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Frank Boettcher wrote:
Been by there (the old Irby Steel yard in Gulfport) several times to
look at the storm junk. Hard to find something that can be bought at
a price where the finished product could be worth what you would have
to put into it to get it back.


Bingo. That's why they're for sale that way, instead of
being rehabbed on a back lot somewhere.

Friend has bid on 12 boats at a max bid price that he thought he
could bring the boat back reasonably, that is, at a better deal than
just buying a like and same boat in reasonable condition, on the used
market. He hasn't won a bid yet.

I think there will be some very disappointed owners when the talley up
what they had to put in the storm salvage junk.


A lot of these boats have been in the hands of starry-eyed
low-budget dreamers already. I've exchanged emails with
quite a few and maybe one in a 100 has the skills (or the
bloody stick-to-it-ness to learn the skills) to actually put
such a boat into sailing shape; none will ever do the
homework to figure out in advance what it will cost.

But taking these boats ouot of circulation will reduce the
supply and keep up the demand so that the rest of us will be
able to sell our boats one day for more than a pittance.
Thus is The Balance maintained.

DSK

DSK wrote:


But taking these boats ouot of circulation will reduce the
supply and keep up the demand so that the rest of us will be
able to sell our boats one day for more than a pittance.
Thus is The Balance maintained.

No doubt, we seen 100+ storm boats go thru our shipyard...


The same seller who has the benny has this gem in the rough:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/6232-...QQcmdZViewItem

Sure is a nice fixer upper.

Joe

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DSK

Joe wrote:
No doubt, we seen 100+ storm boats go thru our shipyard...


The same seller who has the benny has this gem in the rough:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/6232-...QQcmdZViewItem

Sure is a nice fixer upper.


Go ahead.

The report says the hull is cracked & decks buckled... IMHO
this is a wreck. It has a lot of nice gear & fittings, maybe
Seahag is looking for a 'parts' boat. Lots of folks would
like to have those bronze ports.

I'd be more tempted by something like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/45-Cu...QQcmdZViewItem
which is at least an uncracked & unbuckled structure. Still
too much money, considering.

DSK

DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
No doubt, we seen 100+ storm boats go thru our shipyard...


The same seller who has the benny has this gem in the rough:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/6232-...QQcmdZViewItem

Sure is a nice fixer upper.


Go ahead.

The report says the hull is cracked & decks buckled... IMHO
this is a wreck. It has a lot of nice gear & fittings, maybe
Seahag is looking for a 'parts' boat. Lots of folks would
like to have those bronze ports.

Oh man, if you click on the details you see it is good for nothing but
parts, might as well include the cost of a crusher and a dumpster or
two

I'd be more tempted by something like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/45-Cu...QQcmdZViewItem
which is at least an uncracked & unbuckled structure. Still
too much money, considering.


But look at that fin, looks like it's been shoved up a bit, and the
hull has mushed in and caved around it.

Joe

DSK

Joe wrote:
Oh man, if you click on the details you see it is good for nothing but
parts, might as well include the cost of a crusher and a dumpster or
two


Maybe the cost of bronze ports & 2nd hand windlasses is
going to come down in the near future


I'd be more tempted by something like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/45-Cu...QQcmdZViewItem
which is at least an uncracked & unbuckled structure. Still
too much money, considering.



Joe wrote:
But look at that fin, looks like it's been shoved up a bit, and the
hull has mushed in and caved around it.


Hard to say from the pics. That's not an unusual shape for a
boat of that era designed to the IOR rule... they had flat
spots in unusual places, and a hull section shaped like a
sherbet glass. Something about the way the rule measured the
"sailing length" which was a mathematical way of trying to
calculate the waterline when heeled. Despite the weird hull,
many boats of this type sail quite well. Other of course
have earned the reputation of being broach coaches. At least
it has an intact rig & a working engine!

Even if the hull is trashed, all those self-tailing winches
cost more than $10K new and could probably be resold fairly
readily.

Anyway, it's a fun game to speculate. I am shopping for
something much smaller, simpler, and less demanding of
project work. I still have tugboat parts in the garage!

DSK

"Joe" wrote in message
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DSK wrote:


But taking these boats ouot of circulation will reduce
the
supply and keep up the demand so that the rest of us
will be
able to sell our boats one day for more than a pittance.
Thus is The Balance maintained.

No doubt, we seen 100+ storm boats go thru our
shipyard...


The same seller who has the benny has this gem in the
rough:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/6232-...eoy-Lee_W0QQit
emZ280019604565QQihZ018QQcategoryZ63731QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

Sure is a nice fixer upper.


You call this a fixer upper?

Vessel was damaged and submerged during hurricane. The decks
buckled. Both hull sides cracked and crushed from deck to
water line. Fractures to hull are complete.
Teak decking is loose and in poor condition. Windows are in
fair condition with some broken. Gauges and controls were
all submerged and are in poor condition. Interior of vessel
is in complete disarray with mud and debris throughout. All
upholstery is wet and muddy and headliner is stained. Vessel
has a 1993 32hp Picies diesel 3 cylinder inboard. Engine was
submerged and is seized.

Scotty wrote:
You call this a fixer upper?

Vessel was damaged and submerged during hurricane. The decks
buckled. Both hull sides cracked and crushed from deck to
water line. Fractures to hull are complete.
Teak decking is loose and in poor condition. Windows are in
fair condition with some broken. Gauges and controls were
all submerged and are in poor condition. Interior of vessel
is in complete disarray with mud and debris throughout. All
upholstery is wet and muddy and headliner is stained. Vessel
has a 1993 32hp Picies diesel 3 cylinder inboard. Engine was
submerged and is seized.


Yeah, but it would make a great stepping stone

DSK

Too bad it wasn't a steel boat. At least you could get
scrap money for it.

Scotty


"DSK" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:
You call this a fixer upper?

Vessel was damaged and submerged during hurricane. The
decks
buckled. Both hull sides cracked and crushed from deck
to
water line. Fractures to hull are complete.
Teak decking is loose and in poor condition. Windows are
in
fair condition with some broken. Gauges and controls
were
all submerged and are in poor condition. Interior of
vessel
is in complete disarray with mud and debris throughout.
All
upholstery is wet and muddy and headliner is stained.
Vessel
has a 1993 32hp Picies diesel 3 cylinder inboard. Engine
was
submerged and is seized.


Yeah, but it would make a great stepping stone

DSK

Scotty wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com..
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DSK wrote:


But taking these boats ouot of circulation will reduce
the
supply and keep up the demand so that the rest of us
will be
able to sell our boats one day for more than a pittance.
Thus is The Balance maintained.

No doubt, we seen 100+ storm boats go thru our
shipyard...


The same seller who has the benny has this gem in the
rough:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/6232-...eoy-Lee_W0QQit
emZ280019604565QQihZ018QQcategoryZ63731QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

Sure is a nice fixer upper.


You call this a fixer upper?

Vessel was damaged and submerged during hurricane. The decks
buckled.

Buckled decks...big deal! probley from the crushed hull, fis the hull
and the decks fall in place.


Both hull sides cracked and crushed from deck to
water line.

NICE CLEAN BREAK, makes for a nice scab

Fractures to hull are complete.

That's good...no hidden damage!

Teak decking is loose and in poor condition.

Little glue and sanding..that's all.

Windows are in
fair condition with some broken.

Glass and glazing compond..10 bucks!

Gauges and controls were
all submerged and are in poor condition.

just rinse them, they will be fine, what and oil and temp gauge cost
anyway? 30 bucks each at Auto-Zone.

Interior of vessel
is in complete disarray with mud and debris throughout. All
upholstery is wet and muddy and headliner is stained.

Thats good, salvage the hardware, trim ect, make a clean gut, gotta get
at the hull to scab the cracks, maybe add a few new stringers anyway.

Vessel
has a 1993 32hp Picies diesel 3 cylinder inboard. Engine was
submerged and is seized.

WD 40, emery cloth and a wooden mallet! problem fixed..

Lot's of elbow grease, couple rolls of glass mat, 55 gallon drum of
resin, plywwood, and BAM you have a sweet little cruiser...no
problem...if you have the spare time :0)

Joe

E-bay loves people like Joe.


"Joe" wrote in message
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Scotty wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

oups.com..
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DSK wrote:


But taking these boats ouot of circulation will
reduce
the
supply and keep up the demand so that the rest of us
will be
able to sell our boats one day for more than a
pittance.
Thus is The Balance maintained.

No doubt, we seen 100+ storm boats go thru our
shipyard...


The same seller who has the benny has this gem in the
rough:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/6232-...eoy-Lee_W0QQit

emZ280019604565QQihZ018QQcategoryZ63731QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

Sure is a nice fixer upper.


You call this a fixer upper?

Vessel was damaged and submerged during hurricane. The
decks
buckled.

Buckled decks...big deal! probley from the crushed hull,
fis the hull
and the decks fall in place.


Both hull sides cracked and crushed from deck to
water line.

NICE CLEAN BREAK, makes for a nice scab

Fractures to hull are complete.

That's good...no hidden damage!

Teak decking is loose and in poor condition.

Little glue and sanding..that's all.

Windows are in
fair condition with some broken.

Glass and glazing compond..10 bucks!

Gauges and controls were
all submerged and are in poor condition.

just rinse them, they will be fine, what and oil and temp
gauge cost
anyway? 30 bucks each at Auto-Zone.

Interior of vessel
is in complete disarray with mud and debris throughout.
All
upholstery is wet and muddy and headliner is stained.

Thats good, salvage the hardware, trim ect, make a clean
gut, gotta get
at the hull to scab the cracks, maybe add a few new
stringers anyway.

Vessel
has a 1993 32hp Picies diesel 3 cylinder inboard. Engine
was
submerged and is seized.

WD 40, emery cloth and a wooden mallet! problem fixed..

Lot's of elbow grease, couple rolls of glass mat, 55
gallon drum of
resin, plywwood, and BAM you have a sweet little
cruiser...no
problem...if you have the spare time :0)

Joe