"JG" wrote in message
...
Why are you being a jerk? Oh, I know. You have a serious personality
disorder. Sorry.

Jon, I think that you forgot to "confirm or deny" Mooron's allegation.

Personality disorders are a big advantage on ASA.


Isn't it about time that you were man enough to confirm, or deny, that you
have been complaining to ISPs?



Regards


Donal
--

Sorry Donal, but I have a firm policy about confirming or denying
allegations made by fruitloops.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"JG" wrote in message
...
Why are you being a jerk? Oh, I know. You have a serious personality
disorder. Sorry.

Jon, I think that you forgot to "confirm or deny" Mooron's allegation.

Personality disorders are a big advantage on ASA.


Isn't it about time that you were man enough to confirm, or deny, that you
have been complaining to ISPs?



Regards


Donal
--

"JG" wrote in message
...
Sorry Donal, but I have a firm policy about confirming or denying
allegations made by fruitloops.


I think that you have made abuse complaints. Do yo think that I am a
"fruitloop"?


Regards


Donal
--

Not at all. You're welcome to believe what you want to believe. No objection
here. Do you believe that Neal complainted to SuperNews about me?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"JG" wrote in message
...
Sorry Donal, but I have a firm policy about confirming or denying
allegations made by fruitloops.


I think that you have made abuse complaints. Do yo think that I am a
"fruitloop"?


Regards


Donal
--

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

Top-posted to annoy the flonkers.....

Yeah, I ignored most of it. I kf'ed Jon a while ago, the filter should
expire soon, we'll see if the content has improved. In hindsight I
coulda put in a filter to kill your 'HOMO' posts but what the hey,
that's marginally harder than I can generally be bothered with.

Don't hold your breath..... it's been proven that any attempt to teach a
pig to sing results in failure.



I had a nice break away from it all, saw some new icebergs, a couple
new (to me) whale species and a chinstrap penguin a long way from where
he should be. Managed to swipe a floe with a sleeping leopard seal on
it and ruin his day so badly there were stains on the ice as he left
:-) I can't really take asa at all seriously and I don't much care.
It's entertainment. When a thread gets boring - ignore. Ditto for
people who simply can't keep up.

Sounds like an excellent trip. I'd love to get to the Antarctic someday. I
understand the Leopard Seal is the top predator in the Antarctic... can you
clarify that?


Hope you get to splash Overproof soon. I've been sailing Patanela D
every second day or so since I got back.

Overproof will probably see the ocean in May. That clip provided by Ganz on
another post was very entertaining.... it's amazing to see a vessel
flounder in such a mild wave. It's indicative of the lack of talent and
ability of sailors in his area.

Double the size of the wave and you have the Gull Rocks at the mouth of my
bay with breaking seas..... my double ender surfs that with no problem.

PDW

In article OvV3e.166159$fc4.13772@edtnps89, Capt. Mooron
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

Ummm, Moron - the postings Thom was referring to were those repetitive,
boring, content-free ones lacking it life, wit, humour or any trace of
originality whereby you just called Jon a HOMO for post after boring
post after boring post after boring post after ......
ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz

Heh.. Look... Ganz had been at it for months. I fiqured it was time he
was
subjected to the same bland repetative regieme. I admit... and stated as
much that it was like playing "Whack the Gopher" at a fair.... only
difference being the gopher was frothing more each time it popped up. I
had
no problem with it since I was not employed at the time and had sufficent
time on my hands to persue this objective. I posted sailing related
content
as well as some replies to off topic threads during that time. Look
Peter...
when I am not interested in following a prolonged disscussion between
Doug
and Dave of investments and social security ... I just select and delete
the
thread.... or ignore their posts.

Thom could have employed a killfile as could everyone else. I suggested
it
to anyone that had a concern. You have, as explained... several options
at
your disposal... a kill file or the choice of ignoring the post and the
option of reply. I even assured that I would include a word in every
reply
to Jon that could have been entered in a kill file message "if content
contains" for those of which cared to follow my other posts while
avoiding
my trouncing of Ganz.

My primary objection is that this involved nobody but Ganz and myself.
Thom
decided to involve himself of his own free will. Not only did he take the
liberty and attitude that his opinion was of merit to me or not... he
attacked me in the process. Now he seems surprised that I've taken this
in a
negative manner????

Don't take it as an attempt to be your conscience. Take it as a
critique on style.

Critique on style ? I admitted no "style" was involved in those
posts....
on many occasions. I consider advice but I question direction. I do not
consider mutual respect to be asking too much. Had I attacked Thom as
Ganz
had on several occassions ... then I could have understood his actions.
Thom
seems to have the mistaken belief that he is the adjudicator of disputes
and
enforcer of posting content.
As it is... I have made it clear to Thom that his manner of appraoch has
clarified his opinion of me. I owe him no consideration nor compliance.
Respect is earned and age does not give carte blanche to such
considerations.

Think about it... if Thom had approached me as you have here... I would
have
been much more receptive to his concerns....

CM

You have no idea of the level of skill required to sail in SF area,
especially the north bay. It is not quite true that if you can sail here,
you can sail anywhere, but it's almost true.

We sail pretty much all year here, except during major storms. (100 mph has
been recorded on Angel Island during a storm.) The current, tides, and
traffic (from tankers to kayaks) make for uninterrupted variation from day
to day.

I have no doubt that your much larger double ender wouldn't have a problem
with waves like these or larger. The person in question was on a much
smaller boat. I doubt you would do as well in the same conditions on the
same boat. Sure, he screwed up by sailing there in the first place, but at
least he gets out and sails.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:mKG4e.3873$vt1.1415@edtnps90...

Overproof will probably see the ocean in May. That clip provided by Ganz
on another post was very entertaining.... it's amazing to see a vessel
flounder in such a mild wave. It's indicative of the lack of talent and
ability of sailors in his area.

Double the size of the wave and you have the Gull Rocks at the mouth of my
bay with breaking seas..... my double ender surfs that with no problem.

"JG" wrote in message ...
Not at all. You're welcome to believe what you want to believe. No objection
here. Do you believe that Neal complainted to SuperNews about me?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


So upset about it that he cannot even spell . . . complainted???

Ask yourself, are rapists in prison raped?

Are netKKKops in society netKKKopped?

CN

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:mKG4e.3873$vt1.1415@edtnps90...

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

Top-posted to annoy the flonkers.....

Yeah, I ignored most of it. I kf'ed Jon a while ago, the filter should
expire soon, we'll see if the content has improved. In hindsight I
coulda put in a filter to kill your 'HOMO' posts but what the hey,
that's marginally harder than I can generally be bothered with.

Don't hold your breath..... it's been proven that any attempt to teach a
pig to sing results in failure.



I had a nice break away from it all, saw some new icebergs, a couple
new (to me) whale species and a chinstrap penguin a long way from where
he should be. Managed to swipe a floe with a sleeping leopard seal on
it and ruin his day so badly there were stains on the ice as he left
:-) I can't really take asa at all seriously and I don't much care.
It's entertainment. When a thread gets boring - ignore. Ditto for
people who simply can't keep up.

Sounds like an excellent trip. I'd love to get to the Antarctic someday. I
understand the Leopard Seal is the top predator in the Antarctic... can you
clarify that?


Don't tell that to the Orca . . .

CN

In article , Flying Tadpole
wrote:

Peter Wiley wrote:
In article , Flying Tadpole
wrote:

No, not what I meant. Leeboards will _still_ give you some
lateral plane (also tunnel effects) at the point where you have
your c/b all the way up and there's only 1cm of water under your
keel. Similarly, a kick-up rudder will too (not a spade rudder,
the kickup has to rotate). Pity about where the centre of effort
shifts in relation to the centre of resistance, but what the
hey--even with the lee helm you've still got a chance of sailing
out with leeboards. (all learnt from bitter experience with the
original Flying Tadpole--although she had a 12ft large-bladed
steering oar and could always be sculled out of trouble)

Fitting leeboards would be a PITA given the hull shape. The rudder is a
kick-up one and gives a lotta leverage when the big blade is training
behind.

Gonna haul this afternoon. I've
decided the bowsprit was a good idea but now there's too much lee helm.
I'll make a new mast base about a foot back and then make a new set of
stays & shrouds to suit. I never did like the existing chainplates
anyway, and I have a huge supply of scrap. Sometimes I think I took up
boats to finally have a hobby where I'd never run out of things to do,
things to change, things to repair and tools to play with while doing
it. The sailing side is pretty cool, too.

You _could_ have rigged unstayed, it would be saner if less
weatherly for such a craft.

I've thought of that. Might do it. Problem with the orig design is, the
mast is deck stepped on a small foredeck so sans stays, it'd fall over.
If I move it back and build a nice welded alum base for it, I might
make a tabernackle setup & then an unstayed rig might be practical.
Drilling a couple holes thru the mast low down & TIG welding in some
bushes for a pivot bolt & locking bolt is pretty simple. A single junk
sail could be cheap & fun at that point.

Might build an elongated Buehler Pogo next, just for fun. Gaff schooner
rig. I have a Yanmar 3HP diesel engine with g/box that needs a boat.

Ah. I retract my previous statement. Nothing wrong with your
sanity index.

I've got the plans, the engine & the inclination. All I lack is the
space & time, and as soon as council approves my barn plans, space will
be forthcoming. As for time........ I've thought of loading a couple
extra 20' containers aboard when I do another deep south winter cruise.
2-3 months in a polynya in winter gives you a lot of time to build
stuff coz there ain't much point in spending long outside. No rush.

A Pogo on the D'Entrecausteaux Channel would be great. It really is a
wonderful place to poke about in boats.

PDW

In article , DSK
wrote:

I have a couple of paddles. They were cheap. They are of marginal use
if you're by yourself. Gotta get some oars which means (re)fitting the
rowlocks. Dunno how I'll go with them, tho, given the restricted range
of movement in the arm. Only one way to find out.


Rowing can be very therapeutic. Remember to take it easy at first,
that's the difficult part. I tend to get all wound up and pull like hell
then suffer later.

This boat had rowlocks on it but the wood was all rotten, so when I
stripped it back, they went. Only take me a few hours to replace them.
It's on the job list.

Gonna haul this afternoon. I've
decided the bowsprit was a good idea but now there's too much lee helm.
I'll make a new mast base about a foot back and then make a new set of
stays & shrouds to suit. I never did like the existing chainplates
anyway, and I have a huge supply of scrap.

Keep in mind this is going to change the sheeting geometry. A foot is a
lot! You sure you don't want to trial it at a bit less? How far back
have you raked the mast? This will give you a good way to measure how
far back to move the CE.

It's a PITA. The existing stays were cut to exact length by the PO so
you can't adjust rake without cutting them, adding turnbuckles etc etc.
By the time you do all that, might as well make a new spot to put the
mast too. Moving the mast aft to the fwd thwart is the next good strong
point to feed thrust to the keel; I rebuilt all the woodwork so I know
it'll handle any load likely to be inflicted on it. I might be able to
do less than a foot, haven't really measured it yet. The boat is now
next to the shop ready for work, I hauled it last night on the high
tide. Having a waterfront makes things simple. I built my own beach
launching ramp.

Ah. I retract my previous statement. Nothing wrong with your sanity index.


I guess all is relative ;)

http://www.georgebuehler.com/pogo.html

Looks like a fun boat, but it's a lot heavier than FT2.

Yeah, George says it's a minature displacement sailboat not a dinghy.
Pretty simple to build IMO. I've had the plans for 2-3 years, promised
to build one for my youngest daughter. It won't go fast but it probably
won't drown her either, and you could go fishing from it easily. Nobody
is going to worry overmuch if you run aground, bounce off the odd
oyster covered rock etc etc. Pretty cheap to build too, so if/when you
don't want to play with it any more, you can pass it on to someone else
to play with cheaply or even for free.

PDW