Joe wrote:
OK you strive to do right, and they killed your kid because you were
not able to make them talk.. Was that right? Evil won. You lost...
over...no second chance.


1- torture is evil
2- People who torture others are evil
3- People who order others to commit torture are evil

And here's a big one:

4- things prisoners say to avoid or reduce torture are not
necessarily facts.

5- Torture very often goes wrong, such as when some "OGA
guys" killed one of the Al-Queda #2 men they captured before
he could reveal anything. Apparently had a weak heart or
something. Oh well.

So tell us Joe, what if you torture an Al-Queda prisoner and
gain NO useful info? Actually, that's not a 'what if' that
is what has happened.

In short, whatever your opponent does is not an excuse for
what *you* do, unless you're one of those weak-minded
weenies who think everything is somebody else's fault and
cannot take responsibility for your actions.

DSK