're sorry for the mistake and
move on. And next time be a little more careful.

Multiple personalities aren't life threatening and they are treatable
so be of good heart and see your psychologist.

Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

Bruce in Bangkok wrote

Seems kind of sick to me; Wilie-boy extolling the merits of his
alter-ego Capt. Neil and supported by his host of alternative
personalities. Multiple Personality Syndrome.

Not! Just a host of devoted fans!


Wilbur Hubbard


Wliile-boy, didn't your mama teach you that it was a sin to tell a
lie?

O.K., you screwed up and forgot to change your signature and you got
caught. Stop making excuses, just say you're sorry for the mistake and
move on. And next time be a little more careful.

Multiple personalities aren't life threatening and they are treatable
so be of good heart and see your psychologist.

You got to feel sorry for someone that has to make up their on line
friends to talk to. Poor Neal.