Capt. Rob wrote:
Hey, Jeff keeps crying about us sailing in gusty conditions.

Crying? I'm laughing! You're talking like 17 gusting 25 is the
ultimate sailing experience! This is average fall sailing.

If it's
gusting to 25-30 MPH, you sail like it's 15, right Jeff??? Jeff claimed
10-15, but he's kinda quiet about the 10 MPH part.

What are you babbling about? I'm not the one who was bragging about
going out in 40 knts predicted, and then turned tail in 17 gusting 25.


But the real truth is simple. We went sailing. And we're going again at
3:00 in pretty much the same conditions...this time with extra clothes!
Jeff will read about it, but he's home watching his DVD collection of
Home Improvement.

ho hum. Even with my family issues, I did a lot more sailing than you
did last summer.

Tomorrow I'm delivering a friend's Catalina 320 for haul out....leaving
here at 8:00 am for a 3 hour sail, then going sailing again on Heart of
Gold with Suzanne's brother.
Jeff will read about that and watch his DVD collection of Who's the
Boss?

Come back after you've actually done an overnight in your cruising
boat. Or maybe with your racing sails you'll tell us about a race.
As near as we can tell, you've even given up pulling out the jib
because that makes the boat too hard to control. And even with that,
you soak your crew and turn tail.

You're talking like 17 gusting 25 is the
ultimate sailing experience!



I did? When was that???? Can you point us to the post??? I thought I
only posted how nice the kevlar main was. I know you're not lying, so
show everyone where I said it was the ultimate sailing experience. In
fact all I said was that it was gusty and the sail worked great until
Suzanne got sloshed by a wave and left her clothes home.

RB
35s5
NY

I'm not the one who was bragging about
going out in 40 knts predicted


I bragged about the weather??? When was that? Scotty also talked about
lots of wind coming...was he bragging?
I bragged about the expensive Kevlar main.


RB
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:


I bragged about the weather??? When was that? Scotty also talked about
lots of wind coming...was he bragging?
Scotty actually quoted a real report. Not a made up one. For most
people, there is a difference.

I bragged about the expensive Kevlar main.
Why would anyone brag about that? Did you make it?

People are rightfully proud of their accomplishments. Only jackasses
brag about acquisitions.

Scotty actually quoted a real report. Not a made up one.


Sorry, Jeff. 1010 WINS and 102.7 weather both reported potential gusts
to 35 and 40 MPH.

For most
people, there is a difference.

Yeah, max wind gusts were only 28 MPH. That's great weather for a 35s5
to be flying full main and genny!


Why would anyone brag about that? Did you make it?

Nope, but it has led to a great situation for me!

People are rightfully proud of their accomplishments. Only
jackasses
brag about acquisitions.


You're not proud of you vessel and the research and effort it took to
choose her? You're not proud of your efforts to keep her ship-shape?
You're not proud of your boat?
That's really sad, Jeff. I can't agree with you at all. Any time your
efforts lead to a nice success, even in an acquisition, it is certainly
an accomplishment. I'm not saying you should be overly proud of picking
a ripe melon, but a yacht in it's entirety is something much different.
Either you didn't think your statement through, or you and I feel
exactly the same about the PDQ 36.


RB
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:
Scotty actually quoted a real report. Not a made up one.


Sorry, Jeff. 1010 WINS and 102.7 weather both reported potential gusts
to 35 and 40 MPH.

Really? They give marine forecasts? Obviously not very good ones.


For most
people, there is a difference.

Yeah, max wind gusts were only 28 MPH. That's great weather for a 35s5
to be flying full main and genny!

yada yada yada. You didn't last very long, did you? You thought you
were going out in 40 knots and you didn't bring any gear or extra
clothes? Did you even go out at all?




Why would anyone brag about that? Did you make it?

Nope, but it has led to a great situation for me!

What situation? Your boat goes 3% faster. Meanwhile, you've given up
using the jib so you go 10% slower. In other words, it doesn't do
anything for you except give you "bragging rights."


People are rightfully proud of their accomplishments. Only
jackasses
brag about acquisitions.


You're not proud of you vessel and the research and effort it took to
choose her? You're not proud of your efforts to keep her ship-shape?
You're not proud of your boat?

Its just a lot of plastic. I'm proud of what I've done with my boat,
how far its taken us, how my daughter has grown up on it. Recently I
told her we could sell it and travel the country, maybe travel the
world, maybe get a beach cottage, whatever. She turned down every
offer and said she'd rather have the family sailing together. Now
that made me proud.

That's really sad, Jeff. I can't agree with you at all.

Obviously. You like to brag about your possessions. What else do you
have?

Any time your
efforts lead to a nice success, even in an acquisition, it is certainly
an accomplishment.

I wrote a check. It wasn't that hard. Yes, a lot of work went into
picking the right boat for us, but that's personal satisfaction,
nothing to brag about.

I'm not saying you should be overly proud of picking
a ripe melon, but a yacht in it's entirety is something much different.
Either you didn't think your statement through, or you and I feel
exactly the same about the PDQ 36.

I have no idea how you really feel about anything. Do you? Bragging
about possessions is just a way of covering up your emptiness.

Really? They give marine forecasts? Obviously not very good ones.


Please point to where I mentioned a "marine forecast." I simply refered
to local weather.


For most
people, there is a difference.


yada yada yada. You didn't last very long, did you?

Nope.

You thought you
were going out in 40 knots and you didn't bring any gear or extra
clothes?

I didn't know she had taken her stuff off.

Did you even go out at all?


Sure did, and again tomorrow.


What situation? Your boat goes 3% faster.

Uh, no Jeff. I was refering to my rather unique business situation with
two lofts that is now making me money as of three days ago...and
teaching me a lot about sails...and getting expanding my sail inventory
at no cost.

Meanwhile, you've given up
using the jib so you go 10% slower.

I've used the sails twice....and in gusts to 30 knots we did not pop
the genoa.

In other words, it doesn't do
anything for you except give you "bragging rights."

Huh? The sails were awesome in light air. The main was fantastic in
heavy air. They look great, work great and cost me little.

Its just a lot of plastic.

I'm really sorry you feel that way about her. I hope she gets a better
owner and soon. The PDQ 36 is "someone's" work of art, carefully
designed and built by human beings who were envisioning something
beyond practical endeavors. It's really and truly awful for you to say
"it's just a lot of plastic." Everyone I know loves their boats and are
proud of them...and the choice they made.

She turned down every
offer and said she'd rather have the family sailing together.

Probably she has a deeper appreciation for the vessel than you do and
would never call it "just a lot of plastic." Seriously, Jeff, that's
just an awful thing to say.

Obviously. You like to brag about your possessions. What else do you
have?

I brag about the ones that gets a rise out of the fools of ASA, even
VHF radios....and they take the bait every time! But I'm NOT proud of
my VHF, Jeff....though I do appreciate the science and effort to design
it.


Yes, a lot of work went into
picking the right boat for us, but that's personal satisfaction,
nothing to brag about.

Really, Jeff? You've never bragged about your boats speed, comfort,
value or even it's ventilation???? That must have been another Jeff
with a PDQ 36!
Dude, like I said: Get over yourself.

I have no idea how you really feel about anything.

Actually, Jeff....I think you do, but you also enjoy these little
battles as a diversion, so off we go.

Bragging
about possessions is just a way of covering up your emptiness.

Or just a dumb troll for dumber people to nip at. I am proud of my
boat, Jeff. I'm not proud of my Subaru, Kia or home theatre.
Go relax. Time for bed.



RB
35s5
NY

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Capt. Rob wrote:


I bragged about the weather??? When was that? Scotty
also talked about
lots of wind coming...was he bragging?
Scotty actually quoted a real report. Not a made up one.
For most
people, there is a difference.

I bragged about the expensive Kevlar main.
Why would anyone brag about that? Did you make it?

People are rightfully proud of their accomplishments.
Only jackasses
brag about acquisitions.

I made this sail.
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...93894541jYDcnt

SBV

I made this sail.
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...93894541jYDcnt



That main looks toasted and blown. Genoa looks like a cheap bedsheet.



RB
35s5
NY

Scotty wrote:
I bragged about the expensive Kevlar main.
Why would anyone brag about that? Did you make it?

People are rightfully proud of their accomplishments.
Only jackasses
brag about acquisitions.

I made this sail.
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...93894541jYDcnt


Now there's something to be proud of. It looks real nice, Scotty.