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Brien Alkire January 7th 06 01:22 AM

Log book for eventual USCG 100-ton license
 
I am still a long ways from being qualified for a USCG 100-ton captain's
license, but I should would like to collect the right information to
eventually qualify.

I have an accurate log on the computer of every sail I've done since I
started 4 years ago. Unfortunately, I do not have signatures because it's a
computer log.

I'm going to start keeping both a paper and computer log, so I can collect
signatures. I'll contact some of the skippers I've sailed with and ask for
signatures for past sails.

The question is: what EXACTLY should I log? Please don't tell me to look
at the requirements online, because I've done that and it's still very
vague.

Do I need the vessels documentation number?

I assume that you do not count any time in rigging a boat as part of the
hours/days (in racing, this can be fairly significant)?

I've been told that a "day" is four hours. This brings up numerous
questions:

1) What if I sail for 3 hours every Wednesday and 3 hours every Saturday
for 16 weeks (typical racing schedule). That's a total of 6*16 = 96 hours
on the water, spread evenly over 32 separate sailing events, but none of
them lasting 4 hours. Is it true that I cannot count any of this time for
credit towards a license?

2) What about 28 hours spent on a distance race? How is this counted? One
day? Two days?

Any tips on what information to collect is appreciated. I have both ASA and
US Sailing certs, and I think I'm going to use my US Sailing logbook for the
paper log. But it doesn't have fields for documentation number, etc.

-Brien



Brien Alkire January 7th 06 01:31 AM

Log book for eventual USCG 100-ton license
 
One last thing, I teach small boat sailing on weekends. Should I even
bother to include time spent on a dinghy, or teaching a class from a small
whaler?


"Brien Alkire" wrote in message
ink.net...
I am still a long ways from being qualified for a USCG 100-ton captain's
license, but I should would like to collect the right information to
eventually qualify.

I have an accurate log on the computer of every sail I've done since I
started 4 years ago. Unfortunately, I do not have signatures because it's

a
computer log.

I'm going to start keeping both a paper and computer log, so I can collect
signatures. I'll contact some of the skippers I've sailed with and ask

for
signatures for past sails.

The question is: what EXACTLY should I log? Please don't tell me to look
at the requirements online, because I've done that and it's still very
vague.

Do I need the vessels documentation number?

I assume that you do not count any time in rigging a boat as part of the
hours/days (in racing, this can be fairly significant)?

I've been told that a "day" is four hours. This brings up numerous
questions:

1) What if I sail for 3 hours every Wednesday and 3 hours every Saturday
for 16 weeks (typical racing schedule). That's a total of 6*16 = 96 hours
on the water, spread evenly over 32 separate sailing events, but none of
them lasting 4 hours. Is it true that I cannot count any of this time for
credit towards a license?

2) What about 28 hours spent on a distance race? How is this counted?

One
day? Two days?

Any tips on what information to collect is appreciated. I have both ASA

and
US Sailing certs, and I think I'm going to use my US Sailing logbook for

the
paper log. But it doesn't have fields for documentation number, etc.

-Brien





Joe January 7th 06 01:41 AM

Log book for eventual USCG 100-ton license
 
Sea Experience:
Master 25/50/100 Ton** Inland
- 360 underway days*
- 90 days of the 360 must be within the last 3 years.

Master 25/50/100 Ton** Near Coastal
- 720 underway days*
- 360 days of the 720 must be upon near coastal or ocean waters
- 90 days of the 720 must be within the last 3 years.

* A "day" is considered 4 to 8 hours away from the dock.
** Tonnage will be based on the size vessels you have been operating in
the last 3 years.

Wait for Jon to answer he just sat for his 100 ton.

I know the most days you can get counted for seatime is 1.5 days per
day if you can prove your were underway for the 24 hours. If your
underway less than 12 hours then it is only counted as one day.

Any documented seatime works, unless you get silly and start adding
dink time.

Joe
USMM Master of Freight and towing vessels to 1600 tons (expired)


Joe January 7th 06 01:53 AM

Log book for eventual USCG 100-ton license
 
1.5 days is max per day at sea. Days must be 12+ hours underway to
count as 1.5 Anything under 12 but not less than 4 counts as 1 day.

Joe
USMM Master 1600 Tons Freight and Towing


Capt. JG January 9th 06 01:36 AM

Log book for eventual USCG 100-ton license
 
Actually, I don't have a 100 ton Masters... OUPV, Near Coastal with sail and
towing.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Sea Experience:
Master 25/50/100 Ton** Inland
- 360 underway days*
- 90 days of the 360 must be within the last 3 years.

Master 25/50/100 Ton** Near Coastal
- 720 underway days*
- 360 days of the 720 must be upon near coastal or ocean waters
- 90 days of the 720 must be within the last 3 years.

* A "day" is considered 4 to 8 hours away from the dock.
** Tonnage will be based on the size vessels you have been operating in
the last 3 years.

Wait for Jon to answer he just sat for his 100 ton.

I know the most days you can get counted for seatime is 1.5 days per
day if you can prove your were underway for the 24 hours. If your
underway less than 12 hours then it is only counted as one day.

Any documented seatime works, unless you get silly and start adding
dink time.

Joe
USMM Master of Freight and towing vessels to 1600 tons (expired)




Capt. JG January 9th 06 01:44 AM

Log book for eventual USCG 100-ton license
 
"Brien Alkire" wrote in message
ink.net...
I am still a long ways from being qualified for a USCG 100-ton captain's
license, but I should would like to collect the right information to
eventually qualify.

I have an accurate log on the computer of every sail I've done since I
started 4 years ago. Unfortunately, I do not have signatures because it's
a
computer log.


Bummer... because it won't count unless it's on your boat or you can get the
owners to sign off on the hours.

I'm going to start keeping both a paper and computer log, so I can collect
signatures. I'll contact some of the skippers I've sailed with and ask
for
signatures for past sails.


Good idea. The website has downloadable sea time forms. You can fill them
out, and then have the owners, sign, date, fill in tonnage, numbers, etc.

The question is: what EXACTLY should I log? Please don't tell me to look
at the requirements online, because I've done that and it's still very
vague.


You need to log the individual days. You don't need to log the hours,
specifically, but what Joe said is accurate as far as how much counts for
what.

Do I need the vessels documentation number?


If it's on the form, you need it.

FYI, you can always talk to the Chief who administers the licensing. They're
very helpful, but you do need to talk to the Chief, not necessarily the
person who answers the phone.

I assume that you do not count any time in rigging a boat as part of the
hours/days (in racing, this can be fairly significant)?


I've never consider that either way. I figured time I stepped on the boat to
time I stepped off the boat.

I've been told that a "day" is four hours. This brings up numerous
questions:

1) What if I sail for 3 hours every Wednesday and 3 hours every Saturday
for 16 weeks (typical racing schedule). That's a total of 6*16 = 96 hours
on the water, spread evenly over 32 separate sailing events, but none of
them lasting 4 hours. Is it true that I cannot count any of this time for
credit towards a license?


True. It's up to you to be honest, and if you cheat and get caught the
consequences are rather severe. Mainly the CG looks for reasonable sea time,
given your situation. Keep that in mind when claiming time.


2) What about 28 hours spent on a distance race? How is this counted?
One
day? Two days?


See Joe's response.

Any tips on what information to collect is appreciated. I have both ASA
and
US Sailing certs, and I think I'm going to use my US Sailing logbook for
the
paper log. But it doesn't have fields for documentation number, etc.


One last thing, I teach small boat sailing on weekends. Should I even
bother to include time spent on a dinghy, or teaching a class from a small
whaler?


YES! You have to have the owner or operator of the school document your time
as previously stated.
It can add up...




Brien Alkire January 9th 06 06:02 PM

Thanks
 
Thanks to everyone for the helpful responses. I think I have a much better
idea of what's needed, and now the information online will probably make
more sense to me. I'm in no hurry, and will do it right.



Joe January 9th 06 06:22 PM

Thanks
 
The best way a young man can build serious sea time and see the world
is to join the US Navy.

Go to ABC school, or perhaps enter the Navy academy in Annapolis, they
have some excellent ship handling courses. If your scared of the open
sea you could join the USCG... they have a nice sailing training ship
called the Eagle. Military time at sea is the only way to get 2 full
days seatime for every day at sea.

Joe


Joe January 9th 06 06:52 PM

Thanks
 
Opps seems I'm getting old. No such thing as ABC (Amphibious Boat
Coxian) any more. Seems it's now called SWCC(special warfare combat
crew) still on Coronada island.

Like it's special or sumpthin?

Joe



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