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![]() OzOne wrote: Repeatedly......make it better? http://tinyurl.com/hx2w8 Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. Did you know the CIA due to the direct work they did, kept the tallest building in LosAngles from getting attacked 911 style? Do you think anyone should give a **** bout this group of murdering jihad physcos? I do not think they deserve any trials. They are terrorist that no country claims or wants therefore they are not accorded any the rights set forth at the geneva convention for POW's. It's like capturing pirates in the middle of the ocean, the only law that applys is between the combatants.... It's up to the captor to decide what to do with such scum....I'd make em talk then i'd make most of em walk the plank, or give them a death equal to the deaths of the people they murdered or helped murder. If your going to be a terrorist and be involved in mass murder of citizens then you best understand you have no protective rights at all. If it means protecting the lives of Americans(or any civilized person on earth) from murdering head chopping frenzied ****bags fanatics I'd lie like a rug. Joe |
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![]() OzOne wrote in message ... Ahhh yeah, I keep forgetting that American lives are worth 3 or is it 4 or everyone elses. 10 |
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Ahhh yeah, I keep forgetting that American lives are worth 3 or is it 4 or everyone elses. Scotty wrote: 10 Is that enough? We killed about 60 Vietnamese for every American in that war, and it didn't stop them... it was just barely enough to convince them to give us a little breathing room to declare victory and go home. In order to win very convincingly... convincingly enough that none will dare attack us... I would be willing to kill 100:1 or more, but of course it only works if you kill the right people. Invading a country that was not involved in any way with the attacks is not going to accomplish much no matter how many of it's people you kill. I am opposed to torture no matter who does it to whom. Torture is inherently evil. The act of torture corrupts the torturer and I do not want my gov't involved in it. I also find it extremely bizarre that an administration which calls itself "conservative" and claims higher moral standards will defend it's torturing of people it will not even identify or bring charges against. DSK |
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![]() OzOne wrote in message ... On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:37:36 -0400, "Scotty" scribbled thusly: OzOne wrote in message .. . Ahhh yeah, I keep forgetting that American lives are worth 3 or is it 4 or everyone elses. 10 We're both wrong... 2000 on 9/11 46,000 Iraqis Oh, I thought you were comparing to Ozzies, Iraqis aren't even on the list. Scooter |
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![]() "DSK" wrote in message .. . OzOne wrote Ahhh yeah, I keep forgetting that American lives are worth 3 or is it 4 or everyone elses. Scotty wrote: 10 Is that enough? We killed about 60 Vietnamese for every American in that war, and it didn't stop them... it was just barely enough to convince them to give us a little breathing room to declare victory and go home. yeah, but if you go pound for pound...... |
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![]() Charlie Morgan wrote: On 6 Sep 2006 16:20:42 -0700, "Joe" wrote: OzOne wrote: Repeatedly......make it better? http://tinyurl.com/hx2w8 Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. Did you know the CIA due to the direct work they did, kept the tallest building in LosAngles from getting attacked 911 style? Do you think anyone should give a **** bout this group of murdering jihad physcos? I do not think they deserve any trials. They are terrorist that no country claims or wants therefore they are not accorded any the rights set forth at the geneva convention for POW's. It's like capturing pirates in the middle of the ocean, the only law that applys is between the combatants.... It's up to the captor to decide what to do with such scum....I'd make em talk then i'd make most of em walk the plank, or give them a death equal to the deaths of the people they murdered or helped murder. If your going to be a terrorist and be involved in mass murder of citizens then you best understand you have no protective rights at all. If it means protecting the lives of Americans(or any civilized person on earth) from murdering head chopping frenzied ****bags fanatics I'd lie like a rug. Joe You will be the first to be outraged by treatment accorded our own soldiers when they are captured. Guess what? When we torture and mistreat prisoners, it doesn't matter who they are, or what we think of them. Or you dumber than **** or what? Have you not seen the soldiers hanging from the bridge burning? All the radical jihad snuff flicks? Suicide bombings and mass murder? You do not reason with rabid dogs or murdering terrorist, both will exploit what they view as a weekness. It simply means that from that day forward, our own soldiers will face the same, and we won't have a leg to stand on. Not just for a year or two, but for always. We are NOT protecting our citizens, or our brave troops by doing this. We are making all of them LESS SAFE now and in the future. Oh yeah we are less safe with the mastermind of the 911 plot wetting his pants and finking on all his troops and friends and every plan for mass murder un-covered and foiled . Yeah right. Hey numbnuts..our troops know not to get captured, they have seen how the jihad fanatics treat prisioners. Joe CWM |
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![]() Charlie Morgan wrote: On 6 Sep 2006 16:20:42 -0700, "Joe" wrote: OzOne wrote: Repeatedly......make it better? http://tinyurl.com/hx2w8 Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. Did you know the CIA due to the direct work they did, kept the tallest building in LosAngles from getting attacked 911 style? Do you think anyone should give a **** bout this group of murdering jihad physcos? I do not think they deserve any trials. They are terrorist that no country claims or wants therefore they are not accorded any the rights set forth at the geneva convention for POW's. It's like capturing pirates in the middle of the ocean, the only law that applys is between the combatants.... It's up to the captor to decide what to do with such scum....I'd make em talk then i'd make most of em walk the plank, or give them a death equal to the deaths of the people they murdered or helped murder. If your going to be a terrorist and be involved in mass murder of citizens then you best understand you have no protective rights at all. If it means protecting the lives of Americans(or any civilized person on earth) from murdering head chopping frenzied ****bags fanatics I'd lie like a rug. Joe You will be the first to be outraged by treatment accorded our own soldiers when they are captured. Guess what? When we torture and mistreat prisoners, it doesn't matter who they are, or what we think of them. It simply means that from that day forward, our own soldiers will face the same, and we won't have a leg to stand on. Not just for a year or two, but for always. We are NOT protecting our citizens, or our brave troops by doing this. We are making all of them LESS SAFE now and in the future. Chrrlie, I really hate it when I have to agree with a dickhead like you. Joe, you're not thinking it through. What goes around, comes around. The various conventions (Geneva et al) were designed to protect *your* guys as much as the other guys. Remember WW2? Japan wasn't a signatory, Germany was. Can't recall about the USSR. Japan treated POW's as slaves, arbitrarily tortured them, shot them, worked them to death, used them for medical experiments. They hadn't signed any Convention & agreed they wouldn't. You want your country to do the same things? Or, like Japan in WW2, do you think it won't matter because you'll never lose and therefore never be accountable for illegal & immoral actions? Bob Brownell in one of his books has the comment that you don't act like a gentleman because your competition acts like a gentleman. You act like one because you *are* one. Same with morality, Joe. I guess you don't get it, because you haven't got it. When US soldiers get kidnapped, tortured & disappear forever, don't get outraged about it. When US citizens in transit through an airport somewhere disappear without trace to someone's secret jail for interrogation, don't bother complaining about that, either. You're setting rules of conduct that are profoundly short sighted and *will* come back to haunt you. It's short sighted and STUPID. PDW |
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![]() Peter wrote: .. You're setting rules of conduct that are profoundly short sighted and *will* come back to haunt you. It's short sighted and STUPID. When dealing with people planning and carrying out mass murder via suicide new tactics and rules have to be made IMO. What if we did not find out of the 2002 plot to take down the tower in LosAngles? If it happened.... Then you would be blaming Bush for not doing enough, never mind a few more 1000 murdered Americans. These people are pure Evil and the world knows it, we are not talking about some naive foot soldigers. Joe PDW |
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![]() OzOne wrote: On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:36:23 -0400, Charlie Morgan scribbled thusly: You will be the first to be outraged by treatment accorded our own soldiers when they are captured. Guess what? When we torture and mistreat prisoners, it doesn't matter who they are, or what we think of them. It simply means that from that day forward, our own soldiers will face the same, and we won't have a leg to stand on. Not just for a year or two, but for always. We are NOT protecting our citizens, or our brave troops by doing this. We are making all of them LESS SAFE now and in the future. CWM Yep, and now Bush has admitted being the same as 'them' so the floodgates are opened and it's not a matter of 'who started it' On no...Not another Bush planned the attacks on 911 story... Joe Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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When dealing with people planning and carrying out mass murder via suicide new tactics and rules have to be made IMO. Are you saying that holding prisoners with no hearing & no trial is justified? When does it end? On whom would it be unjustified? Are you saying that torture is good and that the U.S. should practice it freely? Where does *that* end, and on whom would it be unjustified? Or are you saying that you want your government to be evil? DSK |
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