"Maxprop" wrote
Scotty lazy, rude, inconsiderate and anti-social?? P'shaw. Surely you jest . . . g


roflmao

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Edgar" wrote in message news:VP-dnS5FnqjeQ-v

Well, is it not discourteous to asume that all your readers have such a
short attention span that they have to re-read everything from way back
so
that they can catch up? Also, if they have not been paying attention why
should all those who have been have to suffer screenfuls of unsnipped
history just to help the lazy ones?
If insufficient attention is given to constructive snippage you cannot
blame
anyone for top posting. Jonathan Ganz always top posts and although I
frequently disagree with what he says on non-sailing topics I do always
look
at what he has to say because it is quick and easy, whereas most of the
unsnipped bottom posters get instantly marked 'ignore conversation'.

Well, not always... especially now that I've tweaked the registry to default
to bottom posting. :-)

I think you're being disingenuous, Edgar. Many of Jon's posts are
one-liners, providing too little to know to whom he is responding, let
alone to *what* he is responding. I'm betting you frequently jump to the
bottom of the thread when reading his posts to determine those things.
And if you truly ignore the bottom posters, you must be reading Jon's
posts and maybe one or two others, but no one else's.

Default is responding to you Max.

It is lazy and inconsiderate to make people scroll down a couple of
screens
just to read something like 'I agree' or 'You are an
idiot/gayboy/lubber/sockpuppet/whatever.
End of rant- and hey! it was bottom posted after snippage!.

You are correct in that snip-editing is courteous. So is bottom-posting
when it's the convention in a NG.

Max


What's the convention here?

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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I think you're being disingenuous, Edgar. Many of Jon's posts are
one-liners, providing too little to know to whom he is responding, let
alone
to *what* he is responding. I'm betting you frequently jump to the bottom
of the thread when reading his posts to determine those things.

Not often, or at all, unless it is sailing content. The one-liners only get
a quick look and marked as read.

And if you
truly ignore the bottom posters, you must be reading Jon's posts and maybe
one or two others, but no one else's.

No I do not ignore them and do read most of them. But when the unsnipped
stuff gets excessive I give up and hit 'ignore'

Don't bother scrolling down to the bottom of this post.
there's nothing worth reading there. Just a rude bottom
poster's gibberish.

SV

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Edgar" wrote in message
news:VP-dnS5FnqjeQ-v

Well, is it not discourteous to asume that all your
readers have such a
short attention span that they have to re-read
everything from way back so
that they can catch up? Also, if they have not been
paying attention why
should all those who have been have to suffer screenfuls
of unsnipped
history just to help the lazy ones?
If insufficient attention is given to constructive
snippage you cannot
blame
anyone for top posting. Jonathan Ganz always top posts
and although I
frequently disagree with what he says on non-sailing
topics I do always
look
at what he has to say because it is quick and easy,
whereas most of the
unsnipped bottom posters get instantly marked 'ignore
conversation'.

I think you're being disingenuous, Edgar. Many of Jon's
posts are
one-liners, providing too little to know to whom he is
responding, let alone
to *what* he is responding. I'm betting you frequently
jump to the bottom
of the thread when reading his posts to determine those
things. And if you
truly ignore the bottom posters, you must be reading Jon's
posts and maybe
one or two others, but no one else's.

It is lazy and inconsiderate to make people scroll down
a couple of
screens
just to read something like 'I agree' or 'You are an
idiot/gayboy/lubber/sockpuppet/whatever.
End of rant- and hey! it was bottom posted after
snippage!.

You are correct in that snip-editing is courteous. So is
bottom-posting
when it's the convention in a NG.

Max

Can't follow a thread, huh?


"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Scotty" wrote in message
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So you like scrolling down to the bottom of every post
you
open?

I knew you were responding to my post, but not which one
specifically. So
in this case I had to scroll down through a bunch of
garbage you should have
snipped in order to see my post, and then back up to take
another look at
your response.

You post some on top and some on the bottom. Why?


Sometimes it's appropriate. But I usually snip first.

Scotty

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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Scotty lazy, rude, inconsiderate and anti-social??
P'shaw. Surely you jest
. . . g


That's what they used to write on my report cards.

S

Is 'Dazed & Confused' your theme song?


"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Scotty" wrote in message
news
no

No what?

Max


LZ rules !

When I started posting here, 8 to 10 years ago, most everyone top-posted and
when someone bottom posted it was met with hoots and hollers.

Do you have to scroll to the bottom of every message to read the most
recent? Even if you have been following the thread for 72 replies?

--
jlrogers±³©
"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message news:uNndh.7418 "Maxprop"
wrote in message
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"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message
t...
Top post and save the world some time.

Somehow I presumed you were smarter than that. Guess initial
impressions can be deceiving.

Why do most newsreaders , including Microsoft's "Outlook Express" default
to top posting?

You've asked politely, so I'll give you a straight answer.

I don't know why Outlook Express defaults to top-posting, but I can guess.
Most emails are top-posted, so one can assume that when OE was designed,
it followed the email convention since it is an email client as well. OE
is a very old email client / news reader--even MS has come up with better
software in the intervening years. And OE is probably the weakest, least
versatile news reader currently available. I use it because it's simple
and cheap--it came with my bundled software. If I were serious about
Usenet I'd probably invest in one of the better pieces of software, such
as Eudora.

As for top-posting or bottom-posting, the old adage "when in Rome . . ."
applies in spades. It is frustrating, not to mention cumbersome, to have
to deal with top-posters when the majority of the regulars in a NG
bottom-post. If everyone top-posted, it would conversely be annoying to
have someone bottom-posting. Almost everyone here bottom-posts. Jon,
you, and a few others persist in top-posting, which makes for absolutely
no continuity in reading long threads *unless* the person who responded to
your post cuts and pastes your post to the bottom, as I did here.

There is no rule governing where you post, just common courtesy.

Max

SSFGT-ASAP *
Still though, it is an efficient process to assign tasks and communicate
status to a trouble shooter (analyst to you under 40).

*Whoever Sends one, wants you to Sort it out, make Sense of it all, Fix
it, and Get back to him so he can Take credit, ASAP.

--
jlrogers±³©
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Edgar wrote:
It is lazy and inconsiderate to make people scroll down a couple of
screens
just to read something like 'I agree' or 'You are an
idiot/gayboy/lubber/sockpuppet/whatever.
End of rant- and hey! it was bottom posted after snippage!.


I like bottom posting, with all the caveats you have outlined.

I'ts much more important with emails, IMHO, at least at work. There's
very little more annoying than being the 5th person in a chain to get a
piece of electronic mail with heading "Can you look into this?" and then
having to read each persons input, from the bottom up.

Cheers
Marty

"jlrogers±³©" wrote:

SSFGT-ASAP *
Still though, it is an efficient process to assign tasks and communicate
status to a trouble shooter (analyst to you under 40).

*Whoever Sends one, wants you to Sort it out, make Sense of it all, Fix
it, and Get back to him so he can Take credit, ASAP.

To me reading a top posted message is rather like reading a book in
which the printer has bound the chapters in reverse order. It's do-able,
but a royal PITA.

Cheers
Marty