Peter wrote:
Joe wrote:
Peter wrote:
. You're setting rules of conduct that
are profoundly short sighted and *will* come back to haunt you. It's
short sighted and STUPID.
When dealing with people planning and carrying out mass murder via
suicide new tactics and rules have to be made IMO.
So, you won't complain when Americans get disappeared in transit
through someone's country, then? Just answer yes or no.
If they have a terrorist rap sheet 3 pages long, and are plotting
murder...I will not care.
What if we did not find out of the 2002 plot to take down the tower
in LosAngles?
I've been to LA. Like I'd care.....personally if they blew LAX off the
face of the planet, along with the people who work there and their
bosses, they'd be doing the rest of the USA a big favour.
Your still mad about that cavity search?
Then you would be blaming Bush for not doing enough, never mind a few
more 1000 murdered Americans.
Nah, not me, I'm a '**** happens' kind of guy. There's no way of
preventing everything and only a spoilt mommys boy would think so.
Oops, that's the majority of US citizens these days judging by the
whining that everything, everywhere, is someone else's fault.
No, you are whining, we do not give a ****, you don't pay our bills.
We will deal with the terrorist, as we fell fit.
These people are pure Evil and the world knows it, we are not talking
about some naive foot soldigers.
So, it's OK to disappear & interrogate people without any sanction,
Joe? I just want to be clear on this. Never mind the justifications,
people can always find justifications for anything they want to do.
Never mind if it's technically legal or not, laws can be changed or
ignored.
No people can not always find justification.
We are at war, Tell me Peter, During WWII did we capture nazi's and
question them to
find out what they were up to? Did we give every prisioner a trail and
a lawyer?
What if we captured key Jap, or Nazi Generals? Did we give them
trials, lawers ect during the war?
Are you saying we should go back to pre
9-11 days and muzzle the CIA, FBI, DEA, Army, Navy, ect.ect.ect with so
much red tape they are usless and miss preventing another 9-11 type of
mass murder?
Or are you saying that you want your government to be evil?
Are you happy with your leaders kidnapping people, squirrelling them
away, holding them without trial and interrogating them without any
oversight? Are you also happy that this is the revised rule of conduct
in general, and that it also applies to US citizens?
They are not people IMO, they are mass murders, make a difference to
me, I could give a rats ass what you think. The evidence is out there
on all 14 captives.
Bet you answer yes to the first bit and no to the second. Assuming
you've got the intellectual honesty to answer at all, which I doubt.
Better hope the North Koreans don't figure out a way of applying your
policy. There's a lot of interesting entellectual property in peoples'
heads, and when you come down to it, the definition of 'strategic
interest' is very flexible, as is defence against attack. You guys have
proven you haven't got what it takes to tackle Iran & North Korea head
on now and it sure is in both places' interest to get nuclear weapons
to defend themselves in case you change your mind. So, from their POV,
kidnapping & interrogating anyone anywhere that can help them do it is
just self defence, right?
What ever Peter, you do not have a clue, amazing how fast people like
you forget the 100's of people diving head first out of burning sky
scrapers, and how willing you are to see "LAX" blown off the face of
the earth as long as it does not effect your ability to come here and
make money.
Same logic as preventing bombing LA. You won't admit it, but it is.
Welcome to the revised world, where anything goes. Makes me glad I'm
not in the northern hemisphere these days.
Thats two of us.
http://www.geocities.com/twintowersn.../wtc_jump5.jpg, because you've demonstrated that you
have no concept of the principles involved. Keep in mind tho, that
without a sound moral basis for action, eventually pragmatism fails.
Oh did you hear some iraqi terrorist blew himself up today at a gas
station killing many Iraqi Police officers and citizens getting
gasoline. What kind of people vaporize themselfs to murder cops trying
to establish law and order? How should we find out who is planning and
sending out suicide bombers?
Pay Greenbacks? Camel Cash? Begg them purdy please?
Answer the questions...Oh I forgot, you could care less if another
major American city gets attacked and mass murder happens..You said
that right? I just wan't to be clear.
When you said "I've ignored the moral issues" that pretty much sums it
up.
Here is the moral issue...take a look.
http://www.geocities.com/twintowersn.../wtc_jump5.jpg
Joe
PDW