In article , Scotty
wrote:

"Lady Pilot" wrote

Shame on you CM.

Shame on you, Scotty.

That was a dig at Mooron. He still has a sense of humour.

So you take the side of snitches like Ganz

better to be aside of , rather than in front of JG.


and katysails?


Well, IF I have to choose sides, as one does in a playground brawl,
yes, Katy's been a friend for a long time.

Ditto.

Neal crossed 'the line'
with his vulgar posts. He was TRYING to get reported. And BTW, KFing
does no good.

Yeah, it does.


I actually thought you had more honor.

Nope, not me.

Hey, this is *usenet*, FCS! Honor???????

My mistake! I guess you
would turn in your neighbor or fellow sailor for smoking a doobie?

Only if they bogarted me.

That's typical LP bull****, anyway. More like, would you turn in your
neighbour for dumping a huge amount of **** in the road where everyone
could see it, and plastering your name & address all over it?

You turkeys started it by forging posts purporting to come from Katy.
You got what you deserved. Soon you'll be in so many killfiles here
that your virtual existence will be over. Katy will still be here.

LP, you're a loser. It's obvious you can't handle any sort of one to
one contest.

PDW

Peter Wiley wrote:
That's typical LP bull****, anyway. More like, would you turn in your
neighbour for dumping a huge amount of **** in the road where everyone
could see it, and plastering your name & address all over it?

You turkeys started it by forging posts purporting to come from Katy.
You got what you deserved. Soon you'll be in so many killfiles here
that your virtual existence will be over. Katy will still be here.

Who's LP?

--
Flying Tadpole

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

Ummm, Moron - the postings Thom was referring to were those repetitive,
boring, content-free ones lacking it life, wit, humour or any trace of
originality whereby you just called Jon a HOMO for post after boring
post after boring post after boring post after ......
ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz

Heh.. Look... Ganz had been at it for months. I fiqured it was time he was
subjected to the same bland repetative regieme. I admit... and stated as
much that it was like playing "Whack the Gopher" at a fair.... only
difference being the gopher was frothing more each time it popped up. I had
no problem with it since I was not employed at the time and had sufficent
time on my hands to persue this objective. I posted sailing related content
as well as some replies to off topic threads during that time. Look Peter...
when I am not interested in following a prolonged disscussion between Doug
and Dave of investments and social security ... I just select and delete the
thread.... or ignore their posts.

Thom could have employed a killfile as could everyone else. I suggested it
to anyone that had a concern. You have, as explained... several options at
your disposal... a kill file or the choice of ignoring the post and the
option of reply. I even assured that I would include a word in every reply
to Jon that could have been entered in a kill file message "if content
contains" for those of which cared to follow my other posts while avoiding
my trouncing of Ganz.

My primary objection is that this involved nobody but Ganz and myself. Thom
decided to involve himself of his own free will. Not only did he take the
liberty and attitude that his opinion was of merit to me or not... he
attacked me in the process. Now he seems surprised that I've taken this in a
negative manner????

Don't take it as an attempt to be your conscience. Take it as a
critique on style.

Critique on style ? I admitted no "style" was involved in those posts....
on many occasions. I consider advice but I question direction. I do not
consider mutual respect to be asking too much. Had I attacked Thom as Ganz
had on several occassions ... then I could have understood his actions. Thom
seems to have the mistaken belief that he is the adjudicator of disputes and
enforcer of posting content.
As it is... I have made it clear to Thom that his manner of appraoch has
clarified his opinion of me. I owe him no consideration nor compliance.
Respect is earned and age does not give carte blanche to such
considerations.

Think about it... if Thom had approached me as you have here... I would have
been much more receptive to his concerns....

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
No. Excellent post. Get with it Donal.


Jonathan,

Wally posted a well balanced view of the situation.

OTOH, it seems possible that you have indeed made a complaint to Neal's ISP.

I abhor such conduct. I *really* abhor such conduct.

I think that you need to learn the difference between "abuse OF the
internet"(illegal) and "abuse ON the Internet" (legal).

If somebody calls you a "Homo" then you just have to deal with it. It isn't
a big deal. It doesn't mean that you have to run to "teacher" screaming
"Please Miss, Please Miss!".


If you want to know how a real heterosexual man deals with accusations of
homosexuality then why don't you accuse me of being a Homo? I'll be quite
happy to give you a demonstration of how you should behave when confronted
with false allegations.



Regards


Donal
--

"Donal" wrote in message ...

"JG" wrote in message
...
No. Excellent post. Get with it Donal.


Jonathan,

Wally posted a well balanced view of the situation.

OTOH, it seems possible that you have indeed made a complaint to Neal's ISP.

I abhor such conduct. I *really* abhor such conduct.

I think that you need to learn the difference between "abuse OF the
internet"(illegal) and "abuse ON the Internet" (legal).

If somebody calls you a "Homo" then you just have to deal with it. It isn't
a big deal. It doesn't mean that you have to run to "teacher" screaming
"Please Miss, Please Miss!".


If you want to know how a real heterosexual man deals with accusations of
homosexuality then why don't you accuse me of being a Homo? I'll be quite
happy to give you a demonstration of how you should behave when confronted
with false allegations.



Regards


Donal

Donal,

Ganz did, indeed, netcop me. He has done so several times in the past as well.
Both Ganz and Haight have done so. Katy admitted it here and I can send you
confidential proof that Ganz has done so. I even posted one of his netKKKop
e-mails from a previous ISP here several years ago. It can probably still be
found in the archives at Google.

Thanks for realizing the seriousness of any attempt to deny another
individual's rights to free speech.

CN

You continually say that I'm "foaming at the mouth," but you're the one who
just can't, absolutely can't, let it drop. Seems like that's pretty
indictative of personality problems.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:OvV3e.166159$fc4.13772@edtnps89...

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

Ummm, Moron - the postings Thom was referring to were those repetitive,
boring, content-free ones lacking it life, wit, humour or any trace of
originality whereby you just called Jon a HOMO for post after boring
post after boring post after boring post after ......
ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz

Heh.. Look... Ganz had been at it for months. I fiqured it was time he was
subjected to the same bland repetative regieme. I admit... and stated as
much that it was like playing "Whack the Gopher" at a fair.... only
difference being the gopher was frothing more each time it popped up. I
had no problem with it since I was not employed at the time and had
sufficent time on my hands to persue this objective. I posted sailing
related content as well as some replies to off topic threads during that
time. Look Peter... when I am not interested in following a prolonged
disscussion between Doug and Dave of investments and social security ... I
just select and delete the thread.... or ignore their posts.

Thom could have employed a killfile as could everyone else. I suggested it
to anyone that had a concern. You have, as explained... several options at
your disposal... a kill file or the choice of ignoring the post and the
option of reply. I even assured that I would include a word in every reply
to Jon that could have been entered in a kill file message "if content
contains" for those of which cared to follow my other posts while avoiding
my trouncing of Ganz.

My primary objection is that this involved nobody but Ganz and myself.
Thom decided to involve himself of his own free will. Not only did he take
the liberty and attitude that his opinion was of merit to me or not... he
attacked me in the process. Now he seems surprised that I've taken this in
a negative manner????

Don't take it as an attempt to be your conscience. Take it as a
critique on style.

Critique on style ? I admitted no "style" was involved in those posts....
on many occasions. I consider advice but I question direction. I do not
consider mutual respect to be asking too much. Had I attacked Thom as Ganz
had on several occassions ... then I could have understood his actions.
Thom seems to have the mistaken belief that he is the adjudicator of
disputes and enforcer of posting content.
As it is... I have made it clear to Thom that his manner of appraoch has
clarified his opinion of me. I owe him no consideration nor compliance.
Respect is earned and age does not give carte blanche to such
considerations.

Think about it... if Thom had approached me as you have here... I would
have been much more receptive to his concerns....

CM

"JG" wrote in message ...
You continually say that I'm "foaming at the mouth," but you're the one who
just can't, absolutely can't, let it drop. Seems like that's pretty
indictative of personality problems.


A proven netKKKop speaks on the subject of personality problems.

Oh, my aching sides!

CN

Donal,

Of course it's "possible." However, I will neither confirm nor deny it. So,
you're left with either believing Neal, who is a known liar or with
accepting the fact that you'll never know for sure. Assuming for a moment
that I did actually contact his ISP (and we're not talking recently here),
then is it possible for you to imagine a situation that would make it ok to
do so... I mean beyond reacting to his foul language and odd views of the
world? What would be an acceptable reason in your view for protesting to an
ISP? Neal seems to have no problem supposedly bragging about reporting me to
supernews. I don't see you decrying that. Why the double standard,
especially w.r.t. Neal?

I will say this about that... :-) For someone to call me a homo is not an
issue that would cause me to "report someone to his ISP." I'm sure it would
be viewed as a stupid complaint with no merit, since filtering is available.
And, in fact, I have filtered Neal pretty effectively. The only time I see
his posts are when someone copies them in theirs.

You've claimed in the past that I had no sense of humor and yet it seems you
don't. Wally's post was right on. You said it was a good post and a chided
you by saying that it was a great post. Obviously, you're humor impaired not
to see the humor in that.

I'm truly sorry for you.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"JG" wrote in message
...
No. Excellent post. Get with it Donal.


Jonathan,

Wally posted a well balanced view of the situation.

OTOH, it seems possible that you have indeed made a complaint to Neal's
ISP.

I abhor such conduct. I *really* abhor such conduct.

I think that you need to learn the difference between "abuse OF the
internet"(illegal) and "abuse ON the Internet" (legal).

If somebody calls you a "Homo" then you just have to deal with it. It
isn't
a big deal. It doesn't mean that you have to run to "teacher" screaming
"Please Miss, Please Miss!".


If you want to know how a real heterosexual man deals with accusations of
homosexuality then why don't you accuse me of being a Homo? I'll be
quite
happy to give you a demonstration of how you should behave when confronted
with false allegations.



Regards


Donal
--

"JG" wrote in message ...
Donal,

Of course it's "possible." However, I will neither confirm nor deny it. So,
you're left with either believing Neal, who is a known liar or with
accepting the fact that you'll never know for sure.

Never know for sure? lol

What about believing Gary Burnore who wrote about Ganz's netcop
abuse complaints, and I quote, "He's made several. Four to be exact.
The first one was laughed at. The rest ignored."

CN



Assuming for a moment
that I did actually contact his ISP (and we're not talking recently here),
then is it possible for you to imagine a situation that would make it ok to
do so... I mean beyond reacting to his foul language and odd views of the
world? What would be an acceptable reason in your view for protesting to an
ISP? Neal seems to have no problem supposedly bragging about reporting me to
supernews. I don't see you decrying that. Why the double standard,
especially w.r.t. Neal?

I will say this about that... :-) For someone to call me a homo is not an
issue that would cause me to "report someone to his ISP." I'm sure it would
be viewed as a stupid complaint with no merit, since filtering is available.
And, in fact, I have filtered Neal pretty effectively. The only time I see
his posts are when someone copies them in theirs.

You've claimed in the past that I had no sense of humor and yet it seems you
don't. Wally's post was right on. You said it was a good post and a chided
you by saying that it was a great post. Obviously, you're humor impaired not
to see the humor in that.

I'm truly sorry for you.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"JG" wrote in message
...
No. Excellent post. Get with it Donal.


Jonathan,

Wally posted a well balanced view of the situation.

OTOH, it seems possible that you have indeed made a complaint to Neal's
ISP.

I abhor such conduct. I *really* abhor such conduct.

I think that you need to learn the difference between "abuse OF the
internet"(illegal) and "abuse ON the Internet" (legal).

If somebody calls you a "Homo" then you just have to deal with it. It
isn't
a big deal. It doesn't mean that you have to run to "teacher" screaming
"Please Miss, Please Miss!".


If you want to know how a real heterosexual man deals with accusations of
homosexuality then why don't you accuse me of being a Homo? I'll be
quite
happy to give you a demonstration of how you should behave when confronted
with false allegations.



Regards


Donal
--

"Gary L. Burnore" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 01:37:14 +0100, "Donal"
wrote:


"JG" wrote in message
...
No. Excellent post. Get with it Donal.


Jonathan,

Wally posted a well balanced view of the situation.

OTOH, it seems possible that you have indeed made a complaint to Neal's
ISP.

He's made several. Four to be exact. The first one was laughed at.
The rest ignored.

Heheee! I thought this was *our* little secret, Gary. We could have had
many more if you hadn't spilled the beans, so to speak! ;-)

I'm sure there has just *has* to be more in the morning e-mails. Don't be
late for the morning ceremonies! ;-)

LP






I abhor such conduct. I *really* abhor such conduct.

I think that you need to learn the difference between "abuse OF the
internet"(illegal) and "abuse ON the Internet" (legal).

If somebody calls you a "Homo" then you just have to deal with it. It
isn't
a big deal. It doesn't mean that you have to run to "teacher" screaming
"Please Miss, Please Miss!".


If you want to know how a real heterosexual man deals with accusations of
homosexuality then why don't you accuse me of being a Homo? I'll be
quite
happy to give you a demonstration of how you should behave when confronted
with false allegations.



Regards


Donal

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