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Where does it end?
Just stay away from the bell. :-)
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scout" wrote in message ups.com... Capt. JG wrote: I've found that to true as well... find a nice spot, then someone sees where you're hooked, and then feels absolutely compelled to drop their hook right next to you. Happened down in Belize. We waited until the small fleet gathered, then picked up the anchor and moved about 200 yard away. "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bart" wrote in message oups.com... Most people are sheep looking for a herd. So they cluster together and skip perfect anchorages, if they are empty and race to crowd into an anchorage that is overcrowed. I can think of many time where I was the first to anchor in what I thought was a perfect anchorage that was empty, late inthe day, only to find 3-4 boat follow me in and crowd me. This was in Macarel Cove south of Jamestown, RI. True that. People want their cake and to eat it too. They, we, crave the comforts of being social but with the illusion of isolation. No man is an island. Ok, I'm Donne. Scout |
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Where does it end?
Taco Bell?
"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Just stay away from the bell. :-) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scout" wrote in message ups.com... Capt. JG wrote: I've found that to true as well... find a nice spot, then someone sees where you're hooked, and then feels absolutely compelled to drop their hook right next to you. Happened down in Belize. We waited until the small fleet gathered, then picked up the anchor and moved about 200 yard away. "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bart" wrote in message oups.com.. .. Most people are sheep looking for a herd. So they cluster together and skip perfect anchorages, if they are empty and race to crowd into an anchorage that is overcrowed. I can think of many time where I was the first to anchor in what I thought was a perfect anchorage that was empty, late inthe day, only to find 3-4 boat follow me in and crowd me. This was in Macarel Cove south of Jamestown, RI. True that. People want their cake and to eat it too. They, we, crave the comforts of being social but with the illusion of isolation. No man is an island. Ok, I'm Donne. Scout |
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Where does it end?
There is a cure for all that. "Indian Love Call" by Slim Whitman at full
volume: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...700038?ie=UTF8 And that's not even the best part. |
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Where does it end?
Gilligan wrote:
There is a cure for all that. "Indian Love Call" by Slim Whitman at full volume: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...700038?ie=UTF8 And that's not even the best part. You got a vesion of that by Zamfir? (how 'bout Myron Floren instead?) Cheers Marty ------------ And now a word from our sponsor --------------------- For a secure high performance FTP using SSL/TLS encryption upgrade to SurgeFTP ---- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_surgeftp.htm ---- |
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Where does it end?
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 07:55:10 -0700, Ellen MacArthur wrote
(in article ews.net): Wind generators. Got one. Solar generators. They're called panels, I have six. Diesel generators. Too heavy. Shore power cords. I only use mine if in a marina. ..Fridges. Built one, R-50 insulation. Freezers. Don't have one. Air conditioners. Don't have one. Water heaters. Don't have one. Microwave ovens. Don't have one. Propellers. Just installed a Yanmar diesel, to free us from the whims of tide and current, when winds are slack. What do all these have to do with sailboats? That depends on if you live in a home and go camping with your sailboat on weekends, or live aboard your sailboat. I think the answer is people like that don't want a sailboat. They want to put their house inside a boat. My wife and I live aboard, our boat IS our house. That's OK if they just stayed far far away from people who don't want to be hassled by all their commotion. And out of sight of people who don't want houses navigating around. Thank you, how very kind. Those of us who have merely lived aboard our sailboats for years appreciate that you 'true sailors' are willing to allow us to use the water too, even if we must stay "far far away" from you so you won't feel "hassled". Not to mention their air pollution. Why do anchorages these days have to smell like an airport or a truck stop? Why does the biggest smelliest noisiest boat always anchor right upwind of the fleet? They can't seem to stay away. They get as close to you as they can. It's as if they really want to bother you. The one thing all boats need is a decibel meter. If it gets higher than normal speech then it explodes and sinks the boat.... YES! And they need a diesel fume detector. If it goes off it empties the holding tank into the bilge. I'm hearing a lot of frustration and anger. Why do you sail if it's such a negative experience for you? I always thought sailors were a quiet, uncomplicated group. I've discovered there's way too many selfish people who aren't sailors. They're Winnebago drivers lost on the water.... They're confused. They think Spock said "the needs of the one outweigh the needs of the few or the many." If you thought a sailboat was a ticket to a world free of obnoxious, selfish, and/or ignorant people, you must relatively young and inexperienced. Cheers, Ellen Cheers to you, |
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"Slippery when wet" wrote | My wife and I live aboard, our boat IS our house. Why not live in a real house? Why not leave sailing and anchorages to sailboats? How would you like it if you DID live in a nice house and somebody built a factory on the lot next door. What if the factory made constant noise (wind generators). What if it put smoke out of smokestacks (diesel exhaust fumes). What if it expanded into your back yard (dragging anchors or anchoring too close). What if it had trucks running fast through your back yard and right under your bedroom windows (motorized tenders). Get my point? | I'm hearing a lot of frustration and anger. I'm supposed to be happy about it? Duh! | Why do you sail if it's such a negative experience for you? Some of us sail to get away from it all. That's why I sail. That's why I hate it when other people are so rude that they bring it all with them and impose it on me..... | If you thought a sailboat was a ticket to a world free of obnoxious, selfish, | and/or ignorant people, you must relatively young and inexperienced. Or maybe I just expect people to be a little more considerate of others. It's just a matter of living the golden rule. There's no real excuse to impose upon others. If you impose on others your dumb or rude or selfish.... Cheers, Ellen |
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:45:06 -0700, Ellen MacArthur wrote
(in article ews.net): "Slippery when wet" wrote My wife and I live aboard, our boat IS our house. Why not live in a real house? I've done that, now I want to live aboard my sailboat. Why do YOU do what you want instead of something you don't want to do? Why not leave sailing and anchorages to sailboats? I HAVE a sailboat. Why don't YOU leave anchorages to those living aboard their sailboats? I COULD complain about all the anchorages being full of little plastic toy boats but I don't OWN the anchorages so, unlike you, I don't feel it's my right to complain about who else is there or ask them to leave because I have a problem with them being there. How would you like it if you DID live in a nice house and somebody built a factory on the lot next door. What if the factory made constant noise (wind generators). What if it put smoke out of smokestacks (diesel exhaust fumes). What if it expanded into your back yard (dragging anchors or anchoring too close). What if it had trucks running fast through your back yard and right under your bedroom windows (motorized tenders). Get my point? Unlike a nice house, my sailboat can be moved if, for whatever reason, I am unhappy where I am. If the neighbors are loud and obnoxious (radios blaring, drunks yelling), I move. If someone begins anchoring too close to me, I ask them politely to anchor farther away. Most of the time that solves the problem, but if they refuse, I move. If the neighbors are smelly (running diesels upwind to charge batteries) I go for a hike or go snorkeling, or do something somewhere else till they're finished, it doesn't last forever. If others run their tenders too close to my boat or display any number of other obnoxious habits that indicate they just don't have a clue or just don't care about anyone but themselves, I remind myself that I don't own the anchorage, that it's best to accept what I can't change, that I COULD be stuck in traffic on some freeway, but instead I'm lucky enough to be on a beautiful sailboat in a beautiful anchorage, and to relax and not let minor irritations ruin my day. Moving my boat because of self absorbed, ignorant, and/or obnoxious neighbors is an aggravation, but preferable to not moving it. I'm hearing a lot of frustration and anger. I'm supposed to be happy about it? Duh! I wasn't implying you should be happy about it, but I'll bet feeling frustrated and angry hasn't done a thing to make the situation better. Perhaps you've heard of "The Serenity Prayer". "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; the courage to change the things I can; and the wisdom to know the difference." Why do you sail if it's such a negative experience for you? Some of us sail to get away from it all. That's why I sail. That's why I hate it when other people are so rude that they bring it all with them and impose it on me..... So now I'm "rude" if I live aboard my boat and have the audacity to anchor in an anchorage with people who don't live aboard? Maybe you should be reminded that YOU don't own the anchorages either, and some might consider it rude to behave as if you do. If you thought a sailboat was a ticket to a world free of obnoxious, selfish, and/or ignorant people, you must relatively young and inexperienced. Or maybe I just expect people to be a little more considerate of others. Why, has that been your experience on land? My experience has been that some people are considerate of others and some aren't. It's just a matter of living the golden rule. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Am I to understand that you would have me post articles in which I call you rude for choosing a lifestyle different from mine? There's no real excuse to impose upon others. You mean like asking others to stay "far, far away" and "out of sight" from a place which is open to anyone with a boat? If you impose on others your dumb or rude or selfish.... Funny, I was just thinking the same thing. Cheers, Ellen Cheers, |