Is that difficult or something?


Capt.Mooron wrote:
To some posting here Doug... it would be impossible.


yep.

Depends very much on the boat and the situation. I can picture some
conditions where I would set a kedge, which is sort of cheating.


Well, good. The next step is to get a tippy hi-performance dinghy and
learn to sail it without embarassment. If you value heavy weather skills,
an afternoon of sailing a 14' crew-ballasted centerboarder in 20 knots
will teach you more than years of sailing a heavy 30 footer in much
stronger winds.


Oh Okay... I'll run right out and do that... Oh Wait.... I owned a Laser for
5 years

Laser= good

... and a Hobie for a year

You mean a Hobie 16?

... and even got to go out on an International 14
in 20+kts. Now you're talking fast!

They're fun... for the certifiably insane...

.......not this "my boat can do 8 kts
and yours only does 6 kts" crap! Owned and sailed an Optimist even.

In my early teens I got suckered into going out to race Optis in a big
fleet, thinking that it would be kinda fun even if the boat was boxy.
The kids all weighed about 40 ~ 50 lbs less than me... wasn't even
close! Actually it was a fun boat to sail when the the wind got up, but
I quickly learned that being competitive in some classes takes some
definite & undeniable factors....

... Been
Kayak sailing with both the wishbone and kite.


I'd like to try that. How does the kite compare? Is it faster for the
same (or less) sail area? That's what the kiteboarders claim.

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message


Depends very much on the boat and the situation. I can picture some
conditions where I would set a kedge, which is sort of cheating.

No such thing as cheating when on a lee dock with the wind on your beam.....
kedge is the only way you'll get out with the sails up and no damage to the
vessel ahead on the dock. [Well okay.. on my boat anyway.]


I'd like to try that. How does the kite compare? Is it faster for the same
(or less) sail area? That's what the kiteboarders claim.


The kite is awesome.... at times it will lift you clear out of the water.
Kind of a squirrelly ride.... but the adrenaline rush is worth it. The
wishbone sail is no slouch either but it's easier on your balance and
stability. It won't lift you clear of the water but the surfing rocks! Have
you done white water?? Wind Skiing?, Parasail?.....

CM

Capt.Mooron wrote:
No such thing as cheating when on a lee dock with the wind on your beam.....
kedge is the only way you'll get out with the sails up and no damage to the
vessel ahead on the dock. [Well okay.. on my boat anyway.]


In some spots, *any* boat.

One of the crucial skills a skipper must develop is a "no-go" alarm...
the ability to see what is a difficult but possible situation, and what
is impossible. Of course, the more knowledge & skill, the fewer things
are truly impossible.

I've always liked the challenge of sailing centerboarders off a lee
shore beach. Once we stopped for a picnic on a muddy shore & I lost a
shoe getting the boat off... I bet that shoe is still there, 3' under
the mud!




I'd like to try that. How does the kite compare? Is it faster for the same
(or less) sail area? That's what the kiteboarders claim.



The kite is awesome.... at times it will lift you clear out of the water.
Kind of a squirrelly ride.... but the adrenaline rush is worth it. The
wishbone sail is no slouch either but it's easier on your balance and
stability. It won't lift you clear of the water but the surfing rocks! Have
you done white water?? Wind Skiing?, Parasail?.....

Just plain vanilla wind surfing and white water canoing. You can get
airborn on an old wind surfer too, if you play your cards just right.
But you can't go soaring off into the sky.

DSK

In article , DSK
wrote:

Capt.Mooron wrote:
No such thing as cheating when on a lee dock with the wind on your
beam.....
kedge is the only way you'll get out with the sails up and no damage to the
vessel ahead on the dock. [Well okay.. on my boat anyway.]


In some spots, *any* boat.

One of the crucial skills a skipper must develop is a "no-go" alarm...
the ability to see what is a difficult but possible situation, and what
is impossible. Of course, the more knowledge & skill, the fewer things
are truly impossible.

I've always liked the challenge of sailing centerboarders off a lee
shore beach. Once we stopped for a picnic on a muddy shore & I lost a
shoe getting the boat off... I bet that shoe is still there, 3' under
the mud!

That is a right PITA - I do it all too frequently.

PDW