"Scout" wrote in message
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Sorry about the camera work, but it was a great evening sail. We
dropped the anchor in a small cove at 9:57 PM. Spent a beautiful night
under the stars.

Ol' Thom, the ending of this video is for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cdn9HrU-BA

Scout


Slovenly done. Lose that fender hanging over the starboard side..

"Scout" wrote in message news:GP-
Jon (and Joe)
Other than aesthetics, is there any practical value to
stowing the fenders
onboard? I know this doesn't look as nice, but I hate to
give up any space
onboard for them. I could leave them permanently tied to
the dock
(floating). I am essentially lazy when it comes to the
small stuff, but, I
am always willing to listen to good advice!


If they drag in the water they'll slow you down a bit, but
mostky it just looks bad.



Also, are you saying I should let the mainsail carry the
boom? I haven't
actually tried that yet; I adjusted the lazy jacks to lift
the boom enough
to clear the dodger. I've never used lazy jacks before; I
do like them and
the roller furler too since I often sail shorthanded. Neal
mentioned the
lazy jacks fouling the sail and I can see some contact
there, although it
doesn't seem to have affected performance in any
significant way. If I have
to buy a new mainsail sooner than later, I guess I can
live with that, but I
doubt it.


I believe Jon was reffering to your lazy JIB sheet. In the
vid, it looks kinda tight, not a good thing, if it is.

I was going to ask ,after viewing the first vid, if you sail
with the bimini up and how much clearance the boom had. When
I stand in my cockpit, the boom is at nose heighth. I don't
see how I could sail with a bimini.

Is your main haylard tight? Is it on a winch?


Also, I can see getting used to adjusting the jib will
take some practice.
It just doesn't look right, although the sails were full
and according to
the gps, we hit 6.8 mph later that same night with 15 mph
winds. The jib
sheets got tangled a bit.

6.8 is impressive. Do you have a knot log, or just using
the GPS?


And, I don't quite have the hang of using the
self-tailing winches yet (it seems easier to pull the jib
sheets by hand
than it is to crank the winch (sharing one handle).

I always pull the sheets by hand, as far as I can, only need
the handle once there's a lot of tension on the sheet. Does
your line stay in the winch okay?

Scotty

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"Scout" wrote in message
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Sorry about the camera work, but it was a great evening sail. We dropped
the anchor in a small cove at 9:57 PM. Spent a beautiful night under the
stars.

Ol' Thom, the ending of this video is for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cdn9HrU-BA

Scout



Nice... you might want to consider stowing the fenders, rather than
having them hanging. Also, the lazy sheet should probably be eased a bit
more, as it might distort the clew.

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Jon (and Joe)
Other than aesthetics, is there any practical value to stowing the fenders
onboard? I know this doesn't look as nice, but I hate to give up any space
onboard for them. I could leave them permanently tied to the dock
(floating). I am essentially lazy when it comes to the small stuff, but, I
am always willing to listen to good advice!

It's both an asthetic issue and a practical issue. Asthetically, it makes
you look like a lubber. :-) Practically, they're easy to lose when hanging.

It looks like you used a clove hitch (with extra turns) or possibly I can't
see the round turn with the two half hitches. Clove hitches can come undone
fairly easily.

Also, are you saying I should let the mainsail carry the boom? I haven't

No... I was talking about the jib sheets... specifically the sheet not under
load. I think lazy jacks were a boon to sailors who sail short-handed. I
prefer the Dutchman system, but either serve a useful purpose. It's not
unusual for Lazy Jacks to foul or snag battens when the sail is raised.
Coming down, they usually work fine.

actually tried that yet; I adjusted the lazy jacks to lift the boom enough
to clear the dodger. I've never used lazy jacks before; I do like them and
the roller furler too since I often sail shorthanded. Neal mentioned the
lazy jacks fouling the sail and I can see some contact there, although it
doesn't seem to have affected performance in any significant way. If I
have to buy a new mainsail sooner than later, I guess I can live with
that, but I doubt it.
Also, I can see getting used to adjusting the jib will take some practice.
It just doesn't look right, although the sails were full and according to
the gps, we hit 6.8 mph later that same night with 15 mph winds. The jib
sheets got tangled a bit. And, I don't quite have the hang of using the
self-tailing winches yet (it seems easier to pull the jib sheets by hand
than it is to crank the winch (sharing one handle).
Scout

I have self-tailers, but only use them if I have crew or I know I'm not
going to do much tacking/jibing. I only use a winch handle when my or my
crew's timing is off or it's a big boat and we need to jibe in high winds.
Remember, you can always get the helmsman to head up briefly to help you
trim in a sheet.




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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Scout" wrote in message news:GP-
Jon (and Joe)
Other than aesthetics, is there any practical value to
stowing the fenders
onboard? I know this doesn't look as nice, but I hate to
give up any space
onboard for them. I could leave them permanently tied to
the dock
(floating). I am essentially lazy when it comes to the
small stuff, but, I
am always willing to listen to good advice!


If they drag in the water they'll slow you down a bit, but
mostky it just looks bad.



Also, are you saying I should let the mainsail carry the
boom? I haven't
actually tried that yet; I adjusted the lazy jacks to lift
the boom enough
to clear the dodger. I've never used lazy jacks before; I
do like them and
the roller furler too since I often sail shorthanded. Neal
mentioned the
lazy jacks fouling the sail and I can see some contact
there, although it
doesn't seem to have affected performance in any
significant way. If I have
to buy a new mainsail sooner than later, I guess I can
live with that, but I
doubt it.


I believe Jon was reffering to your lazy JIB sheet. In the
vid, it looks kinda tight, not a good thing, if it is.

I was going to ask ,after viewing the first vid, if you sail
with the bimini up and how much clearance the boom had. When
I stand in my cockpit, the boom is at nose heighth. I don't
see how I could sail with a bimini.

Is your main haylard tight? Is it on a winch?

my boom clears my bimini with no problem. the boom misses most of my guests
but would crack my skull with a good swing. The main halyard is on a winch
and is about as tight as I can get it.

Also, I can see getting used to adjusting the jib will
take some practice.
It just doesn't look right, although the sails were full
and according to
the gps, we hit 6.8 mph later that same night with 15 mph
winds. The jib
sheets got tangled a bit.

6.8 is impressive. Do you have a knot log, or just using
the GPS?

just a gps


And, I don't quite have the hang of using the
self-tailing winches yet (it seems easier to pull the jib
sheets by hand
than it is to crank the winch (sharing one handle).

I always pull the sheets by hand, as far as I can, only need
the handle once there's a lot of tension on the sheet. Does
your line stay in the winch okay?

I don't think I'm using the winch correctly... I plan to ask some of my
neighbors for a demo.


Scotty

skeeters not too bad but the horseflies are killer!

"Scotty" wrote in message
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Not good quality, but a nice vid all the same.Good song.
Glad you are enjoying your boat.
Is that a fender dragging? A sure sign of a n00b, to
others.
How bad are the skeeters?

Scotty



"Scout" wrote in message
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Sorry about the camera work, but it was a great evening
sail. We dropped the
anchor in a small cove at 9:57 PM. Spent a beautiful night
under the stars.

Ol' Thom, the ending of this video is for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cdn9HrU-BA

Scout

No... I was talking about the jib sheets... specifically the sheet not
under load. I think lazy jacks were a boon to sailors who sail
short-handed. I prefer the Dutchman system, but either serve a useful
purpose. It's not unusual for Lazy Jacks to foul or snag battens when the
sail is raised. Coming down, they usually work fine.

ahh, thanks Jon, now I see what you mean.

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"Scout" wrote in message
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Sorry about the camera work, but it was a great evening sail. We dropped
the anchor in a small cove at 9:57 PM. Spent a beautiful night under the
stars.

Ol' Thom, the ending of this video is for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cdn9HrU-BA

Scout


Slovenly done. Lose that fender hanging over the starboard side..

Agreed.

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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No... I was talking about the jib sheets... specifically the sheet not
under load. I think lazy jacks were a boon to sailors who sail
short-handed. I prefer the Dutchman system, but either serve a useful
purpose. It's not unusual for Lazy Jacks to foul or snag battens when the
sail is raised. Coming down, they usually work fine.

Jon and Scotty,
My jib sheets run through a block on an adjustable runner. Under what
conditions would I adjust the block forward and when would I set it at the
furthest aft setpoint?

Also, I saw what you mean about the lazy jacks snagging the battens with the
very first raise of the mainsail.
Scout

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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I have self-tailers, but only use them if I have crew or
I know I'm not
going to do much tacking/jibing.

Huh? Why?

I only use a winch handle when my or my
crew's timing is off or it's a big boat and we need to
jibe in high winds.
Remember, you can always get the helmsman to head up
briefly to help you
trim in a sheet.

Why?


SV

"Scout" wrote in message
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my boom clears my bimini with no problem. the boom misses
most of my guests
but would crack my skull with a good swing.





So you can't stand erect under it?


The main halyard is on a winch
and is about as tight as I can get it.

Thought I saw a few wrinkles, maybe not.

Scotty