Wha? Jap cars less safe than Merican cars? What will comrade
Bubbles say?

Scotty


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...

Hey Nutsy,

I see the Mazda made it into the top Six Least Safe Cars on the
road for
2006. Right behind the two Korean; the Hyundai and KIA. They
were
followed by Nissan, Suzuki and Toyota.

From the: Insurance Institute of Highway Safety and reported by
Forbes

Wha? Jap cars less safe than Merican cars? What will comrade
Bubbles say?


My Subaru is built in the USA. Outback sports are built in Japan. The
Sports are more reliable than the US built models. So we can't even
build a Japanese car in the USA and do it right.

RB
35s5
NY

Must have people here like you on the line making them. Do us all a
favor, make America a better place.... move to Tokyo.

Joe

Must have people here like you on the line making them.


Don't get mad at me, Joe. When this country is able to make a good car
I'll buy one. Toyota is about to surpass GM. I wonder why my old Subaru
with 110K on it had practically no rattles while the new G6 and Hummer
H3 sounded like they were falling apart. Why is my Tribeca so much more
solid feeling than a Jeep? No go drive a silly Harley. We can't even
build a good bike here.
Of course the rest of the world is laughing.

RB
35s5
NY

Putz, It's the cost that keep Americans from buying new American made
cars.

Did you know GM spends more on employee pensions then they do on steel?

Just think if we had a level playing field with the Japs. We could buy
a new corvette for 16K, and put 100's of millions more into R&D.

Not to mention that the japanese govt still refuses to even admit that
as a nation they committed mass murder and torture of American's
prisioners during WW11 and refuse to apoligise.

****...if Al-Quedia made a better car today, you would buy it from
them.

Funny thing is your still driving the biggest Vagina looking slushbox
unsafe Dork mobile on the road.

Joe

It is truly American to buy the best product available for your money,
regardless of where it came from. That's capitalism and freedom!

Anything else is tribalistic jingoism.

Amen!

Bob Crantz wrote:
It is truly American to buy the best product available for your money,
regardless of where it came from. That's capitalism and freedom!

Anything else is tribalistic jingoism.

Amen!


Here, here.

"The people who consume the bulk of goods are the (same) people who
make them. That is a fact we must never forget - that is the secret of
our prosperity." -- Henry Ford

It is truly American to buy the best product available for your money,
regardless of where it came from.


No, in Joe's world we should all buy US made garbage cars because they
don't have a level playing field!

RB
35s5
NY

On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:27:06 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
wrote:

It is truly American to buy the best product available for your money,
regardless of where it came from. That's capitalism and freedom!

Anything else is tribalistic jingoism.

Amen!

Agreed.

As one who ran manufacturing operations and is now unemployed as a
result of globalizaition, I have strong feelings on the subject.

Open competition is good. The consumer should be given a choice
between quality and cost and determine what value means to him.
Problem is, todays CEO's are taking away that choice.

I had the last domestic operation in my industry and the most
repected product. My product cost approximately 15% more than the
competition which was all Chinese and of questionable quality. My
business was growing because many continued to make the choice for
quality. Corporate decision to consolidate my location and outsource
about 70 percent of my business to China shut me down. It was pure
greed coupled with junior achievement management. I was making money
and growing but it is like the goose that was laying the golden egg.
Lets kill the goose and see where the gold is.

The results of this brilliant strategy. Sales are lower, profits are
lower, that reputation that had been maintained for 75 years is fading
at a rapid pace, 350 good people are out of work, the consumer of the
product has no choice but to accept poor quality because that is all
there is. The Chinese in this type of manufacture use processes that
were used in the '40s and '50s in the U. S. Batch manufacturing with
lots of set up breaks going from one junk machine to another. Casting
processes with individuals compacting sand by stomping on it in the
molds.

The brilliant strategists - when it became apparent what they had
done, sold the group and are still there to wreak havoc again.

The Japanese car makers competed honestly, basing their process on
Demming's, an American, system of statistical process control. Demming
went to the U. S. companies first and got laughed out of their
offices.Today, most U. S. Companies have adopted similar systems.
The Japs forced this and that was a good thing. U. S. cars are better
by far today than they were 25 years ago. The Chinese are bringing
nothing to the table but indentured servitude labor. A communist
Country that only takes care of the rich brokers who get the advantage
of that cheap labor.

My $.02 worth

Frank