* katy wrote, On 3/1/2007 6:34 PM:
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Becasue it does...becasue we tried it...you have to use enough tape and
stitch enough to make sure the lines don't come aprt, no? Well....that
much tape and stitching makes the halyard too fat to go through the slot
for inmast halyards...been there, done that..messenger line is the way
to go...

Stitching should add virtually nothing, a couple of wraps of tape are
under a tenth of an inch. So if that's too tight, it may mean that
your halyard is oversized. In terms of strength, main halyards
generally handle a smaller load than any other running rigging - mine
are only 7/16, while the jib and spinnaker are 9/16. Of course, fat
halyards are easier to handle.

The next time the mast is down you might want to look at the sheave
and see what size it is.

Jeff wrote:
* katy wrote, On 3/1/2007 6:34 PM:
...

Becasue it does...becasue we tried it...you have to use enough tape
and stitch enough to make sure the lines don't come aprt, no?
Well....that much tape and stitching makes the halyard too fat to go
through the slot for inmast halyards...been there, done
that..messenger line is the way to go...


Stitching should add virtually nothing, a couple of wraps of tape are
under a tenth of an inch. So if that's too tight, it may mean that your
halyard is oversized. In terms of strength, main halyards generally
handle a smaller load than any other running rigging - mine are only
7/16, while the jib and spinnaker are 9/16. Of course, fat halyards are
easier to handle.

The next time the mast is down you might want to look at the sheave and
see what size it is.

All our lines are oversized...on purpose...

"katy" wrote in message
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All our lines are oversized...on purpose...


Doesn't it make it harder to suck them through that rolled up dollar
bill?

Wilbur Hubbard

"katy" wrote in message
...
All our lines are oversized...on purpose...

I am replacing my main halliard at this very moment because before I bought
the boat someone who should have known better used a 14mm rope and forced it
through a stopper at the cockpit which was clearly marked that it wa sized
for 10-12mm rope. Had to use the winch to hoist the sail last year because
of the drag through that stopper. New halliard will be 10mm Spectra. If your
lines come back to the cockpit forget about wire, which is only OK if you
have a rope tail on it and when the sail is up there are several turns of
wire onto a mast mounted winch. Also, when you are being hoisted up in the
bosun's chair on a wire halliard you have ample time to consider whether you
did that rope-to-wire splice properly... ( been there, done that, still
here...)

Edgar wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
All our lines are oversized...on purpose...

I am replacing my main halliard at this very moment because before I bought
the boat someone who should have known better used a 14mm rope and forced it
through a stopper at the cockpit which was clearly marked that it wa sized
for 10-12mm rope. Had to use the winch to hoist the sail last year because
of the drag through that stopper. New halliard will be 10mm Spectra. If your
lines come back to the cockpit forget about wire, which is only OK if you
have a rope tail on it and when the sail is up there are several turns of
wire onto a mast mounted winch. Also, when you are being hoisted up in the
bosun's chair on a wire halliard you have ample time to consider whether you
did that rope-to-wire splice properly... ( been there, done that, still
here...)


All our hardware fits the lines so we don't have that problem...we are
going to downsize the jib sheets when they come up for replacement
(soon)...they are jsut too fat...I have broken so many fingers and my
left hand was crushed when I was working with horses, so have lots of
arthritis...the larger lines help....

"katy" wrote in message


All our hardware fits the lines so we don't have that
problem...we are
going to downsize the jib sheets when they come up for
replacement
(soon)...they are jsut too fat...I have broken so many
fingers and my
left hand was crushed when I was working with horses, so
have lots of
arthritis...the larger lines help....

Do you have ST winches? My jib sheets are fat (7/16'' I
think) , but nice and soft. I bought a smaller dia line, but
it didn't hold well in the ST winch. Put the old ones back
on.

Scotty

Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message


All our hardware fits the lines so we don't have that

problem...we are

going to downsize the jib sheets when they come up for

replacement

(soon)...they are jsut too fat...I have broken so many

fingers and my

left hand was crushed when I was working with horses, so

have lots of

arthritis...the larger lines help....


Do you have ST winches? My jib sheets are fat (7/16'' I
think) , but nice and soft. I bought a smaller dia line, but
it didn't hold well in the ST winch. Put the old ones back
on.

Scotty



Ours are almost too fat for the ST winches and sometimes have
problems..that's why going down a notch...and yes, ours are nice and
soft, too...