"Jeff" wrote in message
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Each to his own on this. Although I've used messengers on occasion,
I've seen them jump off the sheave and get jammed. There is little
problem sewing the ends of two halyards together, it won't take any
additional diameter. A couple of turns of duct tape makes sure it
stays fair, but I admit I'm always concerned that it would come off at
an inconvenient spot.

I guess I'll have to present these questions to my friendly rigger to
find out what he does.

You make a good point about the need to use a messenger line large enough
not to jump off the sheave. I use a line of about 2mm which is larger than
any clearance than I would tolerate at the sheave. But even so I am always
careful to maintain tension on the messenger throughout the operation as
long as the messenger is on the sheave.

Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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Like I said, we've tried that and it wouldn't work..there

is resistance

WIT the tape on, not under general load...at any rate, we

have no

problems with the messenger line techniqwue so will

continue to use that

since it works for us and the other doesn't...


whatever floats your boat.


Water...so far...is there anything else?

Edgar wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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All our lines are oversized...on purpose...

I am replacing my main halliard at this very moment because before I bought
the boat someone who should have known better used a 14mm rope and forced it
through a stopper at the cockpit which was clearly marked that it wa sized
for 10-12mm rope. Had to use the winch to hoist the sail last year because
of the drag through that stopper. New halliard will be 10mm Spectra. If your
lines come back to the cockpit forget about wire, which is only OK if you
have a rope tail on it and when the sail is up there are several turns of
wire onto a mast mounted winch. Also, when you are being hoisted up in the
bosun's chair on a wire halliard you have ample time to consider whether you
did that rope-to-wire splice properly... ( been there, done that, still
here...)


All our hardware fits the lines so we don't have that problem...we are
going to downsize the jib sheets when they come up for replacement
(soon)...they are jsut too fat...I have broken so many fingers and my
left hand was crushed when I was working with horses, so have lots of
arthritis...the larger lines help....

"Scotty" w@u wrote in message
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Ed, I take my halyards home every Winter and clean them.
3/8'' line, sewed them the first few times, now I just tape
them.
Scotty

If that works for you that is fine. I usually do these jobs alone and that
is easy with a messenger. But if I taped the lines and the taping were to
come adrift I would have to find people to haul me up the mast to reeve a
new line and there ae only a few of the people who hang around the marina
that I would trust with that job so I prefer to make sure I do not need
them.

"katy" wrote in message
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Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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Like I said, we've tried that and it wouldn't
work..there

is resistance

WIT the tape on, not under general load...at any rate,
we

have no

problems with the messenger line techniqwue so will

continue to use that

since it works for us and the other doesn't...

Lava.


whatever floats your boat.


Water...so far...is there anything else?

"katy" wrote in message


All our hardware fits the lines so we don't have that
problem...we are
going to downsize the jib sheets when they come up for
replacement
(soon)...they are jsut too fat...I have broken so many
fingers and my
left hand was crushed when I was working with horses, so
have lots of
arthritis...the larger lines help....

Do you have ST winches? My jib sheets are fat (7/16'' I
think) , but nice and soft. I bought a smaller dia line, but
it didn't hold well in the ST winch. Put the old ones back
on.

Scotty

Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message


All our hardware fits the lines so we don't have that

problem...we are

going to downsize the jib sheets when they come up for

replacement

(soon)...they are jsut too fat...I have broken so many

fingers and my

left hand was crushed when I was working with horses, so

have lots of

arthritis...the larger lines help....


Do you have ST winches? My jib sheets are fat (7/16'' I
think) , but nice and soft. I bought a smaller dia line, but
it didn't hold well in the ST winch. Put the old ones back
on.

Scotty



Ours are almost too fat for the ST winches and sometimes have
problems..that's why going down a notch...and yes, ours are nice and
soft, too...

Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Scotty wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...


Like I said, we've tried that and it wouldn't

work..there

is resistance


WIT the tape on, not under general load...at any rate,

we

have no


problems with the messenger line techniqwue so will

continue to use that


since it works for us and the other doesn't...


Lava.


whatever floats your boat.



Water...so far...is there anything else?



In Virginia? Would be a leap...now up in Old Thiom's neck of the woods
you might see that...

"Shaun Van Poecke" wrote in message
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"Scotty" w@u wrote in message
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Really? Have your tried this?

yelp, twice.

SBV

yelp yelp

shaun

Idiot! It's kelp kelp!

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"Edgar" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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Each to his own on this. Although I've used messengers on occasion,
I've seen them jump off the sheave and get jammed. There is little
problem sewing the ends of two halyards together, it won't take any
additional diameter. A couple of turns of duct tape makes sure it
stays fair, but I admit I'm always concerned that it would come off at
an inconvenient spot.

I guess I'll have to present these questions to my friendly rigger to
find out what he does.

You make a good point about the need to use a messenger line large enough
not to jump off the sheave. I use a line of about 2mm which is larger than
any clearance than I would tolerate at the sheave. But even so I am always
careful to maintain tension on the messenger throughout the operation as
long as the messenger is on the sheave.

I have plenty of tension in my life. I don't need any more.

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