Capt.Crunch wrote:


My friend's 1979 J30 was a bit slower, but
still faster than Joe's steel snail. Back at the club a J29 racer said
he hit 14 knots!

Well duh...My labrisa will hit 20+ knots in such wind,


Now...let's put this in perspective. ALL of these boats, including ours
have much less WL than Red Cloud and we're all STILL faster! When you
stop to think how slow Joe's boat truly is, it's mind boggling. Now,
imagine light air! Yikes! Maybe Joe should get an 90 foot motorsailor.
That should be faster than a 35s5, right?
Joe has now also admitted that he sails a tiny fast boat to get his
true sailing fix. Too bad he couldn't afford one boat to fit his needs
as we did.

My long term need is to cruise for several years on end bubbles.
Therefore RedClouds fits my needs to a T long term. I do not need
little stepping stones to build my confidence. My voyage, when I choose
to depart, will be Epic compared to anything you will ever do at sea.

Since my office and home is onboard, and other obligations and
commitments keep me from departing now I'm taking my sweet time fitting
her out and enjoying small sails down the coast and a few regettas,
that BTW average 250 miles offshore 1 way. Just getting out on the
water is not a deep desire.

Now, am I saying Dead Cloud is a bad boat?

I'm saying offshore in any weather the 35s5 is a big time loser. But
she was not buildt to go out of the site of land, sure some dare devils
will, but not bubbles.

Not at all. Poor Joe has a
fat,


is a 12' beam fat for a 42 footer? Some 30 footers have 12 ft beams
Robert...sheezeee


ungainly boat,

Trimmed and balanced in 30 knot winds she sails and rides like a cloud.
I can single handle her myself bubbles. So whats ungainley?

A fine ocean cruiser with AC's installed that work while underway,
same with the fridge, freezer, microwave, fans, icemaker, radar, sonar,
TV's ect....just like a home...not a weekend french winnabago camper,
on par to a coleman tent with a porta pottie.

Why pull out the Big guns when a .22 will do day sailing?

Now for fun and weekends I have a labrisa. True shes not an offshore
boat, she is made for conditions that boats like your 35s5 were made
for. Only a fool would take either boats offshore. Both boats are to
fragile and tender, but fun none the less.

Infact my LaBrisa is perfect for the type of sailing you do Robert just
faster, no heavy engine, usless AC's, prop drag and comfy for 4 people.
She's tender like your 35s5 I must admit, so you have to stay on your
toes. We take it out most every day..this time of year the 15:00 -
19:00 time slot has steady 15-20 kt winds everyday like clock work.
looking forward to planing over 20kts soon. The boat is pure sailing
fun, no stick on fakeness involved or needed. For a calm sunset sail to
blasting across the lake ahead of a squall, to sailing to the fine
resturants on the bordwalk the labrisa is hard to beat.

The hull speed of RedCloud is 13 kts.
Whats the hull speed of a 35s5?

My Labrisa can plane...Can the 35s5 plane?

Labrisa Pure sailing preformance

....35s5 prop drag, smelly exhaust, "hot and humid below" complicated,
ugly.

It's just killing you... You and your puppets are green with envy. Just
give it up Rob, you are so out of shape you are going to have a massave
heart attack if you try to acheive my sailing lifestyle. Face it old
man, your hair is balding, your gut is expanding, you are driving a
soccer moms van, and your boat is all french fluff. Soon you will be a
full fledged member of the PTA and the AARP at the same time.

Joe

RB
35s5
NY