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Joe September 7th 06 12:20 AM

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OzOne wrote:
Repeatedly......make it better?
http://tinyurl.com/hx2w8


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.


Did you know the CIA due to the direct work they did, kept the tallest
building in LosAngles from getting attacked 911 style?

Do you think anyone should give a **** bout this group of murdering
jihad physcos?

I do not think they deserve any trials. They are terrorist that no
country claims or wants therefore they are not accorded any the rights
set forth at the geneva convention for POW's.

It's like capturing pirates in the middle of the ocean, the only law
that applys is between the combatants.... It's up to the captor to
decide what to do with such scum....I'd make em talk then i'd make most
of em walk the plank, or give them a death equal to the deaths of the
people they murdered or helped murder.

If your going to be a terrorist and be involved in mass murder of
citizens then you best understand you have no protective rights at all.


If it means protecting the lives of Americans(or any civilized person
on earth) from murdering head chopping frenzied ****bags fanatics I'd
lie like a rug.

Joe


Scotty September 7th 06 01:37 AM

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OzOne wrote in message
...
Ahhh yeah, I keep forgetting that American lives are worth

3 or is it
4 or everyone elses.



10



DSK September 7th 06 01:48 AM

Does admiting that you lied
 
OzOne wrote
Ahhh yeah, I keep forgetting that American lives are worth

3 or is it
4 or everyone elses.



Scotty wrote:
10


Is that enough?

We killed about 60 Vietnamese for every American in that
war, and it didn't stop them... it was just barely enough to
convince them to give us a little breathing room to declare
victory and go home.

In order to win very convincingly... convincingly enough
that none will dare attack us... I would be willing to kill
100:1 or more, but of course it only works if you kill the
right people. Invading a country that was not involved in
any way with the attacks is not going to accomplish much no
matter how many of it's people you kill.

I am opposed to torture no matter who does it to whom.
Torture is inherently evil. The act of torture corrupts the
torturer and I do not want my gov't involved in it. I also
find it extremely bizarre that an administration which calls
itself "conservative" and claims higher moral standards will
defend it's torturing of people it will not even identify or
bring charges against.

DSK


Scotty September 7th 06 01:59 AM

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OzOne wrote in message
...
On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:37:36 -0400, "Scotty"


scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message
.. .
Ahhh yeah, I keep forgetting that American lives are

worth
3 or is it
4 or everyone elses.



10

We're both wrong...

2000 on 9/11
46,000 Iraqis



Oh, I thought you were comparing to Ozzies, Iraqis aren't
even on the list.

Scooter



Scotty September 7th 06 02:00 AM

Does admiting that you lied
 

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
OzOne wrote
Ahhh yeah, I keep forgetting that American lives are

worth
3 or is it
4 or everyone elses.



Scotty wrote:
10


Is that enough?

We killed about 60 Vietnamese for every American in that
war, and it didn't stop them... it was just barely enough

to
convince them to give us a little breathing room to

declare
victory and go home.



yeah, but if you go pound for pound......



Joe September 7th 06 02:02 AM

Does admiting that you lied
 

Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 6 Sep 2006 16:20:42 -0700, "Joe" wrote:


OzOne wrote:
Repeatedly......make it better?
http://tinyurl.com/hx2w8


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.


Did you know the CIA due to the direct work they did, kept the tallest
building in LosAngles from getting attacked 911 style?

Do you think anyone should give a **** bout this group of murdering
jihad physcos?

I do not think they deserve any trials. They are terrorist that no
country claims or wants therefore they are not accorded any the rights
set forth at the geneva convention for POW's.

It's like capturing pirates in the middle of the ocean, the only law
that applys is between the combatants.... It's up to the captor to
decide what to do with such scum....I'd make em talk then i'd make most
of em walk the plank, or give them a death equal to the deaths of the
people they murdered or helped murder.

If your going to be a terrorist and be involved in mass murder of
citizens then you best understand you have no protective rights at all.


If it means protecting the lives of Americans(or any civilized person
on earth) from murdering head chopping frenzied ****bags fanatics I'd
lie like a rug.

Joe


You will be the first to be outraged by treatment accorded our own soldiers when
they are captured.

Guess what? When we torture and mistreat prisoners, it doesn't matter who they
are, or what we think of them.


Or you dumber than **** or what? Have you not seen the soldiers hanging
from the bridge burning? All the radical jihad snuff flicks? Suicide
bombings and mass murder? You do not reason with rabid dogs or
murdering terrorist, both will exploit what they view as a weekness.


It simply means that from that day forward, our
own soldiers will face the same, and we won't have a leg to stand on. Not just
for a year or two, but for always. We are NOT protecting our citizens, or our
brave troops by doing this. We are making all of them LESS SAFE now and in the
future.


Oh yeah we are less safe with the mastermind of the 911 plot wetting
his pants and finking on all his troops and friends and every plan for
mass murder un-covered and foiled . Yeah right. Hey numbnuts..our
troops know not to get captured, they have seen how the jihad fanatics
treat prisioners.

Joe



CWM



Peter September 7th 06 02:08 AM

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Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 6 Sep 2006 16:20:42 -0700, "Joe" wrote:


OzOne wrote:
Repeatedly......make it better?
http://tinyurl.com/hx2w8


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.


Did you know the CIA due to the direct work they did, kept the tallest
building in LosAngles from getting attacked 911 style?

Do you think anyone should give a **** bout this group of murdering
jihad physcos?

I do not think they deserve any trials. They are terrorist that no
country claims or wants therefore they are not accorded any the rights
set forth at the geneva convention for POW's.

It's like capturing pirates in the middle of the ocean, the only law
that applys is between the combatants.... It's up to the captor to
decide what to do with such scum....I'd make em talk then i'd make most
of em walk the plank, or give them a death equal to the deaths of the
people they murdered or helped murder.

If your going to be a terrorist and be involved in mass murder of
citizens then you best understand you have no protective rights at all.


If it means protecting the lives of Americans(or any civilized person
on earth) from murdering head chopping frenzied ****bags fanatics I'd
lie like a rug.

Joe


You will be the first to be outraged by treatment accorded our own soldiers when
they are captured.

Guess what? When we torture and mistreat prisoners, it doesn't matter who they
are, or what we think of them. It simply means that from that day forward, our
own soldiers will face the same, and we won't have a leg to stand on. Not just
for a year or two, but for always. We are NOT protecting our citizens, or our
brave troops by doing this. We are making all of them LESS SAFE now and in the
future.


Chrrlie, I really hate it when I have to agree with a dickhead like
you.

Joe, you're not thinking it through. What goes around, comes around.
The various conventions (Geneva et al) were designed to protect *your*
guys as much as the other guys. Remember WW2? Japan wasn't a signatory,
Germany was. Can't recall about the USSR. Japan treated POW's as
slaves, arbitrarily tortured them, shot them, worked them to death,
used them for medical experiments. They hadn't signed any Convention &
agreed they wouldn't.

You want your country to do the same things? Or, like Japan in WW2, do
you think it won't matter because you'll never lose and therefore never
be accountable for illegal & immoral actions?

Bob Brownell in one of his books has the comment that you don't act
like a gentleman because your competition acts like a gentleman. You
act like one because you *are* one. Same with morality, Joe. I guess
you don't get it, because you haven't got it. When US soldiers get
kidnapped, tortured & disappear forever, don't get outraged about it.
When US citizens in transit through an airport somewhere disappear
without trace to someone's secret jail for interrogation, don't bother
complaining about that, either. You're setting rules of conduct that
are profoundly short sighted and *will* come back to haunt you. It's
short sighted and STUPID.

PDW


Joe September 7th 06 03:00 AM

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Peter wrote:
.. You're setting rules of conduct that
are profoundly short sighted and *will* come back to haunt you. It's
short sighted and STUPID.

When dealing with people planning and carrying out mass murder via
suicide new tactics and rules have to be made IMO.

What if we did not find out of the 2002 plot to take down the tower
in LosAngles?

If it happened....

Then you would be blaming Bush for not doing enough, never mind a few
more 1000 murdered Americans.

These people are pure Evil and the world knows it, we are not talking
about some naive foot soldigers.

Joe


PDW



Joe September 7th 06 03:17 AM

Does admiting that you lied
 

OzOne wrote:
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:36:23 -0400, Charlie Morgan
scribbled thusly:



You will be the first to be outraged by treatment accorded our own soldiers when
they are captured.

Guess what? When we torture and mistreat prisoners, it doesn't matter who they
are, or what we think of them. It simply means that from that day forward, our
own soldiers will face the same, and we won't have a leg to stand on. Not just
for a year or two, but for always. We are NOT protecting our citizens, or our
brave troops by doing this. We are making all of them LESS SAFE now and in the
future.

CWM


Yep, and now Bush has admitted being the same as 'them' so the
floodgates are opened and it's not a matter of 'who started it'



On no...Not another Bush planned the attacks on 911 story...

Joe



Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.



DSK September 7th 06 01:05 PM

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Joe wrote:
When dealing with people planning and carrying out mass murder via
suicide new tactics and rules have to be made IMO.


Are you saying that holding prisoners with no hearing & no
trial is justified? When does it end? On whom would it be
unjustified?

Are you saying that torture is good and that the U.S. should
practice it freely? Where does *that* end, and on whom would
it be unjustified?

Or are you saying that you want your government to be evil?

DSK



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