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katy February 6th 06 07:32 PM

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Capt. JG wrote:
Jus kiddin... that's why the smilie at the end... I like gypsies... great
hats.

You mean scarves....

katy February 6th 06 07:34 PM

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Dave wrote:
On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:16:30 -0500, katy
said:


Callousness destroys and leads to usage of slang
and jingoism that affronts and destroys.



Jingoism?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingoism

Capt. JG February 6th 06 09:11 PM

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I'm just using left-wing jargon. I wouldn't want to shock people. :-)

So, answer my questions.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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I suggest that your use of the term "fly over states" speaks volumes.

QED.


On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:47:09 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

So, Dave, you're saying that when you say something like jewing down
someone, this has no negative connotation beyond sight of either coast?
Does
this mean that you believe people in the fly over states are uneducated or
just rude by nature? Or, is there some other justification you'd like to
give for atrocious behavior?

Or, wait, are you saying that just because a bunch of people think it's ok
to say things like this, that makes it ok to say them...

What exactly are the subtleties of which you speak? I would really like to
know.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 09:26:36 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

There are very few subtketies with the phrase, unless you're uneducated.

The inability to appreciate such subtleties is, I suspect, the result of
the
above writer's own provincialism. There's a big world outside the right
and
left coasts, Jon.




Capt. JG February 6th 06 09:12 PM

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Umm.. yeah.

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"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
Jus kiddin... that's why the smilie at the end... I like gypsies... great
hats.

You mean scarves....




Capt. JG February 6th 06 09:13 PM

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And, you know this how?

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 09:37:42 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

I'd stop using it, at least in
their presence.


LOL. IOW, it's fine to tell Pollack jokes so long as there are no Pollacks
around.




Capt. JG February 6th 06 09:13 PM

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Hahahaa... or you don't know they never get it.

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"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 09:37:42 -0800, "Capt. JG"

said:

I'd stop using it, at least in
their presence.


LOL. IOW, it's fine to tell Pollack jokes so long as there are

no Pollacks
around.


They never get the punch line anyway.

Scotty





Capt. JG February 6th 06 09:15 PM

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I'm sure you can't. Not my fault. Seem pretty clear to me. It sure makes it
easy for you when you don't include the pervious commnet.

Here it is again:

Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:16:30 -0500, katy

said:

There is nothing wrong with a modicum of sensitivity to
your fellow man.


No dispute about that. I suggest that individual sensitivity to one's
fellow
man is far preferable to groupthink of the type Jon seems to propose. I
find
it unfortunate that increasingly a rule-based "there oughta be a law"
approach is replacing other social controls such as learned individual
sensitivity.


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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 09:39:42 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

What group think is that. Picture yourself in a crowded room. You're
talking
in a loud voice, because it's noisy, and you use that phrase. Do you think
that it would be group think to imagine that it might be offensive to a
good
percentage of the people in the room? Let's say it's a room full of
lawyers.


Sorry, Jon, can't respond. I can't derive any meaning from the above
stream
of words other than that you're angry.




Capt.Mooron February 6th 06 10:36 PM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Which silly efforts are those? Being aware of those around you? Being
aware that words can be like daggers? Being aware that it's a slippery
slope between what a few people start out saying and things like what
happened in the early part of the previous century?


Jon... you're a homosexual!

Ganz... You're GAY!

Jon... you're Effeminate!

Ganz... you type with a Lisp!

CM



Capt.Mooron February 6th 06 10:38 PM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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So, Dave, you're saying that when you say something like jewing down
someone, this has no negative connotation beyond sight of either coast?


Heh Ganzy... think you'd get a better deal from a Jew.... a Leb.... or a
Jap?

CM



Capt. JG February 6th 06 10:38 PM

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Once again, you didn't include the context. Here it is again. I'm being very
specific. Feel free to comment intelligently if possible.

Being aware that it's a slippery slope between what a few people start out
saying and things like what
happened in the early part of the previous century?



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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:48:42 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

it's a slippery slope


"Slippery slope"; "camel's nose under the tent"; "give 'em an inch and
they'll take a mile""--these are the kinds of arguments one hears from
those
whose arguments as to the matter under discussion have become
insupportable.




Capt. JG February 6th 06 10:39 PM

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So you don't know. Got it. Seems like you're skin is getting thinner with
every post.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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Sigh.....as I've said before, some folks just don't understand irony.

On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 13:13:04 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:


And, you know this how?

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"Dave" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 09:37:42 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

I'd stop using it, at least in
their presence.

LOL. IOW, it's fine to tell Pollack jokes so long as there are no
Pollacks
around.




Capt. JG February 6th 06 10:40 PM

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Oh I get it. You would rather play games than actually answer an intelligent
question. Got it!

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 13:15:10 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

I'm sure you can't. Not my fault.


Ah, so you're not the author...merely acting as scribe to record the words
of a higher authority.




Capt. JG February 6th 06 10:40 PM

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Seem pretty appropriate to me. But, of course, I'm actually thinking about
it.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 14:34:39 -0500, katy

said:

Callousness destroys and leads to usage of slang
and jingoism that affronts and destroys.


Jingoism?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingoism


Yes, I well know the meaning of the term. That's why I questioned your use
of it, which seems entirely inappropriate in context.




Capt. JG February 6th 06 10:43 PM

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Hey Moorony, I think I'd get a better deal from someone who isn't very
savvy...

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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So, Dave, you're saying that when you say something like jewing down
someone, this has no negative connotation beyond sight of either coast?


Heh Ganzy... think you'd get a better deal from a Jew.... a Leb.... or a
Jap?

CM





Capt. JG February 6th 06 10:44 PM

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Mooron, you're really quite pathetic. Perhaps you can get some kind of
medication to help. You should consider it, since you're really just hurting
yourself.

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Which silly efforts are those? Being aware of those around you? Being
aware that words can be like daggers? Being aware that it's a slippery
slope between what a few people start out saying and things like what
happened in the early part of the previous century?


Jon... you're a homosexual!

Ganz... You're GAY!

Jon... you're Effeminate!

Ganz... you type with a Lisp!

CM




Maxprop February 6th 06 10:54 PM

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"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
That's what I thought... well, gypsies are fair game. :-)

Excuse me????


Selective liberalism.

Max



Capt. JG February 6th 06 11:54 PM

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Directed liberalism. Give me a break.

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
That's what I thought... well, gypsies are fair game. :-)

Excuse me????


Selective liberalism.

Max




Capt. JG February 6th 06 11:55 PM

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Yeah, I mean come on Max. You know I'm really a conservative!

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:54:43 GMT, "Maxprop" said:

Selective liberalism.


What, from Jon? Surely you jest.




Capt. JG February 6th 06 11:56 PM

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I'm sure you don't, since I'm actually thinking; whereas, you...

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 14:40:33 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

Seem pretty appropriate to me.


Unfortunately, I don't find that a very weighty endorsement.




Vito February 7th 06 05:38 PM

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"Capt. JG" wrote ...
.... Do you think
that it would be group think to imagine that it might be offensive to a good
percentage of the people in the room? Let's say it's a room full of lawyers.


Absolutely!




Vito February 7th 06 06:47 PM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
It proves you're not too smart. Gyp is ambigous at best. If someone told me
as an adult that it was offensive to them, I'd stop using it, at least in
their presence. You're incapable of doing that, so therefore you must not be
an adult or you're not to bright. You pick.


Sorry but, being far smarter an better educated than you, I am not bound to pick
from your definitions. Gyp is only ambiguous to you because you are ignorant of
its roots. With a broad vocabulary at my call I'm not incapable of choosing
alternative words, but I may choose not to favor some fools pavlovian reponse to
them.



Vito February 7th 06 06:54 PM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Another example of someone who can't or won't think.


So you claim that the majority of people are PC pukes an generation X weirdos?
Within you own limite sphere you may be right. You really otta get out of NYC
once in a while and see America.




Vito February 7th 06 06:55 PM

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"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Vito" wrote in message

Why can't Italians drown?


cause oil and water don't mix?

That too ...



Vito February 7th 06 07:03 PM

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"Capt. JG" wrote
called him a f*cking kike, saying he really jewed me down.


Bwahahaha! Now I'm offended. Everybody knows that 'f*cking' precedes 'Italian'
not 'kike'. Cousin Louie thot he was a well known lover because everybody
called him f*king ginny and f*king wop. Now "kikes" are usurping our
reputations. Dreadful .....



Vito February 7th 06 07:05 PM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Please explain the purpose of the "ah, errr" - what does this imply about
you I wonder.


Easy - it implies that I don't know what the currently acceptable PC phrase is
among y'all wosies.



Vito February 7th 06 07:08 PM

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"Capt. JG" wrote .
Which silly efforts are those? Being aware of those around you? Being aware
that words can be like daggers? Being aware that it's a slippery slope
between what a few people start out saying and things like what happened in
the early part of the previous century?


On the contrary, your protestations over words tell me you have never been
exposed to real threats, let alone daggers, and have to invent imagined ones out
of "words" to boost your immature ego.



Vito February 7th 06 07:14 PM

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"Capt. JG" wrote...
Please show me where I told you to stop. You know nothing about me, so the
rest of your post is, of course, crap.

Oh, but everybody here knows all about you.



Vito February 7th 06 07:18 PM

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"Capt. JG" wrote

Bob was involved in the conversation?


Sorry, I forgot that schitzos really believe they are seperate people.

You're deluded. The phrase has nothing to do with haggling abilities or
tendencies. The phrase has everything to do with putting down a class of
people.


Only in a sick mind



Capt.Mooron February 7th 06 07:40 PM

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"Vito" wrote in message
...
"Capt. JG" wrote .
Which silly efforts are those? Being aware of those around you? Being
aware
that words can be like daggers? Being aware that it's a slippery slope
between what a few people start out saying and things like what happened
in
the early part of the previous century?


On the contrary, your protestations over words tell me you have never been
exposed to real threats, let alone daggers, and have to invent imagined
ones out
of "words" to boost your immature ego.


It's obvious that Ganz is a pasty faced, effeminate, cream puff with no
experience at all regarding masculine pursuits.... he's probably
intimidated by males in general and only feels safe when in the presence of
mature women. This is why Jon is so fricken whiny. It also explains why he
only feels secure engaging in diatribe with real males on NGs... yet is
incapable of venturing beyond mamby pamby insults you'd expect from a 12
year old. Ganz is a feeble coward and a Momma's boy..... a scrawny, 98lb
weakling with no redeeming qualities. He's the school yard tattle tale and
accustomed to being despised by other males. He has no masculine traits,
ethics or morals.... and absolutely no sense of honour or duty.

In a group of males... he would be forced to assume the subordinate
position. I think he's comfortable with that... which makes it all that much
more deplorable.

This is what makes Ganz so GAY!!!

CM



SUZY February 7th 06 07:57 PM

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CM...again the wrong answer from the frozen artic tundra.

The proper PC statement would be "I used Afro American Engineering"

I have black nergo friends.

SB
35s5
NY


Capt.Mooron February 7th 06 08:04 PM

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"SUZY" wrote in message
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CM...again the wrong answer from the frozen artic tundra.

The proper PC statement would be "I used Afro American Engineering"

I have black nergo friends.


Wow..... I have black relatives! Lots of them!!!
[...and none of them refer to themselves as Afro-American or Afro-Canadian
or Afro anything else for that matter.]

CM



SUZY February 7th 06 08:05 PM

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Wow your real smart!

SB
35s5
NY


Jonathan Ganz February 7th 06 08:22 PM

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In article ,
Vito wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
It proves you're not too smart. Gyp is ambigous at best. If someone told me
as an adult that it was offensive to them, I'd stop using it, at least in
their presence. You're incapable of doing that, so therefore you must not be
an adult or you're not to bright. You pick.


Sorry but, being far smarter an better educated than you, I am not bound to pick
from your definitions. Gyp is only ambiguous to you because you are ignorant of
its roots. With a broad vocabulary at my call I'm not incapable of choosing
alternative words, but I may choose not to favor some fools pavlovian reponse to
them.


Try proving you're better educated and smarter than I. Go for it. So
far, you sound like a buffoon by trying to defend using the phrase
jewing down.


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Jonathan Ganz February 7th 06 08:23 PM

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In article ,
Vito wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote...
Please show me where I told you to stop. You know nothing about me, so the
rest of your post is, of course, crap.

Oh, but everybody here knows all about you.


You really are ignorant aren't you. I apologize for antagonizing
someone with such a clear deficit.



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Jonathan Ganz February 7th 06 08:24 PM

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In article ,
Vito wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote .
Which silly efforts are those? Being aware of those around you? Being aware
that words can be like daggers? Being aware that it's a slippery slope
between what a few people start out saying and things like what happened in
the early part of the previous century?


On the contrary, your protestations over words tell me you have never been
exposed to real threats, let alone daggers, and have to invent imagined ones out
of "words" to boost your immature ego.


Next time, don't listen to the voices.


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Jonathan Ganz February 7th 06 08:25 PM

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In article SI6Gf.180798$6K2.156475@edtnps90,
Capt.Mooron wrote:
It's obvious that Ganz is a pasty faced, effeminate, cream puff with no
experience at all regarding masculine pursuits.... he's probably
intimidated by males in general and only feels safe when in the presence of
mature women. This is why Jon is so fricken whiny. It also explains why he
only feels secure engaging in diatribe with real males on NGs... yet is
incapable of venturing beyond mamby pamby insults you'd expect from a 12
year old. Ganz is a feeble coward and a Momma's boy..... a scrawny, 98lb
weakling with no redeeming qualities. He's the school yard tattle tale and
accustomed to being despised by other males. He has no masculine traits,
ethics or morals.... and absolutely no sense of honour or duty.

In a group of males... he would be forced to assume the subordinate
position. I think he's comfortable with that... which makes it all that much
more deplorable.

This is what makes Ganz so GAY!!!

CM



Poor Mooron just can't help himself... very sad. Really, seriously
Mooron... you need help.


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Jonathan Ganz February 7th 06 08:27 PM

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In article ,
Vito wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Another example of someone who can't or won't think.


So you claim that the majority of people are PC pukes an generation X weirdos?
Within you own limite sphere you may be right. You really otta get out of NYC
once in a while and see America.


Bzzzz.. hate to tell you, but I live in California. Please take a
break Vito. You're really starting to look foolish.



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Jonathan Ganz February 7th 06 08:30 PM

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In article j37Gf.180807$6K2.151457@edtnps90,
Capt.Mooron wrote:

"SUZY" wrote in message
roups.com...
CM...again the wrong answer from the frozen artic tundra.

The proper PC statement would be "I used Afro American Engineering"

I have black nergo friends.


Wow..... I have black relatives! Lots of them!!!
[...and none of them refer to themselves as Afro-American or Afro-Canadian
or Afro anything else for that matter.]

CM


$10 Canadian you don't refer to them as nergos.

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Capt.Mooron February 7th 06 08:58 PM

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Try proving you're better educated and smarter than I. Go for it. So
far, you sound like a buffoon by trying to defend using the phrase
jewing down.


Simplicity Ganz..... you have no choice regarding your race [or in your
case your homosexual orientation]... but plenty regarding your religious
beliefs.

Religions are fair game..... if there was no benefit to being a Jew....
they wouldn't have a membership.

CM



Capt.Mooron February 7th 06 09:11 PM

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

$10 Canadian you don't refer to them as nergos.


Of course not... I refer to them as niece, nephew, brother in law, aunt,
uncle etc

Negro is what they are... as I am Caucasian.Even though they are not 100%
negro, I'm probably not 100% Caucasian.... I'm Belgian... but they are not
African... matter of fact I'm Afro- Belgian..... I was born in the Congo.

Do your relatives refer to you as white or gay?

CM

So refer to me as an Afro- Belgian Canadian......




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