* Joe wrote, On 2/24/2007 10:05 PM:
....
I do not like the ideal of tying off a chain with rope to the padeye.
Then again, I have the strength of steel:0)
Right Joe, you confessed that 15 feet of chain is so heavy that you
need a windlass!
Not for the weight of the chain Jeff.
Feel free to back pedal all you want.

Back Pedal? It's that last 15-20 ft of chain thats a bitch around
here, the rest is easy, you wanna bust your back go ahead, IIl just
rachet in

As I've said, I have a windlass on my primary. However, 15 feet of my
chain is only 15 pounds, so if that's too heavy for you, you have my
condolences. Of course, much depends on the size of the anchor
attached to that chain.

I'll stand by my point. There are lots of boats the should have 20
feet of chain but don't need a windlass.




BTW I have a windlass and a cat head. A Navy #1 built in 1901. Cast
iron hot galvanized dipped. It will pull the bow under if needed.
Good for you. It probably weighs more than my windlass

only about 180 pounds

and all my
ground tackle put together.

Let's see: I have 50 feet of chain, a 35# Delta, 250 feet of line,
Lewmar windlass. That comes out to about 140 pounds. On the other
bow the Delta with rode is about 35 pounds. So your windlass is a bit
more than all my gear. But then, I have a lightweight catamaran and
you have a heavy steel boat.

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Let's see: I have 50 feet of chain, a 35# Delta, 250 feet of line,
Lewmar windlass. That comes out to about 140 pounds. On the other
bow the Delta with rode is about 35 pounds. So your windlass is a bit
more than all my gear. But then, I have a lightweight catamaran and
you have a heavy steel boat.

I wouldn't call a boat that's 85% iron oxide steel. I'd call it a rust
bucket. After all rust is the normal state of steel. Plain old iron
lasts longer. But even a rusty steel boat is preferable to a multihull.

You nut cases who have catamarans or trimarans are as big a joke as your
boats when it comes to anchoring. I've watched you fools and how you
operate.
You motor your boat to the exact spot you want it to be. Then you let go
the chain with such rattling and general commotion that you wake up the
dead. Then you fall way back right out of the spot you wanted to be and
right on top of the leeward anchored boat. The concept that dropping a
hundred feet of chain results in your falling back almost a hundred feet
seems to be beyond your understanding. Then you lean over the bows and
attach a foolish bridle affair using a crude, most often rusty
galvanized chain hook. Then you let out a little more chain so the load
is taken on the bridle contraption. The entire affair is absurd and
laughable. There should be separate anchorages for multihull types.
Such ugly and ungainly vessels wreck an anchorage for those who operated
monohulls and know how to anchor. A real cruising monohull sails into
the anchorage and drops a hook so quietly that unless you're on deck
looking around you never know another boat has anchored until you stick
your head up and look around. I've yet to NOT be aware of a multihull
anchoring as the process is usually accompanied by deafening noise,
revving engines, shouting back and forth by the crew, air pollution,
frequent dragging and inconsiderate spacing.

Wilbur Hubbard

* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 2/25/2007 4:15 PM:

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Let's see: I have 50 feet of chain, a 35# Delta, 250 feet of line,
Lewmar windlass. That comes out to about 140 pounds. On the other
bow the Delta with rode is about 35 pounds. So your windlass is a bit
more than all my gear. But then, I have a lightweight catamaran and
you have a heavy steel boat.

I wouldn't call a boat that's 85% iron oxide steel. I'd call it a rust
bucket. After all rust is the normal state of steel. Plain old iron
lasts longer. But even a rusty steel boat is preferable to a multihull.

You nut cases who have catamarans or trimarans are as big a joke as your
boats when it comes to anchoring. I've watched you fools and how you
operate.
You motor your boat to the exact spot you want it to be. Then you let go
the chain with such rattling and general commotion that you wake up the
dead. Then you fall way back right out of the spot you wanted to be and
right on top of the leeward anchored boat. The concept that dropping a
hundred feet of chain results in your falling back almost a hundred feet
seems to be beyond your understanding. Then you lean over the bows and
attach a foolish bridle affair using a crude, most often rusty
galvanized chain hook. Then you let out a little more chain so the load
is taken on the bridle contraption. The entire affair is absurd and
laughable. There should be separate anchorages for multihull types. Such
ugly and ungainly vessels wreck an anchorage for those who operated
monohulls and know how to anchor. A real cruising monohull sails into
the anchorage and drops a hook so quietly that unless you're on deck
looking around you never know another boat has anchored until you stick
your head up and look around. I've yet to NOT be aware of a multihull
anchoring as the process is usually accompanied by deafening noise,
revving engines, shouting back and forth by the crew, air pollution,
frequent dragging and inconsiderate spacing.

That's pathetic, Neal. What happened to you? Did you lose the banana
boat in the hurricanes? This sorry display just reeks of jealousy.
Get a boat, even a Tangerine would be better than nothing.

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 2/25/2007 4:15 PM:

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Let's see: I have 50 feet of chain, a 35# Delta, 250 feet of line,
Lewmar windlass. That comes out to about 140 pounds. On the other
bow the Delta with rode is about 35 pounds. So your windlass is a
bit more than all my gear. But then, I have a lightweight catamaran
and you have a heavy steel boat.

I wouldn't call a boat that's 85% iron oxide steel. I'd call it a
rust bucket. After all rust is the normal state of steel. Plain old
iron lasts longer. But even a rusty steel boat is preferable to a
multihull.

You nut cases who have catamarans or trimarans are as big a joke as
your boats when it comes to anchoring. I've watched you fools and how
you operate.
You motor your boat to the exact spot you want it to be. Then you let
go the chain with such rattling and general commotion that you wake
up the dead. Then you fall way back right out of the spot you wanted
to be and right on top of the leeward anchored boat. The concept that
dropping a hundred feet of chain results in your falling back almost
a hundred feet seems to be beyond your understanding. Then you lean
over the bows and attach a foolish bridle affair using a crude, most
often rusty galvanized chain hook. Then you let out a little more
chain so the load is taken on the bridle contraption. The entire
affair is absurd and laughable. There should be separate anchorages
for multihull types. Such ugly and ungainly vessels wreck an
anchorage for those who operated monohulls and know how to anchor. A
real cruising monohull sails into the anchorage and drops a hook so
quietly that unless you're on deck looking around you never know
another boat has anchored until you stick your head up and look
around. I've yet to NOT be aware of a multihull anchoring as the
process is usually accompanied by deafening noise, revving engines,
shouting back and forth by the crew, air pollution, frequent dragging
and inconsiderate spacing.

That's pathetic, Neal. What happened to you? Did you lose the banana
boat in the hurricanes? This sorry display just reeks of jealousy.
Get a boat, even a Tangerine would be better than nothing.

It's easy to tell when you're a winner. When somebody is so embarrassed
by the truth that they resort to the politics of personal destruction in
a lame attempt at misdirection so they can avoid the issue, that's when
you know you're a winner. S'matter Jeffies? Hit way too close to home?
Thought I was watching you the last time you anchored last summer?
Bwahahahahhahhahahah!

Wilbur Hubbard respectfully.

* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 2/25/2007 5:53 PM:

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 2/25/2007 4:15 PM:

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Let's see: I have 50 feet of chain, a 35# Delta, 250 feet of line,
Lewmar windlass. That comes out to about 140 pounds. On the other
bow the Delta with rode is about 35 pounds. So your windlass is a
bit more than all my gear. But then, I have a lightweight catamaran
and you have a heavy steel boat.

I wouldn't call a boat that's 85% iron oxide steel. I'd call it a
rust bucket. After all rust is the normal state of steel. Plain old
iron lasts longer. But even a rusty steel boat is preferable to a
multihull.

You nut cases who have catamarans or trimarans are as big a joke as
your boats when it comes to anchoring. I've watched you fools and how
you operate.
You motor your boat to the exact spot you want it to be. Then you let
go the chain with such rattling and general commotion that you wake
up the dead. Then you fall way back right out of the spot you wanted
to be and right on top of the leeward anchored boat. The concept that
dropping a hundred feet of chain results in your falling back almost
a hundred feet seems to be beyond your understanding. Then you lean
over the bows and attach a foolish bridle affair using a crude, most
often rusty galvanized chain hook. Then you let out a little more
chain so the load is taken on the bridle contraption. The entire
affair is absurd and laughable. There should be separate anchorages
for multihull types. Such ugly and ungainly vessels wreck an
anchorage for those who operated monohulls and know how to anchor. A
real cruising monohull sails into the anchorage and drops a hook so
quietly that unless you're on deck looking around you never know
another boat has anchored until you stick your head up and look
around. I've yet to NOT be aware of a multihull anchoring as the
process is usually accompanied by deafening noise, revving engines,
shouting back and forth by the crew, air pollution, frequent dragging
and inconsiderate spacing.

That's pathetic, Neal. What happened to you? Did you lose the banana
boat in the hurricanes? This sorry display just reeks of jealousy.
Get a boat, even a Tangerine would be better than nothing.

It's easy to tell when you're a winner. When somebody is so embarrassed
by the truth that they resort to the politics of personal destruction in
a lame attempt at misdirection so they can avoid the issue, that's when
you know you're a winner.

Right, that's exactly what you tried to do, that's why it was so pathetic!

S'matter Jeffies? Hit way too close to home?

Apparently any real boating discussion is too painful for you.

Thought I was watching you the last time you anchored last summer?

While you were hitchhiking down Rt. 1?
Bwahahahahahahahaahhaa!

That's telling him, Wilbur. Worse yet is when they run their
gens all night. What kind of boat do you have? Any pics of
her?

Scotty



"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
message ...

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Let's see: I have 50 feet of chain, a 35# Delta, 250
feet of line,
Lewmar windlass. That comes out to about 140 pounds.
On the other
bow the Delta with rode is about 35 pounds. So your
windlass is a bit
more than all my gear. But then, I have a lightweight
catamaran and
you have a heavy steel boat.

I wouldn't call a boat that's 85% iron oxide steel. I'd
call it a rust
bucket. After all rust is the normal state of steel. Plain
old iron
lasts longer. But even a rusty steel boat is preferable to
a multihull.

You nut cases who have catamarans or trimarans are as big
a joke as your
boats when it comes to anchoring. I've watched you fools
and how you
operate.
You motor your boat to the exact spot you want it to be.
Then you let go
the chain with such rattling and general commotion that
you wake up the
dead. Then you fall way back right out of the spot you
wanted to be and
right on top of the leeward anchored boat. The concept
that dropping a
hundred feet of chain results in your falling back almost
a hundred feet
seems to be beyond your understanding. Then you lean over
the bows and
attach a foolish bridle affair using a crude, most often
rusty
galvanized chain hook. Then you let out a little more
chain so the load
is taken on the bridle contraption. The entire affair is
absurd and
laughable. There should be separate anchorages for
multihull types.
Such ugly and ungainly vessels wreck an anchorage for
those who operated
monohulls and know how to anchor. A real cruising monohull
sails into
the anchorage and drops a hook so quietly that unless
you're on deck
looking around you never know another boat has anchored
until you stick
your head up and look around. I've yet to NOT be aware of
a multihull
anchoring as the process is usually accompanied by
deafening noise,
revving engines, shouting back and forth by the crew, air
pollution,
frequent dragging and inconsiderate spacing.

Wilbur Hubbard

"Scotty" w@u wrote in message
news
That's telling him, Wilbur. Worse yet is when they run their
gens all night. What kind of boat do you have? Any pics of
her?

Scotty


I'm the proud owner of an Allied Seawind 32 and of course I have
pictures of her. She's a real beauty.

Wilbur Hubbard

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
...

"Scotty" w@u wrote in message
news
That's telling him, Wilbur. Worse yet is when they run their
gens all night. What kind of boat do you have? Any pics of
her?

Scotty


I'm the proud owner of an Allied Seawind 32 and of course I have pictures
of her. She's a real beauty.

Will you be editing Ellen out of those photos?

Max

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in

I'm the proud owner of an Allied Seawind 32 and of course
I have
pictures of her. She's a real beauty.

Well, we'all'd like to see some.

SV

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:


Wilbur Hubbard


Would that be Wilbur Hubbard the scientologist or Wilbur Hubbard played
by Karl Malden in "Beyond the Poseidon Adventure"?

Cheers
Marty