I'm saying offshore in any weather the 35s5 is a big time loser. But
she was not buildt to go out of the site of land, sure some dare devils

will, but not bubbles.


Joe, you expose yourself with every post. There's no reason not to take
a 35s5 offshore if that's the game plan. In fact, with more than half
racing in Europe, many of the races are quite long and offshore.
There's no reason to not take a Catalina 30 offshore either, so long as
you watch the large companionway hatch.

My voyage, when I choose
to depart, will be Epic compared to anything you will ever do at
sea.


Yeah, we hear that all the time. And we also have some nice plans to
set off for longer sailing adventures down the road. But let me give
you a tip. There are plenty of things that can trip you up while you
wait. If you have any love for sailing itself, go today. Don't wait for
tomorrow. In an hour we'll be off for an afternoon sail. I don't need
to cross an ocean to enjoy the wind in my sails. Even a few hours is
fantastic. Every time, Joe. Because we love it. If you think sailing is
only about sailing distances, winning races, where you sail, or the
type of design you prefer, you've missed the whole point.

Just getting out on the
water is not a deep desire.


Well it might occur to you that there are plenty of folks who love to
sail and getting out there is any capacity is great. I don't meet any
sailors, including the ones who cross oceans, who don't yearn to be on
the water, even for a day.


A fine ocean cruiser with AC's installed that work while underway,
same with the fridge, freezer, microwave, fans, icemaker, radar, sonar,

TV's ect....just like a home...not a weekend french winnabago camper,
on par to a coleman tent with a porta pottie.

If you feel you need all of that onboard, so be it. We've spent a few
nights aboard our 35s5 and love it. If we end up wanting the AC, we'll
drop in an genset easy as pie. The platform and harness are already in
place. But we probably won't need it. We will be sailing and have
exactly the right gear for local sailing, weekending and longer trips.
When we need a bigger boat, we'll get it. It will still be fast, unlike
your boat. And we won't spend years outfitting it. Joe, you're story is
quite old and tired, but I hope (against the odds) that it works out.
You must know that it often doesn't.

35s5 were made
for. Only a fool would take either boats offshore.

Since I personally know people who go offshore in Beneteau's, Tartans,
J-Boats, Catalinas and Columbia's, I really have no idea of what you're
talking about. 35s5's have circumnavigated, Joe. All it takes is time.

Infact my LaBrisa is perfect for the type of sailing you do Robert


No it's not. We take weekend trips and almost always have 5-7 people
aboard for daysails. We make good use of the cabin and Thomas has his
own play area in the aft cabin.

The hull speed of RedCloud is 13 kts.
Whats the hull speed of a 35s5?

Joe, why do you do this to yourself? Why???? You must know this sort of
thing makes you look dumb, desperate and ready to go nova. Your boat
does not have a hull speed of 13 knots. A Swan 57 is barely over 9
knots fer cripes sake.

Our boat is faster. It's certainly nicer and newer. It's getting good
use TODAY and not waiting for some pipe dream to shake off 400 lbs of
rust. EVERY DAY YOU POST HERE is another day when Heart of Gold is
doing what we want her to, while your boat is simply a waste. And
you've proven that with your own words beyond any doubt.


RB
35s5
NY