Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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Don't be so pessimistic. Producing RF takes very little energy. The
system could be the salvation of mankind. It could be an infinite
supply of almost free energy. If enough hydrogen is produced it can
be burned to produce plenty enough electricity to produce the RF.
All it would take is just a little surplus hydrogen energy and you
could have extra electricity. The perpetual motion machine we all
fantasize about.

Wilbur Hubbard
What simplistic bull****! Getting more energy out than goes in??
This sums up Wilma's level of understanding of the world. Don't
bother to read any further.


You never heard of nuclear fusion? That's more energy out than in.
It's not so far-fetched to believe if it can be done at an atomic
level then why not at a molecular level.

Its clear why you were a English major.

And, it's even more clear that your attempt to avoid addressing the
issue did not go unnoticed.

Avoid addressing? It isn't my job to "address the issue." It is the
job of the scientist involved to propose a source for the energy
required to release the hydrogen from its bond with oxygen.

On the surface of it, the energy comes from the RF, so there is no magic
source. Although the burning has been verified, there has been little
disclosed about the energy efficiency. However, Kanzius has already
admitted (contrary to an early statement) that the efficiency is really
less than one so this is very unlikely to be useful as an "energy source."


Why not at the molecular level? Just because, to date, it hasn't been
done does not validate the idea that it can never be done. If molecules
can be arranged in a more efficient form then energy can be obtained. If
the arrangement can be done in an energy efficient manner than there can
be energy gained at the expense of a more compact or stable molecule.
Same thing as in fusion but on a molecular level.

Yes, its called chemistry. And while it was considered magic 500 years
ago, its fairly well understood nowadays, and the Supreme Court even
allows it to be taught in public schools.

It is possible that Kanzius has discovered a new phenomenon that could
lead to interesting applications. In that context, this could be really
big news. But he did not solve the world's energy problem.