Tubes -hahahahahahaha!!!!! aaahahahahaahahaaaa!!!!! Tubes are a joke
unless you like colored sound. Higher noise, prone to magnetic
inteference,
high temperatures, impact noise, thermal noise, noise, noise noise!





Well, at least your not ashamed to sound ignorant. All sound is
colored, dummy. The minute sound waves hits air it's colored. The
point of tubes IS to color sound. Like most rank amateurs you're
utterly confused about the differences between a system that is
emotionally involving to listen to and a highly accurate system. You
also have no knowledge of how better systems tame common harsh
recordings.
As to noise? What noise? Measureable noise? Audible noise? My system
is isolated by power conditioners and it's own independent house
circuit that I had installed. There is no audible noise or distortion.
Sorry. You're a Yugo owner trying to discuss M car handling. It's
leaving a visible stain on your pants and thereby exciting Ganzy.

Trading in the LGT soon, though the modified AWD is now doing in the
1/4 mile in under 13 seconds! These tires cost more than your boat!
Suzanne wants to keep it as a safe little commuter car, but we'll see.

http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p374369856-5.jpg


The Good Captain
35s5
NY

On Mar 18, 11:10 pm, "Scotty" wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message


roups.com...

Well, I've got a grandson now. Kids bought a Nissan Quest
minivan, seems nice. Been working on my old BMW bike and
waiting for warmer weather to get it, and my boat back in
action.

Congrats on the grandson. Take some good pics.

thanks, got tons, but parents don't want any on the net.
When are you sailing down to the Ches. Bay?

Scotty




Not this season I'm sure. We'll be bopping about locally and sailing
to Mystic a couple of times to stay with friends. We missed sailing to
Great Gull Island last year (It's a research station I used to
volunteer for), so we'll try again this year. The problem is the
holding right around the island is poor for just about everything, but
a fishing friend says he knows a good spot for our boat.
If you get near City Island drop me an e-mail and we'll go for sail.
Maybe I'll hit a rock for you!


The Good Captain
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
...

Robbie,

You need to warm up, just like your tube amp, to even measure on any scale
about tube knowledge.


Well, at least your not ashamed to sound ignorant. All sound is
colored, dummy. The minute sound waves hits air it's colored.

Air in your tubes? Guess what your ears aren't perfect. They are unbalanced
in amplitude, frequency and directional response. Any audio optimization is
to your ears, not someone elses. The mechanical operation of the ear as a
speaker is fairly crude and worsens with age. All that stereo junk doesn't
fix a thing. The channel separation of your ears isn't that great either due
to bone conduction. So tell us what you can detect.

The
point of tubes IS to color sound.

Yes it is and I said so. The make great musical instrument amplifiers. Got a
whammy bar on that stereo of yours? Fuzz pedal? Do windmills with your
speakers?

Like most rank amateurs you're
utterly confused about the differences between a system that is
emotionally involving to listen to and a highly accurate system.

I prefer accuracy. Precision is emotion, raw and unfiltered.

You
also have no knowledge of how better systems tame common harsh
recordings.

What is harsh? My $39 Sanyo boom box can tame a harsh recording too!

As to noise? What noise? Measureable noise? Audible noise? My system
is isolated by power conditioners and it's own independent house
circuit that I had installed. There is no audible noise or distortion.

The noise comes from the tubes themselves. It is inherent in their
operation. Tubes are not used in low noise circuits. Prove me wrong, show
me some verifiable low noise tube circuit that have noise lower than
equivalent transistor circuits. The noise and distortion is there and you
can hear it plain as day. With no music input, turn the volume up all the
way - do you hear silence? Or noise?


Sorry. You're a Yugo owner trying to discuss M car handling. It's
leaving a visible stain on your pants and thereby exciting Ganzy.

You have no concept of electronics, circuitry, physics of noise or the like.
This is like Edward Teller discussing nuclear physics with a housewife
baking brownies. You should pull your skirt up over your head and run away
in shame.



Trading in the LGT soon, though the modified AWD is now doing in the
1/4 mile in under 13 seconds! These tires cost more than your boat!
Suzanne wants to keep it as a safe little commuter car, but we'll see.

http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p374369856-5.jpg


That's wonderful! I'll be driving the same vehicles I have now 20 years from
now.

"As I pass through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all."

In 20 years will your LGT still go 1/4 mile in under 13? The satisfaction
from my vehicles will be even more in 20 years! Economy and durability will
win in the end. Contentment is everlasting, thrills are not. Beauty and
strength are fleeting, character and principle are forged into the soul.

Yes Robbie, those tires probably cost more than my boat. You traded your
soul to get them.

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...




Does squirty cheese come out of your nostrils when you
puke?


yes. and out my ears when I fart.


Careful Scott, "Crantz" will get excited by this sort of
explanation.


Crantz is always excited, he's an excitable boy!



Yes I am and Ganz likes boys! That excites me!

On Mar 19, 10:38 am, "Bob Crantz" wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

...

Robbie,

You need to warm up, just like your tube amp, to even measure on any scale
about tube knowledge.


Knowledge in practical usage of hi end audio gear that you've owned?
Prove it.


The channel separation of your ears isn't that great either due
to bone conduction. So tell us what you can detect.


Compared to a Bryston 4B with a SS preamp and Musical Fidelity CD
player, my tube based system creates a more 3 dimensional sound stage,
sweeter less fatiquing highs and the best midrange I've EVER heard
from a planar design. MY ears are the final decider, which is why you
have no argument of any kind and no real point.



I prefer accuracy. Precision is emotion, raw and unfiltered.


Once again you speak from ignorance. 95% of all recordings are badly
recorded, or are very flawed in the mix or worse. You want a deadly
accurate system? I already owned it. Awful unless I came across a rare
superb recording. No I have a system that is 90% as accurate but
renders lesser or older recordings far better. The result is that more
music sounds great. Keep in mind that I still own high end SS gear for
my theater and can compare. There's no doubt that the tube based gear
is simply sweeter and more musical.


What is harsh? My $39 Sanyo boom box can tame a harsh recording too!

No it can't. And you don't know what harsh means in HEA? Nuff said.


The noise comes from the tubes themselves.


It's not audible compared to the SS gear I have side by side with it.
That makes you wrong. There are hundreds of reviews of tube gear and
rarely does noise get mentioned as an audible issue. My Metis preamp
produces less noise than my B&K SS pre at max volume. Neither has
audible noise when actually playing. Sorry, you're just wrong.

You have no concept of electronics, circuitry, physics of noise or the like.
This is like Edward Teller discussing nuclear physics with a housewife.


There are guys who study numbers and think they have a clue. A ton of
bad audio gear was designed that way. The amp you listed is a great
example. Did you hear one? Do you know the intracasies of it's design
and have you experimented with it with various planar designs? Of
course you haven't. You have NO clue and NO practical experience
because you have NO gear of any worth and you listened to NO gear of
any worth.


That's wonderful! I'll be driving the same vehicles I have now 20 years from
now.


That's a drag. You have my sympathy.


In 20 years will your LGT still go 1/4 mile in under 13? The satisfaction
from my vehicles will be even more in 20 years! Economy and durability will
win in the end. Contentment is everlasting, thrills are not. Beauty and
strength are fleeting, character and principle are forged into the soul.

Yes Robbie, those tires probably cost more than my boat. You traded your
soul to get them.

Sorry....I have durability where it counts...in my family and friends.
I don't expect to give up thrills in any exchange. I also have
economy, but where it counts. So, you see...I enjoy both and my soul,
thrilled and uplifted remains intact.


The Good Captain
35s5
NY

On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:41:38 -0600, "Bob Crantz"
wrote this crap:




Crantz is always excited, he's an excitable boy!



Yes I am and Ganz likes boys! That excites me!


Get a room!




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Anchoring at Great Gull Island wouldn't be much fun. Surrounded by
lots of rocks, and not much in the way of protection. You would be
better off anchoring overnight in West Harbor on Fisher's Island, or
better yet, Coecles Harbor, which is very protected and has it's own
nature preserve to explore. Much more interesting and beautiful to
look at. You can always do a daysail and picnic to Great Gull if you
want to stop there briefly for old times sake. It's not far from
either West Harbor or Coecles, and could be a place to stop over
between those two, far more desirable anchorages.



The research station is still active and I'm friends with the
director, which is why I want to visit. I'll figure something out.
Docking is not an option as there's not enough water. I used to come
on a 40 foot trawler and even that was pretty dicey. There may be
better holding near little gull and I could dinghy over from there.
But I'm nervous enough about the currents and holding to not try it on
anything but a calm day.


The Good Captain
35s5
NY

wrote:
.....you see...I enjoy both and my soul,
thrilled and uplifted remains intact.


Bubbles is still bragging about how expensive his possessions are, but
now he has gained a level of refinement in talking about how bragging
uplifts his soul. And some people say there's no such thing as
progress!

DSK

wrote in message
...
wrote:
.....you see...I enjoy both and my soul,
thrilled and uplifted remains intact.


Bubbles is still bragging about how expensive his possessions are, but
now he has gained a level of refinement in talking about how bragging
uplifts his soul. And some people say there's no such thing as
progress!

DSK


It remains disquieting, however.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

On Mar 19, 9:53 pm, wrote:
wrote:
.....you see...I enjoy both and my soul,
thrilled and uplifted remains intact.

Bubbles is still bragging about how expensive his possessions are, but
now he has gained a level of refinement in talking about how bragging
uplifts his soul. And some people say there's no such thing as
progress!

DSK




Look everyone! I dragged the "King of Keels" out of the swamp and into
the mud!!!! Whoopeee!!!

(Don't worry, Edgar. We all know YOU have got the group moving again!.


The Good Captain
35s5
NY