On Feb 23, 6:55 pm, Jeff wrote:
* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 2/23/2007 6:04 PM:







However, ignore the amateurs that advise shackling the chain to the
boat.
It should be attached with a length of line, strong enough to hold the
boat, accessible enough to cut with a knife if need be.

What about boats that have all chain rodes? Are you proposing adding
line to
the end of an all chain rode?

Absolutely, and for the reason Jeff mentioned.

CWM

You forgot the word "retarded". Jeff's reason is retarded. There is no
reason to have a rope tail to cut. If you have chain rode you have a
windlass. If you have a windlass you have a chain stopper. Either a
stopper built into the windlass or a stopper forward of it on deck. Or
preferably both. If you have the bitter end of the chain made fast below
in the chain locker with a stainless steel shackle made fast to a padeye
or eye bolt it is under no strain. If you should have to jettison the
rode/anchor for emergency reasons it is far better to do so from the
safety of the ships interior. Generally, should you have to part company
with your ground tackle it will be under severe wind and wave
conditions. It is generally not as safe on the bucking foredeck as it is
inside the vessel. You could even severely cut yourself with the knife.
You could even use a snap shackle in the chain locker if you thought a
stainless steel screw shackle might be tough to unfasten. Be sure to
buoy your rode before setting it free so you may retrieve it at a later
time. The buoy should have the name of your ship on it.

Its clear you learned all you know by reading old West Marine catalogs
you found while dumpster diving.

His condo has 8 dumpsters



First, the is no guarantee you have a windlass, and a windlass does
not imply a chain stopper. And the chain stopper will not
automatically stop the chain from running out.

IMO if you have more than 15 ft of chain you need a windlass. You are
correct a stopper will not stop a moving chain. I like 3 braid nylon
stoppers. and I hate steel door type stoppers. Stoppers are only
applied after the rode is stopped.

And when the boat
snubs up on shackle it will probably deform it just enough to make it
impossible to unscrew by hand.

Get a set up like this Jeff, you can find them surplus:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...13/fig3-66.gif.

You can set lengths and insure you will never have a bent pin on the
eye.


Further, this nonsense about having to cut the line while hanging off
the bow proves that you've never actually been on a boat.

Small cheap yellow banana boats have ice cooler size lockers without
access below decks.

Obviously,
the line would attach to the same spot you're saying to use with a
shackle, so one could cut it from the same "safe location" that you
could remove the shackle.

See above

The difference, of course, is that with rope
you can cut where ever is convenient, with 100% certainly, and with
a shackle there's a fair chance you'll need time and tools to get it
undone.

If I have a knife... I have a spike. Your slipping Jeff, what kind of
sailor does not have a razor sharp marlin spike knife combo?

I do not like the ideal of tying off a chain with rope to the padeye.
Then again, I have the strength of steel:0)

Joe



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