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Scott Vernon March 16th 05 12:07 AM


"Donal" wrote in message
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You are not allowed to drink it until you put up your mast.


just one?





Scott Vernon March 16th 05 12:10 AM

"Donal" wrote
I'll buy ya two, since that cheapskate Irishman wouldn't.


Two of your's would contain less alcohol than the one that I

wouldn't buy!

Your beer is absolute rubbish. What the hell is the point in being

a
superpower, if you have such crap beer?


Beer? Donut, I'm a sailor. When I *sail* down to Haggy's it's with a
bottle of rum.

You are so uncouth.

Scotty



Capt. Mooron March 16th 05 12:26 AM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message
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You are not allowed to drink it until you put up your mast.


just one?


He's a Brit in Irish clothing.... it only takes one beer for Donal to get
drunk!

CM



Thom Stewart March 16th 05 02:21 AM

I do believe that Hunter has a "Scoop Stern" Stern loading would be
easier

Ole Thom


Jonathan Ganz March 16th 05 07:18 AM

Woooo... you're stupid.

In article PmtZd.31483$i6.22125@edtnps90,
Capt. Mooron wrote:
Wooooooo.... Stalker!

CM

"JG" wrote in message
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Mooron tries it every where and knows what happens... all the buff guys
want some, but he's dedicated to his chickens.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Silver March 16th 05 01:07 PM

What you are missing is windage aft to counteract your bow windage at low revs and reduced rudder effect.

Any extra windage abaft the centre of effort will help. One surprisingly efficient trick is to set a small sail (an old dinghy jib would do) on the backstay when you want to back in the conditions you describe. You can use the topping lift if you have a rigid boom strut or any other spare halyard - set doesn't matter.

Let it flap until you want to turn, then haul it to weather. It will spin you round into the wind quite easily and you have perfect control according to the amount of weight you put on the sheet (you only need one) When you want to stop turning, let fly and drop the sail at your leisure. A little practice in open water helps, as this is a powerful way to turn the boat. Give it a try.

Seahag March 16th 05 03:33 PM


"Donal" wrote:

"Seahag" wrote :

Ah ha hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You two owe me a beer!


I've sent a pint of Guinness in the post. It should reach you next
Tuesday!

You are not allowed to drink it until you put up your mast.


We were gonna do our taxes this weekend, but I guess we'll just have to put
the sticks up instead!

Seahag



Joe March 16th 05 05:01 PM


Donal wrote:

I've sent a pint of Guinness in the post. It should reach you next
Tuesday!

You are not allowed to drink it until you put up your mast.




Good for you Donal. Perhaps you can set an example to some here that
feel no honor is lost in not paying off on his bets.


Joe




Regards


Donal
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Martin Baxter March 16th 05 05:26 PM

Seahag wrote:



We were gonna do our taxes this weekend, but I guess we'll just have to put
the sticks up instead!


Holy Smokes! Max was right, the world has gone of its' axis! Imagine Haggie with spars!


Cheers
Marty


Capt. Mooron March 16th 05 06:19 PM

Yeah well the idea has merit... I use a triangular piece of blue poly tarp
.... cut, sewn and grommeted to fit on the split of my backstay while at the
mooring at times. Keeps tension on the mooring lines, keeps the boat from
dancing, and offers a bit of privacy as well. I only use it when the wind
is shifty since my boat isn't prone to swing much on a mooring anyway.

Never entered my mind to use it to keep the bow to the wind under
manuever... but I'll try it this year.

CM


"Silver" wrote in message
...

What you are missing is windage aft to counteract your bow windage at
low revs and reduced rudder effect.

Any extra windage abaft the centre of effort will help. One
surprisingly efficient trick is to set a small sail (an old dinghy jib
would do) on the backstay when you want to back in the conditions you
describe. You can use the topping lift if you have a rigid boom strut
or any other spare halyard - set doesn't matter.

Let it flap until you want to turn, then haul it to weather. It will
spin you round into the wind quite easily and you have perfect control
according to the amount of weight you put on the sheet (you only need
one) When you want to stop turning, let fly and drop the sail at your
leisure. A little practice in open water helps, as this is a powerful
way to turn the boat. Give it a try.


--
Silver





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