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Log book for eventual USCG 100-ton license
I am still a long ways from being qualified for a USCG 100-ton captain's
license, but I should would like to collect the right information to eventually qualify. I have an accurate log on the computer of every sail I've done since I started 4 years ago. Unfortunately, I do not have signatures because it's a computer log. I'm going to start keeping both a paper and computer log, so I can collect signatures. I'll contact some of the skippers I've sailed with and ask for signatures for past sails. The question is: what EXACTLY should I log? Please don't tell me to look at the requirements online, because I've done that and it's still very vague. Do I need the vessels documentation number? I assume that you do not count any time in rigging a boat as part of the hours/days (in racing, this can be fairly significant)? I've been told that a "day" is four hours. This brings up numerous questions: 1) What if I sail for 3 hours every Wednesday and 3 hours every Saturday for 16 weeks (typical racing schedule). That's a total of 6*16 = 96 hours on the water, spread evenly over 32 separate sailing events, but none of them lasting 4 hours. Is it true that I cannot count any of this time for credit towards a license? 2) What about 28 hours spent on a distance race? How is this counted? One day? Two days? Any tips on what information to collect is appreciated. I have both ASA and US Sailing certs, and I think I'm going to use my US Sailing logbook for the paper log. But it doesn't have fields for documentation number, etc. -Brien |
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Log book for eventual USCG 100-ton license
One last thing, I teach small boat sailing on weekends. Should I even
bother to include time spent on a dinghy, or teaching a class from a small whaler? "Brien Alkire" wrote in message ink.net... I am still a long ways from being qualified for a USCG 100-ton captain's license, but I should would like to collect the right information to eventually qualify. I have an accurate log on the computer of every sail I've done since I started 4 years ago. Unfortunately, I do not have signatures because it's a computer log. I'm going to start keeping both a paper and computer log, so I can collect signatures. I'll contact some of the skippers I've sailed with and ask for signatures for past sails. The question is: what EXACTLY should I log? Please don't tell me to look at the requirements online, because I've done that and it's still very vague. Do I need the vessels documentation number? I assume that you do not count any time in rigging a boat as part of the hours/days (in racing, this can be fairly significant)? I've been told that a "day" is four hours. This brings up numerous questions: 1) What if I sail for 3 hours every Wednesday and 3 hours every Saturday for 16 weeks (typical racing schedule). That's a total of 6*16 = 96 hours on the water, spread evenly over 32 separate sailing events, but none of them lasting 4 hours. Is it true that I cannot count any of this time for credit towards a license? 2) What about 28 hours spent on a distance race? How is this counted? One day? Two days? Any tips on what information to collect is appreciated. I have both ASA and US Sailing certs, and I think I'm going to use my US Sailing logbook for the paper log. But it doesn't have fields for documentation number, etc. -Brien |
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Log book for eventual USCG 100-ton license
Sea Experience:
Master 25/50/100 Ton** Inland - 360 underway days* - 90 days of the 360 must be within the last 3 years. Master 25/50/100 Ton** Near Coastal - 720 underway days* - 360 days of the 720 must be upon near coastal or ocean waters - 90 days of the 720 must be within the last 3 years. * A "day" is considered 4 to 8 hours away from the dock. ** Tonnage will be based on the size vessels you have been operating in the last 3 years. Wait for Jon to answer he just sat for his 100 ton. I know the most days you can get counted for seatime is 1.5 days per day if you can prove your were underway for the 24 hours. If your underway less than 12 hours then it is only counted as one day. Any documented seatime works, unless you get silly and start adding dink time. Joe USMM Master of Freight and towing vessels to 1600 tons (expired) |
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1.5 days is max per day at sea. Days must be 12+ hours underway to
count as 1.5 Anything under 12 but not less than 4 counts as 1 day. Joe USMM Master 1600 Tons Freight and Towing |
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Log book for eventual USCG 100-ton license
Actually, I don't have a 100 ton Masters... OUPV, Near Coastal with sail and
towing. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Sea Experience: Master 25/50/100 Ton** Inland - 360 underway days* - 90 days of the 360 must be within the last 3 years. Master 25/50/100 Ton** Near Coastal - 720 underway days* - 360 days of the 720 must be upon near coastal or ocean waters - 90 days of the 720 must be within the last 3 years. * A "day" is considered 4 to 8 hours away from the dock. ** Tonnage will be based on the size vessels you have been operating in the last 3 years. Wait for Jon to answer he just sat for his 100 ton. I know the most days you can get counted for seatime is 1.5 days per day if you can prove your were underway for the 24 hours. If your underway less than 12 hours then it is only counted as one day. Any documented seatime works, unless you get silly and start adding dink time. Joe USMM Master of Freight and towing vessels to 1600 tons (expired) |
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Log book for eventual USCG 100-ton license
"Brien Alkire" wrote in message
ink.net... I am still a long ways from being qualified for a USCG 100-ton captain's license, but I should would like to collect the right information to eventually qualify. I have an accurate log on the computer of every sail I've done since I started 4 years ago. Unfortunately, I do not have signatures because it's a computer log. Bummer... because it won't count unless it's on your boat or you can get the owners to sign off on the hours. I'm going to start keeping both a paper and computer log, so I can collect signatures. I'll contact some of the skippers I've sailed with and ask for signatures for past sails. Good idea. The website has downloadable sea time forms. You can fill them out, and then have the owners, sign, date, fill in tonnage, numbers, etc. The question is: what EXACTLY should I log? Please don't tell me to look at the requirements online, because I've done that and it's still very vague. You need to log the individual days. You don't need to log the hours, specifically, but what Joe said is accurate as far as how much counts for what. Do I need the vessels documentation number? If it's on the form, you need it. FYI, you can always talk to the Chief who administers the licensing. They're very helpful, but you do need to talk to the Chief, not necessarily the person who answers the phone. I assume that you do not count any time in rigging a boat as part of the hours/days (in racing, this can be fairly significant)? I've never consider that either way. I figured time I stepped on the boat to time I stepped off the boat. I've been told that a "day" is four hours. This brings up numerous questions: 1) What if I sail for 3 hours every Wednesday and 3 hours every Saturday for 16 weeks (typical racing schedule). That's a total of 6*16 = 96 hours on the water, spread evenly over 32 separate sailing events, but none of them lasting 4 hours. Is it true that I cannot count any of this time for credit towards a license? True. It's up to you to be honest, and if you cheat and get caught the consequences are rather severe. Mainly the CG looks for reasonable sea time, given your situation. Keep that in mind when claiming time. 2) What about 28 hours spent on a distance race? How is this counted? One day? Two days? See Joe's response. Any tips on what information to collect is appreciated. I have both ASA and US Sailing certs, and I think I'm going to use my US Sailing logbook for the paper log. But it doesn't have fields for documentation number, etc. One last thing, I teach small boat sailing on weekends. Should I even bother to include time spent on a dinghy, or teaching a class from a small whaler? YES! You have to have the owner or operator of the school document your time as previously stated. It can add up... |
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Thanks to everyone for the helpful responses. I think I have a much better
idea of what's needed, and now the information online will probably make more sense to me. I'm in no hurry, and will do it right. |
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The best way a young man can build serious sea time and see the world
is to join the US Navy. Go to ABC school, or perhaps enter the Navy academy in Annapolis, they have some excellent ship handling courses. If your scared of the open sea you could join the USCG... they have a nice sailing training ship called the Eagle. Military time at sea is the only way to get 2 full days seatime for every day at sea. Joe |
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Opps seems I'm getting old. No such thing as ABC (Amphibious Boat
Coxian) any more. Seems it's now called SWCC(special warfare combat crew) still on Coronada island. Like it's special or sumpthin? Joe |
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