On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:05:15 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

What simplistic bull****! Getting more energy out than goes in?? This
sums up Wilma's level of understanding of the world. Don't bother to
read any further.


You never heard of nuclear fusion? That's more energy out than in. ot

Not really. Mass disappears. And it only works with elements lighter
than Iron. In time the universe will consist of pure iron, and if you
want to call that more out than in so be it.
It's
not so far-fetched to believe if it can be done at an atomic level then
why not at a molecular level.

Yes it is so farfetched.

Casady

"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:37:28 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote this crap:

I love it.... "Nuclear fusion at a molecular level"
Funniest thing I've seen in a while.


Hey, there's nuclear fusion on a much larger scale than molecular...
family
bonding for example, something of which Neal has no clew.


Hey, Jon-boy. Nuclear fusion happens at the stellar level. Without
nuclear power the Earth would be just another frozen ball of ice.

I know because I have a degree from M.I.T.


But you're nowheres as smart as JAXAshby. He's in Mensa. He's got
honorary doctorates from several different Ivy League schools.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:51:43 -0700, wrote:

Its clear why you were a English major.


I love it.... "Nuclear fusion at a molecular level"
Funniest thing I've seen in a while.
You missed the viruses smaller than a chloride ion. Smaller than water
he said. Then there was the carbon molecules.

Casady

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:38:15 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

We'll have none of that here. In this group, we obey the laws of
thermodynamics!



Yeah, entropy.

I turned 60 in May and that word assumed a new meaning.

Casady

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:18:23 -0700, wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
I've forgotten most of this stuff (it was in the mid-80s). Basically,
the ions cannot respond to the RF but the very light electrons can so
it is the eelctrons in the water doing the work and being heated. A
mist might work but I remember that the discharge was very close to
the electrodes and fell off rapidly as you got away from them. This
guy probably has electrodes very close together.

That makes sense, since the field strength drops off so fast as a
function of distance. How about emitting RF thru a screen or flat
plane emitter; maybe there is some promise a modulated fuel cell with
water mist or vapor pushed thru a carefully controlled RF chamber,
then re-converted almost immediately? If there is a net energy gain in
the reaction, then it should be much better than any hydrogen fuel
cell I've heard of.... Get it worked out, I'll draft a letter to the
BP board, I'm a stockholder.... you can split the royalties with me.


Regards
Doug King


Seems I remember a high school chemistry experiment. Submerge an
electric arc in distilled water and wave a lighted match across the
top of the beaker and produce fire.

Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:37:28 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote this crap:

I love it.... "Nuclear fusion at a molecular level"
Funniest thing I've seen in a while.


Hey, there's nuclear fusion on a much larger scale than molecular...
family
bonding for example, something of which Neal has no clew.


Hey, Jon-boy. Nuclear fusion happens at the stellar level. Without
nuclear power the Earth would be just another frozen ball of ice.

I know because I have a degree from M.I.T.


But you're nowheres as smart as JAXAshby. He's in Mensa. He's got
honorary doctorates from several different Ivy League schools.

Wilbur Hubbard

I believe such things are easily purchased in the USA, rather like their
military medals.

"Edgar" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

We never had the _right_ to bear arms like in the US constitution.
After the security tightening all licensed holders of shotgun or other gun
permits had to show real need to be allowed to keep them. Reputable
gunshop businesses were forced to close and a couple of owners of them
committed suicide as their livelihood was taken away without
compensatioon.
Many shotgun owners like myself voluntarily gave up our shotguns to the
police for destruction because for the sake of the occasional vermin shoot
we could not be arsed to cope with all the bureaucracy. But the criminals
did not give up their guns and gun crime in UK has increased ever since.

So you'd rather have the US system? Look at the figures and think about it.
The British health system is flawed too but would you want to swap it for
the US one?

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 06:48:38 +0100, "Duncan Heenan"
wrote this crap:


But you're nowheres as smart as JAXAshby. He's in Mensa. He's got
honorary doctorates from several different Ivy League schools.

I believe such things are easily purchased in the USA, rather like their
military medals.

That's because you're an idiot. You can believe anything you want.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:09:52 +0700, wrote:




Seems I remember a high school chemistry experiment. Submerge an
electric arc in distilled water and wave a lighted match across the
top of the beaker and produce fire.

Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)


That was my eigth grade (nearly fifty years ago) science fair project.
Made an electrolosis device. Would work with either tap water with a
small jolt of sulpheric acid to increase conductivity, or salt water.

Two insulated elctrodes (carbon rods from old batteries) minor amount
of DC charge, and the electrodes begin to precipitate gasses. Pure
hydrogen on one, regardless of the fluid. Either oxygen (water with
acid charge) or chlorine gas, (sal****er).

Really impressed the local judges when every few seconds you could
take the collection test tube of Hydrogen, turn it over, expose it to
a flame and have it "pop".

I couldn't use the salt water fluid at the science fair, they didn't
want chlorine gas, even in small quantities, floating about.

Certainly nothing "breakthrough" about it. More BTU's in than out.
been done forever it seems.

Won second place in my category at the local fair. Didn't even place
at the state fair.

Frank

"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 06:48:38 +0100, "Duncan Heenan"
wrote this crap:


But you're nowheres as smart as JAXAshby. He's in Mensa. He's got
honorary doctorates from several different Ivy League schools.

I believe such things are easily purchased in the USA, rather like their
military medals.

That's because you're an idiot. You can believe anything you want.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

How much did you pay for your diploma then Whorvath?