"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Seahag" wrote in message
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Bah, I figure I've only got about 4-5 left myself.


Pishaw...hatchoo?...


gesundheit


Thank-you.

whatever...then just paint the duck
tape.

They make colored duck tape. ( is it OK to say 'colored' )


Not sure anymore. If you paint over any tinted duck tape it
will last at least 2 years without delaminating and getting
little bits all over your boat/yard/driveway...

Quack

Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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Maxprop wrote:

"DSK" wrote in message
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Maxprop wrote:


This is the first post of Ellen's that seems to dispel the notion that
"she" is actually Neal in verbal drag. Neal would know better.


Why do you say that? Neal was/is pretty dumb.

FWIW I agree that "Ellen" doesn't seem to be Neal. I wonder if "she" is
one of JAXAshby's old flames.


It has been a while since Jax departed. I suppose "she" could be Jax
him/herself, but who knows in this deceptive forum.

Max

It's Neal....


If that's true, he's doing a brilliant job of appearing stupid.

Max


Hr doesn't have to try very hard....

"katy" wrote
Hr doesn't have to try very hard....


You should talk.....

Cheers,
Ellen

Maxprop wrote:

"Walt" wrote
DSK wrote:

I like a polypro/dynema blend for sheets because they don't absorb
water; lines that absorb water can freeze, then they won't run through
the block, and then you capsize. I hate it when that happens.

I especially dislike the "clunk" it makes, capsizing into frozen water.

When this happend to me, the water was liquid, but the air temp was below
freezing. So no "clunk", just a splash, followed immediately by the sort
of vocalization you might expect under the circumstances.


Have you been frostbiting, Walt?

I'm not sure the exact technical definition of that word, but yeah, I
think so. I usually get out on the water the day the lake thaws.
Sometimes there's still ice floating around. Does that count?

//Walt

I especially dislike the "clunk" it makes, capsizing into frozen water.


Walt wrote:
When this happend to me, the water was liquid, but the air temp was
below freezing. So no "clunk", just a splash, followed immediately
by the sort of vocalization you might expect under the circumstances.


Lucky you could vocalize. Being under water changes that, as
does the near-intantaneous onset of hypothermia (paralyzes
the diaphragm & chest muscles).

I have not had sheet freeze to the block, but have had spray
freeze on the sails and winches freeze in place. Different
set of challenges. I prefer frostbiting in a small boat like
a JY-15 or Laser, in a nice warm wetsuit.




Have you been frostbiting, Walt?


Walt wrote:
I'm not sure the exact technical definition of that word, but yeah, I
think so. I usually get out on the water the day the lake thaws.
Sometimes there's still ice floating around. Does that count?


Yep.

No iceboating, up your way?

DSK

DSK wrote:
Walt wrote:

When this happend to me, the water was liquid, but the air temp was
below freezing. So no "clunk", just a splash, followed immediately
by the sort of vocalization you might expect under the circumstances.

I have not had sheet freeze to the block, but have had spray freeze on
the sails and winches freeze in place.

It didn't freeze to the block, it just froze in the coiled position and
wouldn't run through the block due to the frozen bend.


I prefer frostbiting in a small boat like a JY-15 or Laser, in a nice warm
wetsuit.

I prefer my frostbiting in something a little drier, thank you. But I
have frostbited in a JY.


No iceboating, up your way?

You mean hard water sailing, in contrast to the soft water sailing we do
in the summer.

Ever hear of the DN class? I'm sure you're aware of the fact that it
stands for Detroit News, who sponsored the design competition that
resulted in the DN. Let's just say I'm in the armpit of the iceboating
world. (c:

Our club has an Arrow (basically a 2 person version of the DN), but I
haven't tried it yet. I'm afaid that I might like hard water sailing a
little too much, and it's a damn fickle sport - you need cold, but not
snow, which can be hard to come by.

//Walt

"Walt" wrote in message
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Maxprop wrote:

"Walt" wrote
DSK wrote:

I like a polypro/dynema blend for sheets because they don't absorb
water; lines that absorb water can freeze, then they won't run through
the block, and then you capsize. I hate it when that happens.

I especially dislike the "clunk" it makes, capsizing into frozen water.

When this happend to me, the water was liquid, but the air temp was below
freezing. So no "clunk", just a splash, followed immediately by the sort
of vocalization you might expect under the circumstances.


Have you been frostbiting, Walt?

I'm not sure the exact technical definition of that word, but yeah, I
think so. I usually get out on the water the day the lake thaws. Sometimes
there's still ice floating around. Does that count?

I guess so. Frostbiting is early and late season racing, generally in
dinghies, but I believe they call it that with big boats, too.

Max

"Walt" wrote in message
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Ever hear of the DN class? I'm sure you're aware of the fact that it
stands for Detroit News, who sponsored the design competition that
resulted in the DN. Let's just say I'm in the armpit of the iceboating
world. (c:

Our club has an Arrow (basically a 2 person version of the DN), but I
haven't tried it yet. I'm afaid that I might like hard water sailing a
little too much, and it's a damn fickle sport - you need cold, but not
snow, which can be hard to come by.

That's the quintessential problem here--we so seldom get black ice that it's
probably not worth owning an iceboat. I once owned a Nite, which is a
two-place, side-by-side one-design racer. It would top out at around
100mph, so some claimed, but I probably never got it above 80, which is
plenty fast. The shore comes up mighty rapidly at those speeds. I sold it
after 6 years, during which we only had a brief period during one winter
which was really premier bare ice. The only other occasions to use it were
questionable, with patches of snow which have the same effect on iceboat
speed as throwing out an anchor.

Max

"katy" wrote in message
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Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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Maxprop wrote:

"DSK" wrote in message
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Maxprop wrote:


This is the first post of Ellen's that seems to dispel the notion that
"she" is actually Neal in verbal drag. Neal would know better.


Why do you say that? Neal was/is pretty dumb.

FWIW I agree that "Ellen" doesn't seem to be Neal. I wonder if "she" is
one of JAXAshby's old flames.


It has been a while since Jax departed. I suppose "she" could be Jax
him/herself, but who knows in this deceptive forum.

Max

It's Neal....


If that's true, he's doing a brilliant job of appearing stupid.

Max
Hr doesn't have to try very hard....

Neal may be bigoted, obtuse, and deluded, but I'm not convinced he's stupid.

Max

Maxprop wrote:

Have you been frostbiting, Walt?

I'm not sure the exact technical definition of that word, but yeah, I
think so. I usually get out on the water the day the lake thaws. Sometimes
there's still ice floating around. Does that count?


I guess so. Frostbiting is early and late season racing, generally in
dinghies, but I believe they call it that with big boats, too.

My last day of racing this year was Nov 5th. Dinghys. I was unaware
that racing was part of the definition, but that's covered.

I wasn't sure whether you needed one of these to qualify:
http://www.capecodfrosty.org/

//Walt