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Bob Crantz January 29th 06 08:24 PM

Bush to build Concentration Camps, Cheney to Profit!
 
It's all true!

Right he

http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...i?ArtNum=18489

When will the atrocities ever stop?????????

Amen!



Bart Senior January 29th 06 11:27 PM

Bush to build Concentration Camps, Cheney to Profit!
 
Hard to believe.

"Bob Crantz" wrote
It's all true!

Right he

http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...i?ArtNum=18489

When will the atrocities ever stop?????????

Amen!




Capt. JG January 29th 06 11:40 PM

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Why? It was done in WWII.

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"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
Hard to believe.

"Bob Crantz" wrote
It's all true!

Right he

http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...i?ArtNum=18489

When will the atrocities ever stop?????????

Amen!






thunder January 30th 06 12:01 AM

Bush to build Concentration Camps, Cheney to Profit!
 
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 18:27:06 -0500, wrote:

Hard to believe.


FEMA's original mandate was in case of nuclear war. In it's original
form much of it's budget was "black". With the end of the Cold War, and
FEMA's poor response to Hurricane Andrew it's focus was changed. With the
War on Terrorism, I suspect it's returning to it's "black" origins.
There's some interesting reading if you search on REX 84 and Oliver North.
If you're interested:

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/FBI/FEMA_ITSG.html

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/fema.html

http://www.theuniversalseduction.com...nt-for-tyranny

Bart Senior January 30th 06 01:02 AM

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It would be ok with me as long as I can chose who goes
in there.

"Capt. JG" wrote
Why? It was done in WWII.

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote
Hard to believe.

"Bob Crantz" wrote
http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...i?ArtNum=18489




Bob Crantz January 30th 06 01:16 AM

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Interesting reading.



"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 18:27:06 -0500, wrote:

Hard to believe.


FEMA's original mandate was in case of nuclear war. In it's original
form much of it's budget was "black". With the end of the Cold War, and
FEMA's poor response to Hurricane Andrew it's focus was changed. With the
War on Terrorism, I suspect it's returning to it's "black" origins.
There's some interesting reading if you search on REX 84 and Oliver North.
If you're interested:

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/FBI/FEMA_ITSG.html

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/fema.html

http://www.theuniversalseduction.com...nt-for-tyranny




Capt. JG January 30th 06 05:09 AM

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Me too! :-)

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"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
It would be ok with me as long as I can chose who goes
in there.

"Capt. JG" wrote
Why? It was done in WWII.

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote
Hard to believe.

"Bob Crantz" wrote
http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...i?ArtNum=18489






Thom Stewart January 30th 06 05:51 AM

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The British had Con. Camp to keep the Jews of Europe from going to
Palistine. They weren't very nice either.


Capt. JG January 30th 06 07:12 AM

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I used to be amazed at the cruelty one person is willing to inflict upon
another. I'm not any more.

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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
The British had Con. Camp to keep the Jews of Europe from going to
Palistine. They weren't very nice either.




DSK January 30th 06 12:17 PM

Bush to build Concentration Camps, Cheney to Profit!
 
Thom Stewart wrote:
The British had Con. Camp to keep the Jews of Europe from going to
Palistine. They weren't very nice either.


The British may or may not have invented the concentration
camp, but they invented the term. In the Boer War
(1899-1902) in what is now South Africa, the descendants of
Dutch settlers were widely disperesed through the country
and very effective guerrillas. So the British Army passed
out orders to gather them up and "concentrate" them, meaning
basically to keep as many of them as possible gathered in
small areas where they could be kept from becoming or
supporting guerrillas. The orders were vague on how they
should be treated, it's likley that the British did not have
bad intentions but due to lack of instruction the minimum
was done to feed & shelter them, much less take sanitary
measures... with predictable results.

They also invented the blitzkrieg.


Capt. JG wrote:
I used to be amazed at the cruelty one person is willing to inflict upon
another. I'm not any more.


Don't listen to Elvis much, do ya?

DSK


Vito January 30th 06 02:04 PM

Bush to build Concentration Camps, Cheney to Profit!
 
"Bob Crantz" wrote
It's all true!

Right he

http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...i?ArtNum=18489

When will the atrocities ever stop?????????

Amen!

The crap will stop when religious kooks quit electing people like Bush.



Bob Crantz January 30th 06 05:48 PM

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God appoints Bush!

It is Divine Intervention!

Amen!

"Vito" wrote in message
...
"Bob Crantz" wrote
It's all true!

Right he

http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...i?ArtNum=18489

When will the atrocities ever stop?????????

Amen!

The crap will stop when religious kooks quit electing people like Bush.





Bart Senior January 30th 06 05:50 PM

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It wasn't religious kooks that elected Bush, it was
the middle voting against the left-wing kooks.

The conservatives have only one kook, Pat Robertson
who they check when he gets out of line, while the left
has a long list of kooks, who get encouragement by
the liberal for their nonsense.

I think it is great that the Democrat have fallen to such
a sorry state--they don't deserve to hold office.


"Vito" wrote
The crap will stop when religious kooks quit electing people like Bush.




Bob Crantz January 30th 06 06:02 PM

Bush to build Concentration Camps, Cheney to Profit!
 

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
It wasn't religious kooks that elected Bush, it was
the middle voting against the left-wing kooks.

The conservatives have only one kook, Pat Robertson
who they check when he gets out of line, while the left
has a long list of kooks, who get encouragement by
the liberal for their nonsense.

I think it is great that the Democrat have fallen to such
a sorry state--they don't deserve to hold office.


"Vito" wrote
The crap will stop when religious kooks quit electing people like Bush.



Actually, I wish the Democrats would get better. We need more competitive
political choices. The Republicans have gone spend crazy. They're killing
the country faster than the Democrats. I pray for some conservative
Democrats to appear!

Amen!



Matt Colie January 30th 06 06:32 PM

Bush to build Concentration Camps, Cheney to Profit!
 
Bart,

You forgot to include a references to Moveon.org for balance.

Bart Senior wrote:
Hard to believe.

"Bob Crantz" wrote

It's all true!

Right he

http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...i?ArtNum=18489

When will the atrocities ever stop?????????

Amen!





Bart Senior January 30th 06 08:41 PM

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Good point. I'd like to see spending reduced drastically.

Joe Lieberman is one Democrat with some sense, but
being a Jew is enough to stop the Liberals from voting
for him. He, at least, doesn't play tap dancing games.

You never hear him crying like a little girl, a la Gore, or
with verbal diarrhea like Howard Dean or the Democratic
party's most extremist Ted Kennedy.


"Bob Crantz" wrote

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
I think it is great that the Democrat have fallen to such
a sorry state--they don't deserve to hold office.


Actually, I wish the Democrats would get better. We need more competitive
political choices. The Republicans have gone spend crazy. They're killing
the country faster than the Democrats. I pray for some conservative
Democrats to appear!




Bart Senior January 30th 06 08:50 PM

Bush to build Concentration Camps, Cheney to Profit!
 
I don't get your point.

"Matt Colie" wrote
Bart,
You forgot to include a references to Moveon.org for balance.


Bart Senior wrote:
Hard to believe.


"Bob Crantz" wrote
It's all true!
Right he
http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...i?ArtNum=18489
When will the atrocities ever stop?????????




Thom Stewart January 30th 06 09:26 PM

Bush to build Concentration Camps, Cheney to Profit!
 
Well;--- Now let's see;

Halliburton has just declared it's highest profit year in its 86 year
history!

Oxxon/Mobil has just declared the largest profit year in the history of
the US for any Corp. in spite of hurrance, floods, war and God only
knows what else.

The Enron Trial has finally been set; maybe?

The GOP can't seem to shut up Abramoff as Republicans resign.

The White House is in the midst of a "Palace Revolt"

The GOP is driving the country farther & farther into debt

We can't seem to get out of Iraq.

Bin Laden is still alive and free even after we've invaded two country
in attempting to capture him.

Thank God there are no Liberals helping King George 2nd :^) We could
really be in trouble!!!


Capt. JG January 30th 06 09:39 PM

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Why would being Jewish stop liberals from voting for him??

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"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...

Good point. I'd like to see spending reduced drastically.

Joe Lieberman is one Democrat with some sense, but
being a Jew is enough to stop the Liberals from voting
for him. He, at least, doesn't play tap dancing games.

You never hear him crying like a little girl, a la Gore, or
with verbal diarrhea like Howard Dean or the Democratic
party's most extremist Ted Kennedy.


"Bob Crantz" wrote

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
I think it is great that the Democrat have fallen to such
a sorry state--they don't deserve to hold office.


Actually, I wish the Democrats would get better. We need more competitive
political choices. The Republicans have gone spend crazy. They're killing
the country faster than the Democrats. I pray for some conservative
Democrats to appear!






Joe January 30th 06 10:20 PM

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Hey Thom, This is a free country, if the oil(pronounced "all" ) folks
wanna & do make some money thats good.

Shucks the guy with the 55 foot crewboat next to me and I went and
looked at a 120 ft crewboat for sale in Galveston about 8 mo. ago. The
asking price was 310K for a 1989 boat. We offered 250 and they turned
us down.. I just found out that same boat sold yesterday for 1.2
million. I missed the boat on that one, but someones going to have lots
of cash to spread around. You can not find a crewboat for sale anymore
.....they are all working.

Whats good for big oil is good for the country.

Joe


Donal January 30th 06 11:33 PM

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"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
Hard to believe.


Open your eyes!

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?050214fa_fact6


http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight...es/005573.html



Regards


Donal
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Vito January 31st 06 04:23 PM

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"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
It wasn't religious kooks that elected Bush, it was
the middle voting against the left-wing kooks.


It was the religious kooks who nominated him the first time.


The conservatives have only one kook, Pat Robertson....


Naw, there's one on every pulpit.

Some Democrats are wising up. They lost what should have been a shoo in in Va
some years back when they hopped into bed with Kennedy and hyped Gun Control.
Same must have happened other places because 'crat strategists have noted "every
time a Democrat says gun control he looses 1000 votes". Then we had two GOP
governors, one going on to the Senate. But they have something to learn too:
every time they say "no right to die" it costs them votes. Meanwhile we've had a
conservative democrat governor (Warner) who turned the states finances around,
fixed our credit rating, and attracted a bunch of new businesses and jobs - ie
the stuff that counts. We're so happy with that we elected another one!



Bart Senior January 31st 06 07:17 PM

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"Vito" wrote

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote
It wasn't religious kooks that elected Bush, it was
the middle voting against the left-wing kooks.


It was the religious kooks who nominated him the first time.


I'm pleased you think so. I enjoy it when liberals show
themselves to be out of touch with reality.



Joe January 31st 06 08:19 PM

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Once while in a corporate training session live across Conferview
office to office, one of my associates was explaining how companies
were trying to "Jew" down his fee's.

OMG.... several of the other offices were all Jewish.

Oh man....did the **** hit the fan on that one :0)

Joe


Bob Crantz January 31st 06 09:33 PM

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Christ was Jewish!

Oy vey!

Amen!

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On 31 Jan 2006 12:19:05 -0800, "Joe" said:

Once while in a corporate training session live across Conferview
office to office, one of my associates was explaining how companies
were trying to "Jew" down his fee's.

OMG.... several of the other offices were all Jewish.


That's one of those expressions that truly highlights cultural
differences.
Most Jews I know, including my wife, think it most odd that haggling over
price offends Wasp sensibilities. Conversely, a lot of the folks using the
term "Jewing him down" likely never met a Jew in their lives.




Matt Colie January 31st 06 11:37 PM

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www.freedom4um.com is known for its singular point of view.
I don't believe everything I read and only half of what I see.

Bart Senior wrote:

I don't get your point.

"Matt Colie" wrote

Bart,
You forgot to include a references to Moveon.org for balance.



Bart Senior wrote:

Hard to believe.



"Bob Crantz" wrote

It's all true!
Right he
http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...i?ArtNum=18489
When will the atrocities ever stop?????????





Bart Senior February 1st 06 12:36 AM

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I would certainly not put in moveon.org for balance.

Both groups are kooks.


"Matt Colie" wrote
www.freedom4um.com is known for its singular point of view.
I don't believe everything I read and only half of what I see.


Bart Senior wrote:
I don't get your point.


"Matt Colie" wrote


Bart,
You forgot to include a references to Moveon.org for balance.


Bart Senior wrote:
Hard to believe.



"Bob Crantz" wrote
It's all true!
Right he
http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...i?ArtNum=18489
When will the atrocities ever stop?????????




Bob Crantz February 1st 06 01:31 AM

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Because he wears pointy shoes.



"Mys Terry" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:33:37 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
wrote:

Christ was Jewish!


Then how come he has a Puerto Rican name?





[email protected] February 1st 06 02:54 AM

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DSK wrote:
Thom Stewart wrote:
The British had Con. Camp to keep the Jews of Europe from going to
Palistine. They weren't very nice either.


The British may or may not have invented the concentration
camp, but they invented the term.


No, they didn't. Two British journalists translated the Spanish
term 'reconcentrado' into English. A reconcentrado was a Spanish
concentration camp used in Cuba in 1896-1898.

In the Boer War
(1899-1902) in what is now South Africa, the descendants of
Dutch settlers were widely disperesed through the country
and very effective guerrillas. So the British Army passed
out orders to gather them up and "concentrate" them, meaning
basically to keep as many of them as possible gathered in
small areas where they could be kept from becoming or
supporting guerrillas. The orders were vague on how they
should be treated, it's likley that the British did not have
bad intentions but due to lack of instruction the minimum
was done to feed & shelter them,


This is the minimum is it?

==

THE GREAT ANGLO-BOER WAR Byron Farwell ISBN 0-393-30659-3, page 400:


"In the concentration camps the food was neither good nor plentiful,
and certainly did not make for a balanced diet. Still, no-one died of
starvation."

Malnutrition, not starvation. The camps were well-supplied
with food, as the demonstration before the Ladies Committee
at Bloemfontein shows. The Boer women threw meat on the ground
in front of the Committee as a sign of rebellion.

"Women threw large portions, which had been newly served out, of
good though thin meat, into the wide roadway of the camp. It
would have made very good broth or stew."

==

"They lived in a way that used to make the brutal soldier's mouth water

when he came into town after trekking. Our food in the Mounted
Infantry was generally good enough, but we never had shelter.... These

persecuted people, however, were living in cool, roomy marquees and
were paid for doing things for themselves. Thus if they wanted an oven

to bake their bread in the men made one and got paid for it."

==

ISBN 0-393-30659-3

Standing Orders to the superintendents of the Transvaal camps-

"There must be no stinting in the distribution of medical comforts
to the sick and convalscent, old and infirm people and young children.
When necessary, stimulants may be freely given under doctor's orders.
There must be an adequate supply of milk, which should be liberally
applied to children and deserving people, as well as the sick and
convalescent."

ibid, page 407.

==

much less take sanitary
measures... with predictable results.


Well, to me it looks like the Boers couldn't be bothered to take
sanitary measures.

==

"a large number of deaths in the concetration camps have
been directly and obviously caused by the noxious compounds
given by Boer women to their children".
Page 415 THE GREAT ANGLO-BOER WAR by Byron Farwell.

Let's review these practices...

"Tar on the feet was a common remedy for reducing fever.
Dog's blood was in demand as a medicine.
Cow dung was smeared on the chest for bronchitis and applied to limbs
affected by rheumatism.
Horse dung, boiled and strained, was given to those convalescing from
enteric.
A black chicken was cut open and applied bleeding to the chest for
inflammation of the lungs"

"Mr. Randle was surprised to see a cat running about the tent with all
its fur clipped off. He inquired the cause and was told the fur had
been
cut off and roasted and then applied to his child's chest as a remedy
for
bronchitis."
page 406, THE GREAT ANGLO-BOER WAR, Byron Farwell.

==

Boer sanitation:
"Trekboer women, for example, accustomed all their lives to defecating
in the open veld and moving on, ought to have been instructed in the
use
of latrines and made to use them. Instead, they simply used the space
around their tents."

"The habits of the people in general are such as would
be a disgrace as to any European nation.... Napkins for
babies are seldom used. They are allowed to mess their
beds, which lie for days without being washed or aired,
and the tents absolutely stink of decomposing urine, etc."
-- Dr. G. B. Woodroffe, camp medical officer, Irene Camp.

page 409, THE GREAT ANGLO-BOER WAR, Byron Farwell.

"At Krugersdorp Dr. Franks reported that milk had been
prescribed for a four-month old infant with bronchitis, but
the mother fed it sardines and it died within two days."
page 407, ibid.

==

They also invented the blitzkrieg.


But we never had the sense to use it.


Capt. JG wrote:
I used to be amazed at the cruelty one person is willing to inflict upon
another. I'm not any more.


Don't listen to Elvis much, do ya?

DSK



Vito February 1st 06 01:17 PM

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"Bart Senior" .@. wrote
I'm pleased you think so. I enjoy it when liberals show
themselves to be out of touch with reality.

Sorry Bart but I'm a dyed in the wool Goldwater Conservative and a card carrying
member of RNC.




Vito February 1st 06 01:36 PM

Bush to build Concentration Camps, Cheney to Profit!
 
"Dave" wrote
That's one of those expressions that truly highlights cultural differences.
Most Jews I know, including my wife, think it most odd that haggling over
price offends Wasp sensibilities. Conversely, a lot of the folks using the
term "Jewing him down" likely never met a Jew in their lives.


It's biblical and at the root of both faiths, as well as a fine joke.

Abraham is lazying in his tent in the noon heat when who should come hiking
across the desert but God himself. Abie quickly invites him in for a veal
sandwich and inquires his destination. "To Sodom and Gomarrah to check out
rumors that the people there are disobeying me, and it that's true to smite
them!" "Oy!" thinks Abie "My slums" and asks God if he would spare his slums
for 50 good souls. God agrees, but Abie knows he can't find 50 so he proceeds to
"jew" God down from 50 to 5 IIRC. But then he can't even produce the 5!

God tells Abie that he really likes him and plans to give him and his
descendents all the land between the two great rivers (most of what's now Iraq)
..... but Abie needs a badge or mark to show that he is God's favorite. Then God
has Abie cut off the end of his penis - and all his sons penises, and so on.
And to this day .....

Thus the perchance for God's chosen People to bargain. It's an integral part of
their beliefs.



DSK February 1st 06 01:40 PM

Bush to build Concentration Camps, Cheney to Profit!
 
The British may or may not have invented the concentration
camp, but they invented the term.



wrote:
No, they didn't. Two British journalists translated the Spanish
term 'reconcentrado' into English. A reconcentrado was a Spanish
concentration camp used in Cuba in 1896-1898.


OK, thanks for the info.



They also invented the blitzkrieg.



But we never had the sense to use it.


I'd put it somewhat differently: "had the sense not to use
it where inappropriate, and the good fortune not to need it."

DSK


Bob Crantz February 1st 06 02:40 PM

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"Vito" wrote in message

I'm a dyed in the wool Goldwater Conservative


I would like to shake your hand. Goldwater was a great man!

"I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more
efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote
welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to
repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones
that do violence to the Constitution, or that have failed in their purpose,
or that impose on the people an unwarranted financial burden. I will not
attempt to discover whether legislation is 'needed' before I have first
determined whether it is constitutionally permissible. And if I should later
be attacked for neglecting my constituents' interests, I shall reply that I
was informed their main interest is liberty and that in that cause I am
doing the very best I can."

AMEN!!!!



Jonathan Ganz February 1st 06 11:58 PM

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In article ,
Vito wrote:
"Dave" wrote
That's one of those expressions that truly highlights cultural differences.
Most Jews I know, including my wife, think it most odd that haggling over
price offends Wasp sensibilities. Conversely, a lot of the folks using the
term "Jewing him down" likely never met a Jew in their lives.


It's biblical and at the root of both faiths, as well as a fine joke.

Abraham is lazying in his tent in the noon heat when who should come hiking
across the desert but God himself. Abie quickly invites him in for a veal
sandwich and inquires his destination. "To Sodom and Gomarrah to check out
rumors that the people there are disobeying me, and it that's true to smite
them!" "Oy!" thinks Abie "My slums" and asks God if he would spare his slums
for 50 good souls. God agrees, but Abie knows he can't find 50 so he proceeds to
"jew" God down from 50 to 5 IIRC. But then he can't even produce the 5!

God tells Abie that he really likes him and plans to give him and his
descendents all the land between the two great rivers (most of what's now Iraq)
.... but Abie needs a badge or mark to show that he is God's favorite. Then God
has Abie cut off the end of his penis - and all his sons penises, and so on.
And to this day .....

Thus the perchance for God's chosen People to bargain. It's an integral part of
their beliefs.


Thus, you have no idea what you're talking about. Ever been to Mexico?
They bargin like crazy and expect it. Are they Jews?

It's a racist comment... jewing down. Disgusting.



--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com



Bob Crantz February 2nd 06 02:03 AM

Bush to build Concentration Camps, Cheney to Profit!
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Vito wrote:
"Dave" wrote
That's one of those expressions that truly highlights cultural
differences.
Most Jews I know, including my wife, think it most odd that haggling
over
price offends Wasp sensibilities. Conversely, a lot of the folks using
the
term "Jewing him down" likely never met a Jew in their lives.


It's biblical and at the root of both faiths, as well as a fine joke.

Abraham is lazying in his tent in the noon heat when who should come
hiking
across the desert but God himself. Abie quickly invites him in for a veal
sandwich and inquires his destination. "To Sodom and Gomarrah to check
out
rumors that the people there are disobeying me, and it that's true to
smite
them!" "Oy!" thinks Abie "My slums" and asks God if he would spare his
slums
for 50 good souls. God agrees, but Abie knows he can't find 50 so he
proceeds to
"jew" God down from 50 to 5 IIRC. But then he can't even produce the 5!

God tells Abie that he really likes him and plans to give him and his
descendents all the land between the two great rivers (most of what's now
Iraq)
.... but Abie needs a badge or mark to show that he is God's favorite.
Then God
has Abie cut off the end of his penis - and all his sons penises, and so
on.
And to this day .....

Thus the perchance for God's chosen People to bargain. It's an integral
part of
their beliefs.


Thus, you have no idea what you're talking about. Ever been to Mexico?
They bargin like crazy and expect it. Are they Jews?

It's a racist comment... jewing down. Disgusting.

It's not a racist comment. Jews aren't a race. Mexico has a barter economy,
so haggling is prevelant. So does the Middle East, where Jews originated. I
believe the propensity for some Jews to haggle comes from tradition, passed
down from their ancestry in the Middle East.

Think of the Jewish tailor robots in the Woody Allen movie "Sleeper". "You
want velvet? We got velvet. We got simple, we got complicated. What are you
worried? Drop dead, can't you see I got a customer!"



Jonathan Ganz February 2nd 06 02:14 AM

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In article . net,
Bob Crantz wrote:
It's a racist comment... jewing down. Disgusting.

It's not a racist comment. Jews aren't a race. Mexico has a barter economy,
so haggling is prevelant. So does the Middle East, where Jews originated. I
believe the propensity for some Jews to haggle comes from tradition, passed
down from their ancestry in the Middle East.


By most standards of definition in use today, Jews are a race. In any
case, it's a disgusting comment not worthy of additional discussion.
Anyone who uses such a phrase denegrates an entire people.





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Bob Crantz February 2nd 06 02:29 AM

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
Bob Crantz wrote:
It's a racist comment... jewing down. Disgusting.

It's not a racist comment. Jews aren't a race. Mexico has a barter
economy,
so haggling is prevelant. So does the Middle East, where Jews originated.
I
believe the propensity for some Jews to haggle comes from tradition,
passed
down from their ancestry in the Middle East.


By most standards of definition in use today, Jews are a race. In any
case, it's a disgusting comment not worthy of additional discussion.
Anyone who uses such a phrase denegrates an entire people.

A person can be denigrated only by their own choice.



Jonathan Ganz February 2nd 06 02:47 AM

Bush to build Concentration Camps, Cheney to Profit!
 
In article . net,
Bob Crantz wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
Bob Crantz wrote:
It's a racist comment... jewing down. Disgusting.

It's not a racist comment. Jews aren't a race. Mexico has a barter
economy,
so haggling is prevelant. So does the Middle East, where Jews originated.
I
believe the propensity for some Jews to haggle comes from tradition,
passed
down from their ancestry in the Middle East.


By most standards of definition in use today, Jews are a race. In any
case, it's a disgusting comment not worthy of additional discussion.
Anyone who uses such a phrase denegrates an entire people.

A person can be denigrated only by their own choice.


That's very philosphical, but has no basis in reality. Try that with
the wrong crowd, and you're likely to get stomped.



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Vito February 2nd 06 01:48 PM

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote
Thus, you have no idea what you're talking about. Ever been to Mexico?
They bargin like crazy and expect it. Are they Jews?


As do Arabs and many other cultures. I didn't say that Jews were the only
bargainers in the world or even the best or most fervent. I merely pointed out
that bargaining is implicite in their religion.

It's a racist comment... jewing down. Disgusting.

No, it is not, because Jews do not comprise a "race". Nor is it derogatory (you
must have a streak of antisemetism in you that you're ashamed of to think it
is). I know may non-Jews who proudly brag about 'Jewing' others down. Some of
them wisely keep a 'Jew Book' - a record of their income & expenditures.



Vito February 2nd 06 01:59 PM

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote

By most standards of definition in use today, Jews are a race. In any
case, it's a disgusting comment not worthy of additional discussion.
Anyone who uses such a phrase denegrates an entire people.

Most? Maybe in NYC but not in the real world. Judaism is a culture and
religion. Most Jews today are of European stock having lost their semetism by
intermarriage over the millenia.

Denegrates? How about honors?? In a culture that values one's ability to
bargain, having that ability called by the name of your culture would seem a
compliment to me. It is only perjorative in the mind of somebody who thinks
that bargaining is dishonorable .... somebody like you????




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