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What or who would be considered a "Sailor"?
An interesting question that probably has more than one answer or opinion. I guess you have to have some criteria to make that determination. As for me I first started sailing in the summer of 1967 on glacial lakes on sunfish and wooden sloops and then on GRP Kolibri's and continued to do so for the following 9 summers. Then I crewed on Lakes as well as in the Caribbean, pre GPS days. As with anything you can have an interest or a passion in a particular subject or endeavor. When you have a passion for something it is greater than just a (casual) interest. I have an interest in sailing that led to a passion for knowledge of most things that are apart of sailing. I have read many logs by cruisers on the net and can relate to their experiences through the experiences I have had. Yes there is a significant difference between day sailing and or dingy sailing and cruising. Which include, but not limited to beating to weather in 6-9 foot waves, making repeated attempts to set an anchor, scouting for coral heads, trying to make a meal in uncomfortable seas. Seeing nothing but ocean on a 360 view from the boat. What is it about sailing that makes it appealing to those who do it? Well consider what world we would be in if sailing didn't exist. The development of the world was totally dependent on seafarers. Today sailing doesn't have a noticeable effect on the world per say. Sailing can be both boring and exciting, I read somewhere that sailing is boring with moments of terror. Is a sailor only someone who has circumnavigated the globe? Or who can celestially navigate? Or someone who successfully makes it from one place to another under wind power and cloth? There is a significant difference between a skipper and crew as well as owning a boat and just crewing on one. An interesting term is a "wanna-be sailor", which I would guess is someone without any experience or knowledge about sailing yet tries to come across as an authority? Or it could be someone who has an interest and passion of and for sailing who makes and effort to understand as many aspects of the sport as possible. I am grateful of the many sailors, cruisers and the like who have spent their time and made the effort to share their sailing knowledge and experiences. Fair Winds, Mic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailor Sailor From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. A sailor is a member of the crew of a ship or boat. The term may comprise anyone from an admiral in the navy to a person who goes out yachting at weekends as a hobby. A sailor is also specifically an enlisted member of a naval force. The term can be used even more generally. For example, someone who suffers from travel sickness may say that he or she is "not a good sailor". In the minds of members of the Royal Navy, the term "sailor" refers to someone who is under sail and not on a vessel with motorised power of any kind. In the Merchant Navy the term "sailor" has often been used to distinguish able seamen, ordinary seamen, and other members of the deck department from crew members working in other departments, such as catering and the engine-room. http://www.brainydictionary.com/word...lor215020.html One who follows the business of navigating ships or other vessels; one who understands the practical management of ships; one of the crew of a vessel; a mariner; a common seaman. Roget's II: The New Thesaurus, Third Edition. 1995. sailor NOUN: A person engaged in sailing or working on a ship: jack (uppercase), jack-tar, mariner, navigator, sea dog, seafarer, seaman. Informal : salt, tar. Slang : gob3. See SEA. http://www.ehow.com/how_6689_become-crew-member.html How to Become a Crew Member Time on a sailboat doesn't always translate to bearing the responsibility of skipper. Every captain needs a crew. This is a brief tip and seemingly good advice.; XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX http://www.adventureouting.com/TopicLinks/Sailing.html Sailing: Multihulls-Catamarans and Trimarans Interesting brief article on the history of these vessels. |
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Mic wrote:
What or who would be considered a "Sailor"? snip... ....and a definition of sailing..... getting seasick while slowly going nowhere at great cost... or something like that. |
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Don White wrote: Mic wrote: What or who would be considered a "Sailor"? snip... ...and a definition of sailing..... getting seasick while slowly going nowhere at great cost... or something like that. Sailing: Taking a cold shower, fully clothed, and getting seasick, while tearing up $100 bills and loving every minute of it.... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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![]() and loving every minute of it.... Maybe because only sailors get blown offshore? |
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This is kind of interesting and leads to another question. What is a
`cruiser`. Several years ago my husband and I were introduced to a couple about 2 years after we had sold the house and gone sailing. When asked if we were cruisers, the woman introducing us cut in and said =B4no, they still work=B4. Lin Pardy=B4s response to this was =B4Larry and I still work too...=B4. |
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" wrote: This is kind of interesting and leads to another question. What is a `cruiser`. Several years ago my husband and I were introduced to a couple about 2 years after we had sold the house and gone sailing. When asked if we were cruisers, the woman introducing us cut in and said ´no, they still work´. Lin Pardy´s response to this was ´Larry and I still work too...´. My definition of cruiser is someone who actually gets the boat away from the marina/anchorage overnight. Anything less is a day sail. I've seen some who sailed to a location then just lived aboard, the boat not moving. LOVELY location, but they weren't cruisers then, "just" liveaboards. Working is a separate issue. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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Jere Lull wrote:
In article .com, " wrote: This is kind of interesting and leads to another question. What is a `cruiser`. Several years ago my husband and I were introduced to a couple about 2 years after we had sold the house and gone sailing. When asked if we were cruisers, the woman introducing us cut in and said ´no, they still work´. Lin Pardy´s response to this was ´Larry and I still work too...´. My definition of cruiser is someone who actually gets the boat away from the marina/anchorage overnight. Anything less is a day sail. I've seen some who sailed to a location then just lived aboard, the boat not moving. LOVELY location, but they weren't cruisers then, "just" liveaboards. Working is a separate issue. My definition of a cruiser is someone who goes from Point A to Point B to Point C, and doesn't just do daycruises or 'out and backs', and someone who lives aboard. IOW someone traveling via sailboat that doesn't come back to a home port except at long intervals and probably someone who goes offshore occasionally. But cruisers can also stay in one place for long periods of time - actually most cruisers I know do not do daysails - they do longer trips and then when they get to the place they were aiming for, they stay there for a period of time. Varying periods of time - several months in some cases. grandma Rosalie |
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What is a sailor? A sailor is someone who actually takes , oh here's a
concept...............his boat out. It is NOT a arm chair internet newsgroup chronic. Or a marina queen weekend party in the cock pit puke the next day squid brain. When was the last time you hoisted your sails?? |
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Meye5 wrote:
... [snip] ... Thanks for posting to rec-boats.cruising. I've been reading and posting to this forum for years and it's only since you arrived that I've truly gained enlightenment and come to recognize the error of my ways and the feebleness of my abilities. I sincerely appreciate what you have done so far. -- Good luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://home.comcast.net/~kerrydeare |
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That is your definition of "what is a sailor?" nice contribution.
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